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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
October 03 2012 16:32 GMT
#23041
On October 04 2012 01:26 Qbek wrote:
Yeah the basics can be taught pretty easily but the tutorial would have to take 3 hours to put all the info with suitable demonstrations and other stuff. Now, how many of those scrubs that don't know about last hitting and denying will go through such a tutorial? Making it mandatory is not an option really, too many vets out there. Ofc you can make it shorter, but the shorter it is the worse it gets. Anyway, maybe it will be decent but it will be really hard to do, none of the other games of the genre did it right last time I checked

Making the tutorials mandatory and take ~3 hours might be a semi-decent way to stop griefers spamming new accounts when the game becomes f2p.
Road to 6sange
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
October 03 2012 16:33 GMT
#23042
New player here, can someone tell me how to look up a particular match using the match ID?

The match id is 45562938 but I have no idea how to watch it, sounds like fun though as it's Dendi playing Meepo :D
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
October 03 2012 16:33 GMT
#23043
On October 04 2012 01:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
So a friend of mine enjoys making movies and decided to make a montage of Invoker clips from a week's worth of games to help promote my stream. I thought it was pretty well done :D





That video makes me want to pick up Invoker. I usually play mid so I guess it's about time that I learn him, yeah?
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
October 03 2012 16:34 GMT
#23044
For you NA people please just watch it.


It's Na'Vi vs coL. We need to show that DotA2 is the future of eSports and we can start with this. I know for Asia/EU is a bad timing but show them some love.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
October 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#23045
On October 04 2012 01:34 duoform wrote:
For you NA people please just watch it. https://twitter.com/MLG/status/253513211767320576

It's Na'Vi vs coL. We need to show that DotA2 is the future of eSports and we can start with this. I know for Asia/EU is a bad timing but show them some love.


Purge's casting it!? I haven't seen him cast anything in a long time, I'll be sure to tune in ^_^
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 03 2012 16:37 GMT
#23046
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 03 2012 16:37 GMT
#23047
On October 04 2012 01:10 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I actually think having the delay makes the game easier to play. Because of it I am able to cancel attacks/spells that I would normally not want to cast. I don't think that's too hard for new players to understand. When I tried league of legends for the first time, it was frustrating that I could not stop my spells once I had activated them. It adds depth.

If i couldn't cancel hooks as pudge i would be a sad pudge against heroes with fast turn-rates.

But yea i laugh at how many people still talk about the input delay which was fixed ages ago, and then refuse to accept the thing that turn-rates, cast animations and attack animations are all intentional.
If a sandking stuns behind a sven the sven has to turn around to stun, making sand king get off his ulti, if there was no turn-rate sven would just turn around instantly and stun sand king before the channeling was over.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 16:38 GMT
#23048
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 16:40 GMT
#23049
On October 04 2012 01:37 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:10 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I actually think having the delay makes the game easier to play. Because of it I am able to cancel attacks/spells that I would normally not want to cast. I don't think that's too hard for new players to understand. When I tried league of legends for the first time, it was frustrating that I could not stop my spells once I had activated them. It adds depth.

If i couldn't cancel hooks as pudge i would be a sad pudge against heroes with fast turn-rates.

But yea i laugh at how many people still talk about the input delay which was fixed ages ago, and then refuse to accept the thing that turn-rates, cast animations and attack animations are all intentional.
If a sandking stuns behind a sven the sven has to turn around to stun, making sand king get off his ulti, if there was no turn-rate sven would just turn around instantly and stun sand king before the channeling was over.

Or an earthshaker being unable to cast any spells when there's a clockwerk near him with dem MINISTUNZ (same for jakiro and now leshrac)
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:41:33
October 03 2012 16:40 GMT
#23050
On October 04 2012 01:26 Qbek wrote:
Yeah the basics can be taught pretty easily but the tutorial would have to take 3 hours to put all the info with suitable demonstrations and other stuff. Now, how many of those scrubs that don't know about last hitting and denying will go through such a tutorial? Making it mandatory is not an option really, too many vets out there. Ofc you can make it shorter, but the shorter it is the worse it gets. Anyway, maybe it will be decent but it will be really hard to do, none of the other games of the genre did it right last time I checked

Actually, making it mandatory would be good, having to go through it once for every new steam account starts the game. They can easily break it into small 5-10 min segments, so you can do some assignments now and others at a later time. Good players would should be able to finish them fast, and you should only have to go through the tutorial just one time, unless you want to smurf a lot. Think about it, pro players only need like one extra account for private practice (and if they need more I'm sure Valve would not mind helping them skip that part). Only other reason for a ton of alternate accounts is to stomp players worse than you and you want to limit that as much as possible.

Edit: wow, I'm slow
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:42:10
October 03 2012 16:41 GMT
#23051
On October 04 2012 01:34 duoform wrote:
For you NA people please just watch it. https://twitter.com/MLG/status/253513211767320576

It's Na'Vi vs coL. We need to show that DotA2 is the future of eSports and we can start with this. I know for Asia/EU is a bad timing but show them some love.

I was going to check it out, right until i realized who the caster was.
Maybe if i can watch it ingame.

Can anyone confirm if we can watch it ingame?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
October 03 2012 16:41 GMT
#23052
On October 04 2012 01:33 Floydian wrote:
New player here, can someone tell me how to look up a particular match using the match ID?

The match id is 45562938 but I have no idea how to watch it, sounds like fun though as it's Dendi playing Meepo :D

One way is to open dota and click watch->recent games->filter->type match id in search bar and the click the replay and click reveal winner (or something like that) and then click download replay, and watch replay should become an option once you've finished downloading it.

Another way is to open dotabuff.com in the steam web browser and type the match id in the search field then click watch replay in the top rightish area.
Road to 6sange
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:59:35
October 03 2012 16:43 GMT
#23053
On October 04 2012 01:38 Qbek wrote:
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic

MLG said they will post a VOD tomorrow. Also how is it 2am in Poland, it's 2am in Australia?
Road to 6sange
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 03 2012 16:43 GMT
#23054
On October 04 2012 01:41 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:33 Floydian wrote:
New player here, can someone tell me how to look up a particular match using the match ID?

The match id is 45562938 but I have no idea how to watch it, sounds like fun though as it's Dendi playing Meepo :D

One way is to open dota and click watch->recent games->filter->type match id in search bar and the click the replay and click reveal winner (or something like that) and then click download replay, and watch replay should become an option once you've finished downloading it.

Another way is to open dotabuff.com in the steam web browser and type the match id in the search field then click watch replay in the top rightish area.


https://dotabuff.com/matches/45562938
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 16:45 GMT
#23055
On October 04 2012 01:43 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:38 Qbek wrote:
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic

MLG said they will post a VOD tomorrow. Also how is it 2am in Poland, it's 2am in Australia?

ET isn't the same as EDT? Coz it would be 1am here if it's 7pm EDT, my math failed me, as usual
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:47:45
October 03 2012 16:47 GMT
#23056
nvm
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
October 03 2012 16:49 GMT
#23057
On October 04 2012 01:43 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:38 Qbek wrote:
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic

MLG said they will post a VOD tomorrow. Also how is it 2am in Poland, it's 2am in Australia?

Either way, putting a match on a Patch day where everyone is waiting for 6.75 + new heroes and at such a bad time for EU it's a mistake for MLG. I don't know if they really care about viewers (of course they do) but they should at least in DotA2. Also pick Ayesee as the caster.

If they would put it at like 10 or 11 CEST they would have at least more 5,000 viewers. Russian fans never disappoint and watch the stream even if it's not HD or Russian caster casting the game. And again, it's Na'Vi!
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 16:50 GMT
#23058
On October 04 2012 01:49 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:43 tauon wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:38 Qbek wrote:
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic

MLG said they will post a VOD tomorrow. Also how is it 2am in Poland, it's 2am in Australia?

Either way, putting a match on a Patch day where everyone is waiting for 6.75 + new heroes and at such a bad time for EU it's a mistake for MLG. I don't know if they really care about viewers (of course they do) but they should at least in DotA2. Also pick Ayesee as the caster.

If they would put it at like 10 or 11 CEST they would have at least more 5,000 viewers. Russian fans never disappoint and watch the stream even if it's not HD or Russian caster casting the game. And again, it's Na'Vi!

They're obviously testing us.
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 03 2012 16:58 GMT
#23059
Just posted by Navi. It's hilarious:

duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
October 03 2012 17:01 GMT
#23060
On October 04 2012 01:50 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:49 duoform wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:43 tauon wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:38 Qbek wrote:
Lol it's like 2am here xD
But if someone links a vod later(or maybe I will) I'll sure watch it to give it some traffic

MLG said they will post a VOD tomorrow. Also how is it 2am in Poland, it's 2am in Australia?

Either way, putting a match on a Patch day where everyone is waiting for 6.75 + new heroes and at such a bad time for EU it's a mistake for MLG. I don't know if they really care about viewers (of course they do) but they should at least in DotA2. Also pick Ayesee as the caster.

If they would put it at like 10 or 11 CEST they would have at least more 5,000 viewers. Russian fans never disappoint and watch the stream even if it's not HD or Russian caster casting the game. And again, it's Na'Vi!

They're obviously testing us.


But they know that they will not get € to the HD or even viewers. I go to work at 7pm. Even if I want to watch it's impossible for me and many many others. If they want viewers or € I recommend them to push the schedule time at least 3 or 4 hours earlier. I would even pay for HD if that even happens...
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