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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 20 2012 11:32 heyoka wrote: Honestly I doubt very few people at Valve did much work on Dota that week given how burned out they must have been after the tournament, making it more impressive. Really, they give their development team the time of the international off? That's news to me... Maybe it's understandable then. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
Valve don't have a "development team" or a "production team". They just employ people whose skills are wanted and let them find where they are most valuable. As such, many of them would be working on the international, which meant afterwards they were burnt out. And over the course of the international, they weren't working on developing the game, they were developing the tourney. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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mathiaszhu
5 Posts
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
Second time we are getting spam, is Teamliquid dota2 general really that big for spammers? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 20 2012 14:21 Shikyo wrote: Really, they give their development team the time of the international off? That's news to me... Maybe it's understandable then. Did you not notice in the various event videos where the entire event was basically run by Valve staff? They didn't materialize a bunch of extra staff to run the event out of thin air. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 20 2012 14:28 LAN-f34r wrote: How the hell did you even read that out of it? Valve don't have a "development team" or a "production team". They just employ people whose skills are wanted and let them find where they are most valuable. As such, many of them would be working on the international, which meant afterwards they were burnt out. And over the course of the international, they weren't working on developing the game, they were developing the tourney. Right, so a skilled programmer is probably most valuable as a programmer. As such it'd make much more sense to me to, for instance, hire specific tournament organizer-people or even use volunteers for it while the programmers program but I guess I'm wrong. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:38 Shikyo wrote: Right, so a skilled programmer is probably most valuable as a programmer. As such it'd make much more sense to me to, for instance, hire specific tournament organizer-people or even use volunteers for it while the programmers program but I guess I'm wrong. Why do you have a knack for stirring up so much controversy? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:38 Shikyo wrote: Right, so a skilled programmer is probably most valuable as a programmer. As such it'd make much more sense to me to, for instance, hire specific tournament organizer-people or even use volunteers for it while the programmers program but I guess I'm wrong. I can say that it's not completely uncommon for software development companies to use their staff to run high profile events like this rather than contracting outside organizations/volunteers to do this. Using staff to run the event gives you more direct control over making sure that nothing goes wrong while at the same time making sure that the event is being staffed by people who know their way around the game. Losing some development time due to using your programmers to run the event is worth avoiding the risk of creating a PR fiasco if some volunteer who you have no real control over screws something up for your tournament. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 20 2012 15:38 Shikyo wrote: Right, so a skilled programmer is probably most valuable as a programmer. As such it'd make much more sense to me to, for instance, hire specific tournament organizer-people or even use volunteers for it while the programmers program but I guess I'm wrong. From the interviews of people who were involved ( 2gd,luminous,purge,players,etc) it was very clear that Valve people were actually very deeply involved in the whole tournament. Each teams were assigned one Valve staff etc. Valve actually hired professional TV crew and event organizers to help but Valve ended up still being very hands-on and have their input on everything especially on things that they think need perfecting. I think that is the reason why TI2 was so good. It was run by people who were knowledgeable about Dota 2 and are actually passionate about the scene. You won't get the same dedication and knowledge from volunteers. A programmer isn't necessarily just a programmer. He can be like Icefrog or Zoid and be very knowledgeable and helpful And I think it's a good thing that they are fans of their own game and the scene who participate in every way. Also, don't judge progress by just heroes released and patch notes. There are a lot of hidden contents in each patch that are not readily apparent. In this patch, there are some particles of centaur and magnataur and also what looks like to be a progress in the tutorial system. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
got to release Dusa tho. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:05 Spicy_Curry wrote: I feel like alot of people are going to be shocked that we get heroes every 4-6 months instead of every 2 days. I talked to a friend who plays LoL today who was shocked at the fact that heroes sometimes don't go into -CM until 1.5-2 years after their release (Thrall/Wisp were added in 6.68, which came out in like ~August 2010, and were added to -CM in 6.74 at the beginning of this year). Also, wtf @ the modified Rosh pit/Scourge ancients location in this supposedly leaked 6.75 beta. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:16 TheYango wrote: I talked to a friend who plays LoL today who was shocked at the fact that heroes sometimes don't go into -CM until 1.5-2 years after their release (Thrall/Wisp were added in 6.68, which came out in like ~August 2010, and were added to -CM in 6.74 at the beginning of this year). Also, wtf @ the modified Rosh pit/Scourge ancients location in this supposedly leaked 6.75 beta. I thought our resident 5s said it was fake. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:33 Spicy_Curry wrote: I thought our resident 5s said it was fake. I thought this one was different, seeing as it doesn't have some of the changes that were in the other "fake" one. Could still be a fake though, which is why I prefaced what I said with "supposedly". Actually, looking at the old one that got linked before, these are probably too similar for this one to be real. Guess I should just wait instead of rumormongering. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On September 20 2012 16:35 TheYango wrote: I thought this one was different, seeing as it doesn't have some of the changes that were in the other "fake" one. Could still be a fake though, which is why I prefaced what I said with "supposedly". Actually, looking at the old one that got linked before, these are probably too similar for this one to be real. Guess I should just wait instead of rumormongering. Its ok. We should get 6.75 in a few weeks. It might be a LONG time for dota 2 though, especially if the map changes.The version might be fake but I feel like we are still open to discuss the position of roshan currently and the position it was on the "leaked image." Personally, I feel like he was positioned a bit further from the closest scourge tower but it still doesnt really fix the problem. Heroes that are good at engaging in that position would probably get even better with the narrow choke points. Also, The opening to his cave is extremely awkward and it really looks like he would need to add another ramp going down from the common ward spot near the medium camp of the radiant jungle to make something like that work. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On September 20 2012 11:02 Erasme wrote: cyborgmatt is such a troll. And kudos to the guy who guessed right. Meepo with aghas. Didn't everyone guess Meepo with Aghs when CyborgMatt said 5 heroes? XD | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On September 20 2012 17:25 ChrisXIV wrote: Didn't everyone guess Meepo with Aghs when CyborgMatt said 5 heroes? XD It was quite obvious, really  | ||
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Tryxtira
Sweden572 Posts
None the less, it was some nice trolling! | ||
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