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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 19 2012 22:49 GMT
#21321
The bars make no sense to me at all. I have no idea what it is, but I doubt it's KDA, cause I feel like my KDA isn't that great on some of my heroes with high bars, and the opposite for low bars.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#21322
On September 20 2012 07:40 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 07:36 Bash wrote:
It's definitely not KDA, my top 2 heroes are Chen and Rubick when I mostly play solomid. It's probably just a variation on their matchmaking algorithm.


What does that have to do with anything. The KDA you get on those two heroes is better in comparision to other people who play those heroes at around your matchmaking level.

Like, going 15/0 on invoker isn't THAT impressive, and probably won't make your performance go up by that much, while going 15/0 on CM will probably make it fill up instantly.


I'm not so sure it's KDA. I believe at my level, most people suck at killing with ench, but are good at killing with ursa.
However, for me its the other way around. My KA/D with ench is waaay higher than my KA/D with ursa. And yet the performance bar of my ench is shit compared to ursa.

So either enchantress does a LOT better than ursa in pubs, or kda's impact is questionable.
Hell, dotabuff says the most kills I've ever gotten in a game were on my ench. And yet my performance bar is 2/5, and every single pub ench I've seen fails miserably.
Come to think of it, my gpm/xpm on my ench are pretty good too.. not sure why it's not reflected in my performance bar.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
September 19 2012 23:21 GMT
#21323
I've heard of people saying accuracy of skills used, timing between more than 1 skill, and other random things that affect the performance bar. I think there are a ton of factors included that people have not posted about so far.

From my experience, not being based solely on K/D/A makes sense because I usually don't land that many in these fields but I have a few heroes that are 4+ bars.

Also again, please don't blindly compare as the tooltip states that it measures based on your skill level.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#21324
Oh man in pub matchmaking I just had a team of 5 relatively skilled players who worked as a team and had ds/naga/tide/disruptor/maiden composition. Ended the game at ~30 minutes with something like 56 to 11.

So fun to play when everybody works together.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#21325
Did the cm get ulti early? I knew I would if i was the cm!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2012 00:20 GMT
#21326
On September 20 2012 08:21 blahz0r wrote:
I've heard of people saying accuracy of skills used, timing between more than 1 skill, and other random things that affect the performance bar. I think there are a ton of factors included that people have not posted about so far.

From my experience, not being based solely on K/D/A makes sense because I usually don't land that many in these fields but I have a few heroes that are 4+ bars.

Also again, please don't blindly compare as the tooltip states that it measures based on your skill level.

yeah.....my bar seemingly has no relevance on what i would call "skill" on my heroes. My "best hero" judging by compliments and wins has been veng.....but my veng is 3 bars. My zeus is pretty effective, but not exactly superb, and I have 4 bars. My best w/l ratio is mirana...rocking out at 2.5 bars. I do terrible at WR, despite playing her a decent bit, and I'm rocking a ~3.9 bar on her. My best hero IS my highest rated though. My sand king is pretty pro, with a good number of games played, a solid win percentage, and is rated just above my zeus. I would think it would be higher though.....I rarely fail ultis, and have multiple carry sk games with stupid 15-0 scores and the like. But it sits right above my zeus, which, while I have had good games with him, he's not exactly a high skill hero, and i've had some pretty spectacular fail games with him(forced to go side lane...feeding).
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 00:31:00
September 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#21327
On September 20 2012 09:20 YODA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 08:21 blahz0r wrote:
I've heard of people saying accuracy of skills used, timing between more than 1 skill, and other random things that affect the performance bar. I think there are a ton of factors included that people have not posted about so far.

From my experience, not being based solely on K/D/A makes sense because I usually don't land that many in these fields but I have a few heroes that are 4+ bars.

Also again, please don't blindly compare as the tooltip states that it measures based on your skill level.

yeah.....my bar seemingly has no relevance on what i would call "skill" on my heroes. My "best hero" judging by compliments and wins has been veng.....but my veng is 3 bars. My zeus is pretty effective, but not exactly superb, and I have 4 bars. My best w/l ratio is mirana...rocking out at 2.5 bars. I do terrible at WR, despite playing her a decent bit, and I'm rocking a ~3.9 bar on her. My best hero IS my highest rated though. My sand king is pretty pro, with a good number of games played, a solid win percentage, and is rated just above my zeus. I would think it would be higher though.....I rarely fail ultis, and have multiple carry sk games with stupid 15-0 scores and the like. But it sits right above my zeus, which, while I have had good games with him, he's not exactly a high skill hero, and i've had some pretty spectacular fail games with him(forced to go side lane...feeding).


My 1 win 4 loss AA is my second most skilled hero. (I many other heroes with higher win/loss.)
FADC
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#21328
It's Meepo T_T

Just...Meepo, no other heroes.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 20 2012 00:39 GMT
#21329
FIVE NEW HEROES
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 20 2012 00:40 GMT
#21330
well seems like a good time to retire from pub mm for a few days
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 20 2012 00:41 GMT
#21331
^
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 20 2012 00:42 GMT
#21332
On September 20 2012 09:40 FinestHour wrote:
well seems like a good time to retire from pub mm for a few days

mmmmm
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
September 20 2012 00:44 GMT
#21333
Scary times ahead I tell you, scary times.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
September 20 2012 00:47 GMT
#21334
On September 20 2012 09:31 ChrisXIV wrote:
It's Meepo T_T

Just...Meepo, no other heroes.


Source?

Someone? ANYONE? PLEASEEEEE?
Skol
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 20 2012 00:48 GMT
#21335
On September 20 2012 06:58 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
On September 19 2012 15:40 rwrzr wrote:
On September 19 2012 15:15 FinestHour wrote:
[image loading]

templar assassin is my go to hero to beat professional players and their five man stacks, im very solid with the hero if you want any tips right here

i picked on bumblebee a little sorry breh love you


TA Guide INCOMING?!!?!?


hmm im actually really tempted to do that...got plenty of replays against pros to make it all sexy and beefy too maybe...


*COUGH* TA GUIDE preez


im gonna be busy going to LA tomorrow for the weekend but ill try to get it up within a week, wont let you down~
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 20 2012 00:48 GMT
#21336
On September 20 2012 09:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 09:31 ChrisXIV wrote:
It's Meepo T_T

Just...Meepo, no other heroes.


Source?

Someone? ANYONE? PLEASEEEEE?

ttp://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=55331
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 00:51:05
September 20 2012 00:49 GMT
#21337
On September 20 2012 06:26 BurningSera wrote:
yup tide hardlane is awesome. Most people just try to kill him so they go over aggressive on him and get anchorsmashed to death. Passive laning however can hurt tide really hard in lvl and gold (well, almost the same for all hardlane hero but tide cant even go gank).

I recommend the shark hat for tidehunter, he looks so cool with that hat!

Also, today mm god has been kind to me, won like 6/7 games in a row (there is one lost game in between but it was a 6mins leaver game). Not going to touch the damn mm until tomorrow evening again, while i'll probably play some TL2 tonight, so excited!!

AND YOU CAN COMBINE THE SHARK BACK WITH THE OCTOPUS HAT

BEST ITEMS OUT THERE!!!!111oneeleven


Edit:
- Reduced opposing-team pause resume time down to 5 seconds (from 30 seconds).

WAT. T_T
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 20 2012 00:51 GMT
#21338
Just realized playing on random draft and single draft is much better.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
September 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#21339
Disappointed for only meepo, but no worries.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 20 2012 01:03 GMT
#21340
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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