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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#21301
On September 18 2012 10:40 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:33 BurningSera wrote:
wait i thought all ulti can still kill courier?

Meanwhile Solace from PB rq against sing :S

I don't think it's Solace himself. When Sing2x checked his Dota profile, he didn't have any clan logos on it. So either PB doesn't have clan logos yet but more obscure teams do (can someone check it out?), or that guy is a fake.


aui has said on stream like 100x that Solace isn't in PB. He is a friend to the crew and will join to scrim from time to time but he is not a team member.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 19:46:51
September 19 2012 19:45 GMT
#21302
Got the SK in my game that was playing singsing (when he was playing TA and sing was like omg this sk is good) the other day :o. My mmr must be higher than I thought.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
September 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#21303
I'm falling in love with Tidehunter and hard lane.Think I might stick to that for a while, haven't been having much fun jungling or trying to support other people thus far. With less than 25 games no one knows how to farm so its sad watching your lane buddy miss practically every CS. Tidehunter 4 lyfe.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 19 2012 21:25 GMT
#21304
WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND KUNKKA FIRST
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 21:35:23
September 19 2012 21:26 GMT
#21305
yup tide hardlane is awesome. Most people just try to kill him so they go over aggressive on him and get anchorsmashed to death. Passive laning however can hurt tide really hard in lvl and gold (well, almost the same for all hardlane hero but tide cant even go gank).

I recommend the shark hat for tidehunter, he looks so cool with that hat!

Also, today mm god has been kind to me, won like 6/7 games in a row (there is one lost game in between but it was a 6mins leaver game). Not going to touch the damn mm until tomorrow evening again, while i'll probably play some TL2 tonight, so excited!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
September 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#21306
Finally got promoted to very high tier lately. Got 3 wins, 3 losses in 6 games, all very fought and well played. No one ever whined, map was never black, tears were shed.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#21307
On September 19 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 15:40 rwrzr wrote:
On September 19 2012 15:15 FinestHour wrote:
[image loading]

templar assassin is my go to hero to beat professional players and their five man stacks, im very solid with the hero if you want any tips right here

i picked on bumblebee a little sorry breh love you


TA Guide INCOMING?!!?!?


hmm im actually really tempted to do that...got plenty of replays against pros to make it all sexy and beefy too maybe...


*COUGH* TA GUIDE preez
FADC
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
September 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#21308
[image loading]

I know it's not based on win loss but the performance thing really annoys me sometimes.
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 19 2012 22:07 GMT
#21309
On September 20 2012 06:40 Gheizen64 wrote:
Finally got promoted to very high tier lately. Got 3 wins, 3 losses in 6 games, all very fought and well played. No one ever whined, map was never black, tears were shed.


Don't know why you think those games being in the "very high" bracket matters what so ever, it's not like there's ANY difference what so ever between the lower end of very high and the higher end of high. There are loads of games where the game is considered very high and you have people who leave by 10 mins, no wards or courier, all carry lineups, the standard "idi nahui cyka))" shit, etc. etc.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#21310
Damn that is a lot of games played as Chen.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
September 19 2012 22:09 GMT
#21311
If you mouseover a certain part of the performance bear, it tells you how it rates your heroes. Pretty much... wins/losses are not considered but more of your performance compared to people within your skill level...

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CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2870 Posts
September 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#21312
The cutest thing about dota 2 is definently the player who says "All push now" and when asked why responds with "mum is making me go to bed in 10 minutes".

Ah the memories of trying to explain the nature of multiplayer games to parents. It never worked.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Flameberger
Profile Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
September 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#21313
On September 20 2012 07:09 blahz0r wrote:
If you mouseover a certain part of the performance bear, it tells you how it rates your heroes. Pretty much... wins/losses are not considered but more of your performance compared to people within your skill level...



But how does it rate that performance against other players? K/D/A?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 22:39:06
September 19 2012 22:33 GMT
#21314
On September 20 2012 07:12 Flameberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 07:09 blahz0r wrote:
If you mouseover a certain part of the performance bear, it tells you how it rates your heroes. Pretty much... wins/losses are not considered but more of your performance compared to people within your skill level...



But how does it rate that performance against other players? K/D/A?

I certainly think so.
Unlike all the people I know I am a very polar player. So my performance bars go from nearly 100%(Viper) down to the heroes with which I tend to have negative KDA(windrunner, ench).
Viper is actually the hero that tipped me off. Nethertoxin makes it likely to accidentally get kills in teamfights(+128 dam on <20%) even if people on your team try their best to lasthit.

Anyway, does anybody have more info on that?

edit:
Checking my stats with Dotabuff, it´s not impossible that the performance bar is based on vanilla KDA.
Maybe your KDA in comparison to other heroes of your skill bracket?
Apparently people in my bracket cant play Viper or Lion.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Aui_2000
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada435 Posts
September 19 2012 22:34 GMT
#21315
On September 20 2012 03:24 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 10:40 Heh_ wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:33 BurningSera wrote:
wait i thought all ulti can still kill courier?

Meanwhile Solace from PB rq against sing :S

I don't think it's Solace himself. When Sing2x checked his Dota profile, he didn't have any clan logos on it. So either PB doesn't have clan logos yet but more obscure teams do (can someone check it out?), or that guy is a fake.


aui has said on stream like 100x that Solace isn't in PB. He is a friend to the crew and will join to scrim from time to time but he is not a team member.


Confirming solace isn't on pb. So his actions--especially in pubs--don't represent our team.

He is going to paris for eswc with us, because sneyking is not 18 and thus not allowed to participate, though.
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Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 19 2012 22:35 GMT
#21316
It is almost certainly based on K/D/A, yes.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 22:36:29
September 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#21317
It's definitely not KDA, my top 2 heroes are Chen and Rubick when I mostly play solomid. It's probably just a variation on their matchmaking algorithm.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 19 2012 22:40 GMT
#21318
On September 20 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 07:12 Flameberger wrote:
On September 20 2012 07:09 blahz0r wrote:
If you mouseover a certain part of the performance bear, it tells you how it rates your heroes. Pretty much... wins/losses are not considered but more of your performance compared to people within your skill level...



But how does it rate that performance against other players? K/D/A?

I certainly think so.
Unlike all the people I know I am a very polar player. So my performance bars go from nearly 100%(Viper) down to the heroes with which I tend to have negative KDA(windrunner, ench).
Viper is actually the hero that tipped me off. Nethertoxin makes it likely to accidentally get kills in teamfights(+128 dam on <20%) even if people on your team try their best to lasthit.

Anyway, does anybody have more info on that?


I have a feeling relative xpm/gpm have a lot to do with it. My 5/5 heroes is stuff like gyro, where I just had 5 games of carry solomid gyro, going stats/flak (real good btw). I suspect the xpm/gpm were way higher than the average gyro, so the performance is higher.
I actually consider my good heroes (support roamers like cm venge etc) to be way better than my shitty carry heroes, and yet their performance bar is shit by comparison to my antimages, drows and so on
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 19 2012 22:40 GMT
#21319
On September 20 2012 07:36 Bash wrote:
It's definitely not KDA, my top 2 heroes are Chen and Rubick when I mostly play solomid. It's probably just a variation on their matchmaking algorithm.


What does that have to do with anything. The KDA you get on those two heroes is better in comparision to other people who play those heroes at around your matchmaking level.

Like, going 15/0 on invoker isn't THAT impressive, and probably won't make your performance go up by that much, while going 15/0 on CM will probably make it fill up instantly.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 22:47:19
September 19 2012 22:45 GMT
#21320
I highly doubt my 1-5 w/l record with Rubick is worth 4,5 bars regardless. The mere fact that most of my Rubick games were onesided stomps in the opponents favour makes it pretty fucking unlikely that I get a better score than most people, especially for a hero that is played so much.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
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