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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On September 19 2012 23:18 Qbek wrote: So basicaly give him free radiance? No. The damage it does is actually pretty big No no 1% is by no means big. like 85 secs to kill someone | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 20 2012 00:03 epoc wrote: No no 1% is by no means big. like 85 secs to kill someone You don't kill people with heartstopper. And 1% is more than 100 seconds to kill coz they regen. You use heartstopper the make people not want to be within 1000 (!) range of you. Level one is a bit more than a ring of regen regenerates for most heroes, it's MASSIVE | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 20 2012 00:03 epoc wrote: No no 1% is by no means big. like 85 secs to kill someone think of it this way: skill 1 level in heartstopper. the enemy no longer passively regenerates, they need to buy items to get regen. giving yourself permanent damage in lane is ridiculous especially for a healer character. EDIT: dendi with tranqs on BH. :D | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
50 base damage drow 46 base damage venge (averages) 189x1.28 damage drow 178x1.36 damage venge 242 damage drow 242 damage venge drow has more agi both have same attack rate. therefore drow does more DPS. EDIT: is anyone watching M5 vs CLG.. because professor of lizardry is a pretty awesome nick for dota... | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On September 20 2012 00:03 epoc wrote: No no 1% is by no means big. like 85 secs to kill someone 1.2% in teamfights is pretty damn good. Sorry i think you're severely underestimating just how big an impact it has in fights with necrolyte in them(Which will often be prolonged due to the nature of him as a hero.) Due to the big AOE of the skill it will constantly be dealing anywhere from 3.6 to 6% damage to the enemy team split among them every second, if a fight lasts just 10 seconds this is suddenly 36% to 60% and if it lasts 20 seconds it's 72 to 120%. Not sure how this is weak. You want to buff it up to 3%, that would make it anywhere from 9 to 15% per second and in a 10 second fight 90% to 150% and in a 20 second fight anywhere from 180 to 300%. Obviously these numbers fluctuate as enemies die/whatever. But it's a good skill for prolonged fights, which necrolyte is good at. On September 20 2012 00:48 PrinceXizor wrote: 139 agi drow 132 agi venge 50 base damage drow 46 base damage venge (averages) 189x1.28 damage drow 178x1.36 damage venge 242 damage drow 242 damage venge drow has more agi both have same attack rate. therefore drow does more DPS. EDIT: is anyone watching M5 vs CLG.. because professor of lizardry is a pretty awesome nick for dota... You forgot the minus armor venge has. Ontop of a stun. Not to mention venge has better strength gain. | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On September 20 2012 00:33 PrinceXizor wrote: think of it this way: skill 1 level in heartstopper. the enemy no longer passively regenerates, they need to buy items to get regen. giving yourself permanent damage in lane is ridiculous especially for a healer character. EDIT: dendi with tranqs on BH. :D isn't heartstopper aura's damage HP removal so it ignores magic resistance? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:18 [17]Purple wrote: isn't heartstopper aura's damage HP removal so it ignores magic resistance? yeah. as stated a bunch xD | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:23 PassiveAce wrote: Hey guys, did you know that Necrolytes heartstopper aura counts as hp removal so it cant be blocked by magic immunity? I'm not sure, how about you ask me again in 5 minutes? | ||
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Nobu
Spain550 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:23 PassiveAce wrote: Hey guys, did you know that Necrolytes heartstopper aura counts as hp removal so it cant be blocked by magic immunity? + Show Spoiler + disccussed for two pages like 3 of them ago  | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:31 Nobu wrote: disccussed for two pages like 3 of them ago + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/14/140958/2300751-bb56d372_Thats_the_joke.jpeg) User was warned for this post | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:34 Erasme wrote: i think hes joking. and did you know that hp removal arent affected by magic resistance ? Now that you ask, yeah, I think I knew, but thanks for pointing that out regardless! | ||
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
ahh it gets to you aswell? someone asks something very specific.. no one replies then 1 guy replies next 2 hours is just people saying the same thing over and over lol | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:17 Unleashing wrote: You forgot the minus armor venge has. Ontop of a stun. Not to mention venge has better strength gain. Oh are you talking full kit, because you said dps. drow keeps you from touching her in the first place who cares about a slightly higher strength. and you can't do crap to her spell wise because she silences you. :/ | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:41 ChrisXIV wrote: On a related note, how would you build a carry VS? I've never fully done it, so I built her like Mirana, but now that I think about it...probably the same as Drow? Manta, Satanic, Daedalus, MKB, Butterfly, BKB, some combination of those items. don't forget to build tears from when you make your ultimate pretty bad and you have to walk in 400 range to deal damage with a squishy character. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
one can only hope! | ||
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