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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 12:15:45
September 19 2012 12:15 GMT
#21221
On September 19 2012 13:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 13:17 flamewheel wrote:
Also he doesn't scream "AUGHHHHH" when releasing pulses anymore.

#1 thing I miss about DotA 1 Necrolyte

Actually there are a lot of sound effects I miss from Dota. Lich ulti for instance :D Or desolator orb sound.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#21222
the old wc3 dryad voices.

"I'm game" or "I'm gay" if you, like me, like that more
"Yeah buddy"
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 19 2012 12:20 GMT
#21223
On September 19 2012 21:06 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:19 Kipsate wrote:
Lets ''somewhat'' compare the 2 carries
Drow Ranger

- Not a good mid anymore in the current meta
- Can't Flashfarm as well.
- Has shit ass survivability
- peaks at level 6,11,16
- Can't splitpush safely
- Has a Silence
- Has a Slow
- Has 600 range
- Has good auto attack damage

Morphling
- Good Mid
- Good early, Mid, Late and Late Late game.
- Has 2 nukes, of them one places him next to his opponent and the other one scales with his stats.
- Doesn't die
- Can splitpush
- Comes online HARD after its 1st large item(EB), ability to feed upon supports(just replicate one of your own support heroes and let him hunt, just replicate in)
- Excellent rune useage/bottle carrier
- Can Flashfarm nicely
- did I mention he doesn't die?
- shit range

I don't think it is fair to say that drow peaks at 6,11,16. She basically peaks at level 25 with max items. She is among the hardest carries in the game. Her single target damage is crazy.


It's not that she gets weaker after 16, but the diference between her and similar carries is at it's peak as soon as she levels her ult. If other heroes have a fairly linear power curve, Drow has big bumps at 6, 11 and 16 and a slower pace afterwards.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 19 2012 12:21 GMT
#21224
--- Nuked ---
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 19 2012 12:24 GMT
#21225
BOOM -> 'Good night!'
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2012 12:35 GMT
#21226
The worst changes remain the sound/animation to Maelstrom/Mjolnir and Dagon.
WriterXiao8~~
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 19 2012 12:36 GMT
#21227
Dagon should have Finger of Death's animation.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 12:45:35
September 19 2012 12:38 GMT
#21228
Is it common that your hero statistics are fucked? Mine are otherwise correct but apparently I'm 6-3 with Omniknight and he is my most succesful hero. And I have 1/5 of a performance bar on him..

When actually I have only played two matches on him...

Also I got my Steelseries 6gv2 Red Edition yesterday and when I'm using media keys (steelseries function button and F2, F3) to increase volume it also opens shop tab and when I'm lowering it buys my quick buy. I have these binded to C and V so it seems pretty weird to me.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 19 2012 12:40 GMT
#21229
On September 19 2012 21:38 Vaelone wrote:
Is it common that your hero statistics are fucked? Mine are otherwise correct but apparently I'm 6-3 with Omniknight and he is my most succesful hero. And I have 1/5 of a performance bar on him..

When actually I have only played two matches on him...

Mine is pretty bugged as well

I have played 1 game of PA. I randomed her.
But for some reason the ingame performance bar says I have played her 20+ times and it is 5/5
"Yeah buddy"
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#21230
The thing about drow is that her ulti isn't really an ulti, it's a compensation for her 1.9 agi gain. So yeah as a lot of people posted she's strong at 6 11 16 because at those levels she'll have more agi than any other carry, but at lvl 8 13 18 she won't (I haven't done the math tho =D). So they could give her no ulti and normal stats it wouldn't change much.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:00:58
September 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#21231
On September 19 2012 21:35 Kipsate wrote:
The worst changes remain the sound/animation to Maelstrom/Mjolnir and Dagon.

Ho yeah. Maelstrom went from a badass chain lightning to a weak bouncing shot of piss.
edit : and the fact that the damage isn't synchronozed with the animation make it look and 'feel' even weaker.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 12:56:49
September 19 2012 12:53 GMT
#21232
On September 19 2012 21:43 MrCon wrote:
The thing about drow is that her ulti isn't really an ulti, it's a compensation for her 1.9 agi gain. So yeah as a lot of people posted she's strong at 6 11 16 because at those levels she'll have more agi than any other carry, but at lvl 8 13 18 she won't (I haven't done the math tho =D). So they could give her no ulti and normal stats it wouldn't change much.


Well, she would need a negative agi growth to be worse after only two levels considering she gets 15 agility each level of her ult, so it's not that extreme. She gets 45/25=1,8 extra agi/lvl in the end, making a total of 1.9+1.8=3.7 agi/lvl, which is stil considerably higher than any other carry, so you can't really say it's only compensation for her poor agi gain and other carries catch up later. It's just that her advantage diminishes after each level she gets after 16. It is still an advantage.

By 16 it would be 45/16=2.8 agi/lvl, bumping the agi gain to a ridiculous 4.7.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:11:26
September 19 2012 13:10 GMT
#21233
You see Shikyo, you said all this stuff about drow but you forgot to consult the chart

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On September 19 2012 21:36 SKC wrote:
Dagon should have Finger of Death's animation.

Speaking of animations... does anyone know if you steal assassinate from sniper with rubick if rubick uses his staff like a rifle?
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 19 2012 13:11 GMT
#21234
--- Nuked ---
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 13:13 GMT
#21235
On September 19 2012 22:11 Dattish wrote:
drow is so strong, her carry potential affects time.

what you see is actually the faceless void altering their strengths to his advantage.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:15:56
September 19 2012 13:14 GMT
#21236
On September 19 2012 21:53 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 21:43 MrCon wrote:
The thing about drow is that her ulti isn't really an ulti, it's a compensation for her 1.9 agi gain. So yeah as a lot of people posted she's strong at 6 11 16 because at those levels she'll have more agi than any other carry, but at lvl 8 13 18 she won't (I haven't done the math tho =D). So they could give her no ulti and normal stats it wouldn't change much.


Well, she would need a negative agi growth to be worse after only two levels considering she gets 15 agility each level of her ult, so it's not that extreme. She gets 45/25=1,8 extra agi/lvl in the end, making a total of 1.9+1.8=3.7 agi/lvl, which is stil considerably higher than any other carry, so you can't really say it's only compensation for her poor agi gain and other carries catch up later. It's just that her advantage diminishes after each level she gets after 16. It is still an advantage.

By 16 it would be 45/16=2.8 agi/lvl, bumping the agi gain to a ridiculous 4.7.

Ho.
Thanks =)


On September 19 2012 22:10 PrinceXizor wrote:
You see Shikyo, you said all this stuff about drow but you forgot to consult the chart

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 21:36 SKC wrote:
Dagon should have Finger of Death's animation.

Speaking of animations... does anyone know if you steal assassinate from sniper with rubick if rubick uses his staff like a rifle?

Hahaha :D

Watch the latest Dotacinema top10 to see a Rubick steal and use it !

Ho no it's not dotacinema, it's this



So the answer is yes.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#21237
Rubick so badass finger of death + assassinate animations too good.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#21238
Assassinate on rubick has a special animation, yes. It also completely owns sniper
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 13:21 GMT
#21239
On September 19 2012 22:18 Qbek wrote:
Assassinate on rubick has a special animation, yes. It also completely owns sniper

new goal for the week:

steal assassinate, use telekinesis then assassinate on target to kill. record, put on youtube, name video DOTA 2 skeet shooting.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 19 2012 13:28 GMT
#21240
Honestly think drow should just get a straight damage increase. I mean she has no escape and no mobility so why not make her a static pwning machine.
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