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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 10:11 GMT
#21201
don't forget drow has super high base agi, as well as scaling better with agi than other ranged carries gainign 1.28 damage per agi.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#21202
--- Nuked ---
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 19 2012 10:53 GMT
#21203
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2012 10:54 GMT
#21204
Still doesn't solve the fact that she has jack ass survivability.
WriterXiao8~~
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 19 2012 10:56 GMT
#21205
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

Well...

Is it not all right for the carry with no survivability to be the strongest? I don't see what's wrong with that... Morphling is currently #1 carry imo and he has 4 more escape mechs than her.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:07:55
September 19 2012 11:06 GMT
#21206
On September 19 2012 19:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

Well...

Is it not all right for the carry with no survivability to be the strongest? I don't see what's wrong with that... Morphling is currently #1 carry imo and he has 4 more escape mechs than her.

she is the strongest. without items she has 230 damage. morphling has at most 228.if he has 1 strength and 186 damage with the same health.

Morphling isn't #1 carry because he's the strongest, it's because of his powerful mid game and his escape. right click power isn't really his specialty.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 19 2012 11:07 GMT
#21207
On September 19 2012 20:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 19:56 Shikyo wrote:
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

Well...

Is it not all right for the carry with no survivability to be the strongest? I don't see what's wrong with that... Morphling is currently #1 carry imo and he has 4 more escape mechs than her.

she is the strongest. without items she has 230 damage. morphling has at most 228.if he has 1 strength.

Morphling isn't #1 carry because he's the strongest, it's because of his powerful mid game and his escape. right click power isn't really his specialty.

Hey morph has 2 nukes and the rep while drow purely autos --
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:11:03
September 19 2012 11:10 GMT
#21208
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

thanks to version 6.67 metagame i can last hit on drow pretty easily. what drow needs is a better cast animation/better stat growth/frost arrow that doesnt suck

and give her full night vision as well
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:11:24
September 19 2012 11:10 GMT
#21209
On September 19 2012 20:07 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2012 19:56 Shikyo wrote:
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

Well...

Is it not all right for the carry with no survivability to be the strongest? I don't see what's wrong with that... Morphling is currently #1 carry imo and he has 4 more escape mechs than her.

she is the strongest. without items she has 230 damage. morphling has at most 228.if he has 1 strength.

Morphling isn't #1 carry because he's the strongest, it's because of his powerful mid game and his escape. right click power isn't really his specialty.

Hey morph has 2 nukes and the rep while drow purely autos --


Hence a powerful mid game.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 19 2012 11:14 GMT
#21210
On September 19 2012 19:50 Dattish wrote:

Dota 2 shitty digest vol 3


holy shit this is like hon digest so good
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:16:07
September 19 2012 11:14 GMT
#21211
On September 19 2012 20:07 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2012 19:56 Shikyo wrote:
On September 19 2012 19:53 ChrisXIV wrote:
Drow with 3 agi gain would be so overpowered. Carry #1 right there.

The only "fix" I'd like to see on her is her abysmal attack animation, no matter how many games I play with her I miss way too many lasthits because of that. I don't think she would be overpowered with a 0.5 or even lower attack animation as her base damage is so erratic.

Well...

Is it not all right for the carry with no survivability to be the strongest? I don't see what's wrong with that... Morphling is currently #1 carry imo and he has 4 more escape mechs than her.

she is the strongest. without items she has 230 damage. morphling has at most 228.if he has 1 strength.

Morphling isn't #1 carry because he's the strongest, it's because of his powerful mid game and his escape. right click power isn't really his specialty.

Hey morph has 2 nukes and the rep while drow purely autos --

i mean i don't understand what you want drow to do...

She has the most right click power and second longest range of any carry, she also has a powerful team fight spell and kiting ability not to mention that she makes your supports much stronger in a fight after their spells are cast and sieges towers the best besides sniper out of the carries. she doesn't have a nuke or escape, that's it. if you want to change her ult and give her 28 agility for free, you'd want it to be...waveform?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:22:47
September 19 2012 11:19 GMT
#21212
Lets ''somewhat'' compare the 2 carries
Drow Ranger

- Not a good mid anymore in the current meta
- Can't Flashfarm as well.
- Has shit ass survivability
- peaks at level 6,11,16
- Can't splitpush safely
- Has a Silence
- Has a Slow
- Has 600 range
- Has good auto attack damage

Morphling
- Good Mid
- Good early, Mid, Late and Late Late game.
- Has 2 nukes, of them one places him next to his opponent and the other one scales with his stats.
- Doesn't die
- Can splitpush
- Comes online HARD after its 1st large item(EB), ability to feed upon supports(just replicate one of your own support heroes and let him hunt, just replicate in)
- Excellent rune useage/bottle carrier
- Can Flashfarm nicely
- did I mention he doesn't die?
- shit range
WriterXiao8~~
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 11:20 GMT
#21213
to be fair kipsate at level 1 drow is far more scary than morphling. orb walking is such a powerful lane tool.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 19 2012 11:22 GMT
#21214
On September 19 2012 20:19 Kipsate wrote:
Lets ''somewhat'' compare the 2 carries
Drow Ranger

- Not a good mid anymore in the current meta
- Can't Flashfarm as well.
- Has shit ass survivability
- peaks at level 6,11,16
- Can't splitpush safely
- Has a Silence
- Has a Slow
- Has 600 range
- Has good auto attack damage

Morphling
- Good Mid
- Good early, Mid, Late and Late Late game.
- Has 2 nukes, of them places him next to his opponent and the other one scales with his stats.
- Doesn't die
- Can splitpush
- Comes online HARD after its 1st large item(EB), ability to feed upon supports(just replicate one of your own support heroes and let him hunt, just replicate in)
- Excellent rune useage/bottle carrier
- Can Flashfarm nicely
- did I mention he doesn't die?
- shit range

625 range
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2012 11:23 GMT
#21215
Wait wat

my bad.

ow yeah, I suppose Drow Has 1700 night vision, Morph has 800.
WriterXiao8~~
cheeseosaur
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia134 Posts
September 19 2012 11:25 GMT
#21216
On September 19 2012 19:50 Dattish wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yjih_xSfmw

Dota 2 shitty digest vol 3


That was amazing
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#21217
[image loading]

hohohohho
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#21218
Well, he is a valve employee now...
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#21219
I think he isn't payed for dota1, otherwise it would be in 2015
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 19 2012 12:06 GMT
#21220
On September 19 2012 20:19 Kipsate wrote:
Lets ''somewhat'' compare the 2 carries
Drow Ranger

- Not a good mid anymore in the current meta
- Can't Flashfarm as well.
- Has shit ass survivability
- peaks at level 6,11,16
- Can't splitpush safely
- Has a Silence
- Has a Slow
- Has 600 range
- Has good auto attack damage

Morphling
- Good Mid
- Good early, Mid, Late and Late Late game.
- Has 2 nukes, of them one places him next to his opponent and the other one scales with his stats.
- Doesn't die
- Can splitpush
- Comes online HARD after its 1st large item(EB), ability to feed upon supports(just replicate one of your own support heroes and let him hunt, just replicate in)
- Excellent rune useage/bottle carrier
- Can Flashfarm nicely
- did I mention he doesn't die?
- shit range

I don't think it is fair to say that drow peaks at 6,11,16. She basically peaks at level 25 with max items. She is among the hardest carries in the game. Her single target damage is crazy.
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