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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
September 12 2012 03:10 GMT
#20221
evanthebouncys so fun to play with
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#20222
On September 12 2012 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Wards are pretty insane for damage if you can disable someone next to some high level wards... For example with Shadow Shaman. Can get some surprisingly easy kills in the early game if the enemy goes into their range without a damage buffer. Also for traps, as was mentioned. I think that Venomancer on the surface seems rather simple to play but in reality you have many little things to do that increase your efficiency(Mainly with wards).

As a side note, currently really enjoying Juggernaut. He seems incredibly powerful if you enter the fight as a cleanup, the ult without any creeps is pretty crazy. Also pretty insane if you manage to bait some high cooldown ultimates with the spin(This might not work against better players). No idea what I'm supposed to build, though. I've been going with some sort of a combination of Battle Fury, Phase Boots, Butterfly, Vlads, and Black King Bar. Maybe I should start building Aghanims, but on the other hand staying in that form for too long might be slightly detrimential to damage because of how good Juggernaut's basic attacks are ...


if you have enough attack speed you get auto attacks in while hes ulting
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
September 12 2012 03:19 GMT
#20223
On September 12 2012 12:11 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Wards are pretty insane for damage if you can disable someone next to some high level wards... For example with Shadow Shaman. Can get some surprisingly easy kills in the early game if the enemy goes into their range without a damage buffer. Also for traps, as was mentioned. I think that Venomancer on the surface seems rather simple to play but in reality you have many little things to do that increase your efficiency(Mainly with wards).

As a side note, currently really enjoying Juggernaut. He seems incredibly powerful if you enter the fight as a cleanup, the ult without any creeps is pretty crazy. Also pretty insane if you manage to bait some high cooldown ultimates with the spin(This might not work against better players). No idea what I'm supposed to build, though. I've been going with some sort of a combination of Battle Fury, Phase Boots, Butterfly, Vlads, and Black King Bar. Maybe I should start building Aghanims, but on the other hand staying in that form for too long might be slightly detrimential to damage because of how good Juggernaut's basic attacks are ...


if you have enough attack speed you get auto attacks in while hes ulting


Yeah my favorite Jugg build is treads 3 thunderhammers aghs and a refresher I think it's pretty viable too.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
September 12 2012 03:20 GMT
#20224
Honestly i go phase-sr-drum on jugg. BF is good but your power is early game not late.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 12 2012 03:20 GMT
#20225
On September 12 2012 12:11 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Wards are pretty insane for damage if you can disable someone next to some high level wards... For example with Shadow Shaman. Can get some surprisingly easy kills in the early game if the enemy goes into their range without a damage buffer. Also for traps, as was mentioned. I think that Venomancer on the surface seems rather simple to play but in reality you have many little things to do that increase your efficiency(Mainly with wards).

As a side note, currently really enjoying Juggernaut. He seems incredibly powerful if you enter the fight as a cleanup, the ult without any creeps is pretty crazy. Also pretty insane if you manage to bait some high cooldown ultimates with the spin(This might not work against better players). No idea what I'm supposed to build, though. I've been going with some sort of a combination of Battle Fury, Phase Boots, Butterfly, Vlads, and Black King Bar. Maybe I should start building Aghanims, but on the other hand staying in that form for too long might be slightly detrimential to damage because of how good Juggernaut's basic attacks are ...


if you have enough attack speed you get auto attacks in while hes ulting

This is why I always rush mask of madness when playing juggernaut.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 12 2012 03:21 GMT
#20226
On September 12 2012 12:11 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Wards are pretty insane for damage if you can disable someone next to some high level wards... For example with Shadow Shaman. Can get some surprisingly easy kills in the early game if the enemy goes into their range without a damage buffer. Also for traps, as was mentioned. I think that Venomancer on the surface seems rather simple to play but in reality you have many little things to do that increase your efficiency(Mainly with wards).

As a side note, currently really enjoying Juggernaut. He seems incredibly powerful if you enter the fight as a cleanup, the ult without any creeps is pretty crazy. Also pretty insane if you manage to bait some high cooldown ultimates with the spin(This might not work against better players). No idea what I'm supposed to build, though. I've been going with some sort of a combination of Battle Fury, Phase Boots, Butterfly, Vlads, and Black King Bar. Maybe I should start building Aghanims, but on the other hand staying in that form for too long might be slightly detrimential to damage because of how good Juggernaut's basic attacks are ...


if you have enough attack speed you get auto attacks in while hes ulting


Try soulring phase drums diffusal on juggs. Its pretty nice since they cant run away from you and you have insane push power with the healing ward. There is also a battlefury mask of madness build too. It allows you to get the attack speed for the ultimate and cancel the mask of madness effect with the whirlwind.
High Risk Low Reward
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 12 2012 03:25 GMT
#20227
does anyone else like satanic as orb on jugg? getting down to low health just pop active and then ult back to full hp is pretty fun
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 12 2012 04:24 GMT
#20228
On September 12 2012 11:59 Nilrem wrote:
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On September 12 2012 11:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 12 2012 11:23 Heh_ wrote:
On September 12 2012 11:09 Nilrem wrote:
On September 12 2012 11:00 Heh_ wrote:
Woot someone commended me for playing a support veno which actually supports.. although I ended up with the most kills on the team lol.


Veno is one of my all time favorite heroes. Such fun to play (although I do not go full support on him, even though I should). But it is just very enjoyable, especially ward micro.

Yeah wards are fun. Juking through trees? My loyal ward says no.

Only problem is that noobs don't get it at all =/

but wards don't increase your damage directly like maxing poison sting/gale does. they suck...


They don't suck! That is blasphemy! The group of trees right next to the T1 midlane radiant side, you can block people inside the trees with 2 wards, or protect yourself as well (perfect placement against melee0. I do not see them as doing damage, but being more tanky. Having level 1 is too easily killed, even in beginning. So need to level them up so not free gold and takes several hits to kill.


>.> the wink meant sarcasm..
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 12 2012 04:29 GMT
#20229
lothars jugg is sick
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 12 2012 04:35 GMT
#20230
While we're on jugg, is 4x bfury aghs phase boots a troll build or actually viable? I know most of my friends swear by that build and have quite high MMR.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 12 2012 04:37 GMT
#20231
could be better but it's not that bad
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 12 2012 04:39 GMT
#20232
swap a bfury for refresher and ur golden
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:51:35
September 12 2012 04:40 GMT
#20233
On September 12 2012 13:35 hunts wrote:
While we're on jugg, is 4x bfury aghs phase boots a troll build or actually viable? I know most of my friends swear by that build and have quite high MMR.

4x bfury is viable on every hero, ask your friends

the problem is acquiring the farm for it, but once you have it game is virtually over

source: i have a 100% win rate in games i manage to farm 4x bfury
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 12 2012 04:43 GMT
#20234
On September 12 2012 13:35 hunts wrote:
While we're on jugg, is 4x bfury aghs phase boots a troll build or actually viable? I know most of my friends swear by that build and have quite high MMR.


on a scale of one to troll id say pretty troll. just get one fury to farm up the big items
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 12 2012 04:48 GMT
#20235
On September 12 2012 13:40 tube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 13:35 hunts wrote:
While we're on jugg, is 4x bfury aghs phase boots a troll build or actually viable? I know most of my friends swear by that build and have quite high MMR.

4x bfury on viable on every hero, ask your friends

the problem is acquiring the farm for it, but once you have it game is virtually over

source: i have a 100% win rate in games i manage to farm 4x bfury

i think ur right
i have a 100% winrate in games with 4+ bfuries too
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
September 12 2012 04:52 GMT
#20236
yeah let me rephrase that:
4x bfury is imbalanced on every hero
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 12 2012 04:59 GMT
#20237
I have 100% winrate in games where I get shadow blade BH, most OP build in game
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
September 12 2012 05:09 GMT
#20238
First match of the day; plays as Morph and was on safe lane.... by end of match, I have treads, Eblade, skadi, Skadi, butterfly, and manta. It felt so good to be so damn strong. With all my strength morphed, I sitll have 2k hp. And where all my agility morphed, I had 5k hp.

Oh the joys of Morph and how people hate him.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
September 12 2012 06:13 GMT
#20239
Skadi Skadi? No satanic,mkb or crit o_O
Dota 3hard5me
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
September 12 2012 06:16 GMT
#20240
On September 12 2012 15:13 Nub4ever wrote:
Skadi Skadi? No satanic,mkb or crit o_O


I like skadiiii. I use to get satanic back in the day with morph when went more right click attack over flat our burst. I would get skadi more often if not for its annoying item requirements that do not flow very well.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
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