There's no reason to dispute that since you've offered no evidence to support the assertion. Performance in one tournament means very little as you probably know. It's pretty unlikely anyone who knows anything about the game can look at Rain's play and think he is better than any of the players you listed, however

plual226

New Zealand17 Posts

December 09 2010 23:02 GMT

#42

On December 10 2010 07:50 Jayrod wrote:
TSL_Rain > Idra
TSL_Rain > Nestea
TSL_Rain > Genius

Dispute this with facts.

Every game I've watched from rain has been riddled with mistakes from either side, unimaginative cheese, or just plain boring. Thats why I am already disappointed for the final.

DrakeFZX3

United States925 Posts

December 09 2010 23:07 GMT

#43

It's unfortunate Rain has gotten so much hate, but when you realize there's $87,000 dollars on the line, you use every strategy to win.

Rain's now in the Finals with a guaranteed $27,000 dollars. Whether or not the series were watchable, you really can't fault the guy.

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

December 09 2010 23:13 GMT

#44

Gogo Rain! So happy he made the finals after all the bullshit that happened after the Nestea series!

Thanks for the interview Canucks - always awesome!

MC vs Jinro will be so sweet.. so so sweet; mix of scv rush/marauder conc shells rush/macro games.. exciting

Moragon

United States355 Posts

December 09 2010 23:27 GMT

#45

On December 10 2010 07:50 Jayrod wrote:
TSL_Rain > Idra
TSL_Rain > Nestea
TSL_Rain > Genius

Dispute this with facts.

You forgot:
TSL_Rain>Squirtle
TSL_Rain>Hongun

Guys a protoss slayer and people still arent giving him props. No duh he wants to face MC. Bring on the toss!

DeLoAdEr

Japan527 Posts

December 09 2010 23:35 GMT

#46

does rain have any previous rts background?

d[s]c

United States79 Posts

December 09 2010 23:42 GMT

#47

" Rain vs Jinro Finals "- me

coitus

Canada8 Posts

December 09 2010 23:42 GMT

#48

FEAR THE JINRONATOR

PangO

Chile1870 Posts

December 09 2010 23:46 GMT

#49

Guess we'll have Jinro vs Rain !

ccdnl

United States611 Posts

December 10 2010 00:06 GMT

#50

"Q. Who do you want to advance to the final?
A. I want oGsMC to advance. I think Liquid'Jinro will probably advance, but I'd prefer if oGsMC did instead."

Hohoho, I hope you are correct about Chinro, you dandy sir.

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

December 10 2010 00:34 GMT

#51

Thanks for the translation. And I didnt know Guineapig wasnt on TSL anymore.

Krehlmar

Sweden1149 Posts

December 10 2010 00:40 GMT

#52

I'm angry at the played matches, seriously 1 game was good, 1 was ok and the rest (no spoilers) were godamn terrible. No one deserved to win half of them with bad all-in's and worthless WORTHLESS tactical decitions and attacks.

It felt like watching R64 in GSL1 instead of Semi finals GSL3.

Also yeah I know I'm not Diamond 91000 rating etc etc. I'm still entitled to an opinion and from watching tons and tons of replays, those matches I just saw made me angry and seriously shout out commands to the players... 'tis was just painfull to watch.

EDIT:
And seriously huge props to IdrA for being the only one with balls enough to call these bad players out, whereas Artosis and Tastless have to promote them to not make the finals sound like a boring fucking cheese/all-in fest with lackluster strategy and decisionmaking.

"hater" is not what this is about, this is about TSL_Rain playing smart albiet boring as fuck, thereby killing the "sport" for most of us and in the long term if everyone played like that people would stop watching. Alot of us hate because we feel players like Rain are ruining the GSL and the game of which we all love.
Thank god for players like JinrO or I'd revoke my GOM Tv season ticket.

EliteReplay

Dominican Republic913 Posts

December 10 2010 01:01 GMT

#53

when i was waching the last set i tought RH could win, i think if this was patch 1.2 were SCV have the same target as what they are repairing it will be a different Story

redFF

United States3910 Posts

December 10 2010 01:03 GMT

#54

hes actually ok

mango_destroyer

Canada3914 Posts

December 10 2010 01:09 GMT

#55

On December 10 2010 07:50 Jayrod wrote:
TSL_Rain > Idra
TSL_Rain > Nestea
TSL_Rain > Genius

Dispute this with facts.

IMMvp beat Idra. There is your fact.

tournamentnow

Australia111 Posts

December 10 2010 01:13 GMT

#56

^ doesn't matter who beat idra. If idra won he would have more credibility.

hellohilo

United States68 Posts

December 10 2010 01:42 GMT

#57

I feel a lot better about Rain knowing that he can actually win by playing SC2 without a terrible amount of cheese. He does deserve credit for the way he's handled the situation, as he's seemed very professional since that Ro8.

FILM

United States663 Posts

December 10 2010 02:26 GMT

#58

I get the feeling a number of Koreans are upset that someone can play "so cheesy" and make his way to acquire $89,000... but at the same time if it's the strongest strategy and it works it's hard to fault the guy. As some earlier said in the thread, there's a reason he's on TSL. If anyone has confidence issues I feel its Rain. Y'all need to stop playing into his insecurity. If IdrA said "I play to win" people wouldn't gripe.

SubtleArt

2710 Posts

December 10 2010 03:33 GMT

#59

On December 10 2010 05:58 pak150 wrote:
I was very impressed with Rain's mental toughness. It could not have been easy for him to compete at that level knowing how angry everyone was at him (anger that I don't understand — he played to win and did what he had to do). He seems like a nice kid too, so I wouldn't mind if he ended up winning the whole thing.

Anger for knocking out a far superior player with abusive / all-in builds that don't particularly emphasize mechanics, I can understand it.

Also funny that he picked Jinro lol, gogogog Jinro :D

ZeNd0kUn

United States331 Posts

December 10 2010 03:46 GMT

#60

I get the impression that the Korean Netizens are way more vicious than any troll on TL and that Rain has been through some hard times. Nevertheless, the guy hasn't really shown any true brilliance in other parts of his games aside from timing attacks that either win or lose the game. His play is pretty predictable, he will either play a one base timing attack or a 2 base timing attack. The whole idea is to get a force earlier and crush the opponent while the opponent is building a force. He loses most of his games when he allows his opponent to build up a force. He also loses when his timing attacks fail but the reason he's in the finals is that he wins more with them than loses. He's knocked out pretty legit players like Genius and Nestea. And yeah he says stuff in his interviews but they're all a load of .. you know what. He'll do what he's most comfortable with and what it takes to win.