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[Video] IdrA on GSL, Code S, his stream, and more! - Page 8

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s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
December 09 2010 08:16 GMT
#141
thanks for the vid artosis!!!! really good watch
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
December 09 2010 08:30 GMT
#142
Thanks for the interview, Artosis!

Some classic Idra quotes in there ^^. "and so he [ret] lost to a player who's way worse than him"
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 09 2010 08:32 GMT
#143
Artosis- "clide"
Idra - "shut up"

LMAO
Jarek
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia35 Posts
December 09 2010 08:32 GMT
#144
Love your work Artosisssssss
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
December 09 2010 08:36 GMT
#145
great work artosis, it's been too long without these. much appreciated!
Do you really want chat rooms?
Werk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States294 Posts
December 09 2010 08:39 GMT
#146
Artosis i love your behind the scenes videos of Korea, shows a lot of the stuff that otherwise would be unknown to us noobs = )
Do Werk Son
Falcon_NL
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands236 Posts
December 09 2010 08:42 GMT
#147
Hey everyone, im artosis! and along side me is EYEdra.. *IdrA looks down, lost hope for him*
and its a BLACK HOLE !! OH MY GOD BLACK HOOOOLEEE - Tobi Wan
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
December 09 2010 08:43 GMT
#148
Great Interview as always Artosis. Thanks for the insight into IdrA's mind.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
December 09 2010 08:44 GMT
#149
lmao tester doing great? I will laugh at all the memebers of TL who says he is still good after failing to qualiy in 2 GSLs. Yes, he might be unlucky with cheese but two GSLs? That is really depressing. Can't freaken wait to see idrA hating on tester rather than praising him when he gets crushed.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#150
Clide is pretty good. His matches against Leenock were the most enjoyable out of the whole GSL season 3 so far.
Rb6v King
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia54 Posts
December 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#151
Thanks Artosis, golden moments :p

"Clide?"
"Shut up".

Epic
Hard work pays off over time, laziness pays off now.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 08:52:08
December 09 2010 08:51 GMT
#152
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 09 2010 17:10 Markwerf wrote:
Idra's narcisism is funny to see. I agree with a lot of stuff he sais but basically his hate for 'cheesy' play is completely throwing off his perspective of the game.
THe fact he is narcistic is so easy to see by the fact he doesn't think anyone is good (except for jinro, which is basically a must if you are doing a interview that will be posted on TL) while thinking basically everyone is crap. His weakness is just never wanting to cheese because it looks so stupid when cheese fails. As a result he is basically a way too predictable player though and I won't predict he will go far in GSL alot.
Also all this talk of jinro being such a macro player is overrated too. Jinro won almost the entire MLG on cheesy plays and also used a fair bit of cheese in GSL (like steppes against choya and he tried to as well on DQ). All-in play should just be a part of every player's game as it makes one unpredictable, also as idra SHOULD learn cheesy play is also the easiest way to DEFEND against cheesy play. People always cheese idra because there is basically no fear idra will cheese you just before or at the same time, while if you do a 1-base all-in the biggest fear is usually the other player doing a 1-base all-in that directly counters yours. For example jinro lost his game on DQ vs choya because he tried to do 1 base banshee/raven play while choya was doing 1 base fast robo play.

I love the fact idra just spits everything out but his view of the game is completely wrong in many aspects simply because he doesn't "like" certain aspects of the game. If the game was all macro games it would be way more boring, the balance between macro and cheese is the only problem at the moment.
Also claiming that 'mules' are the reason cheese plays are so strong is just rediculous, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. THe only thing Mules changed compared to sc1 is making 14 cc a dead build as it's economically worse then rax first, that however is a very small difference to the cheese factor terran needs to use.
The real reason cheese see's so much play is the fact that
A) terran is underpowered late game, jinro's success is no reason to deny this as 1) he used a lot of cheese as well and 2) people cheese AGAINST him a lot because they don't expect a macro game from them 3) jinro had opponent's with a TERRIBLE lategame so far in GSL (moon was awful, polt suicided himself and choya lost more to the cheese then lategame from jinro actually).
B) the mappool favors cheese too much because there are a few maps where the rush distance is extremely short, if steppes & blistering sands would be removed and close spawn LT/meta is eliminated the game would see ALOT less cheese. Terran would be very underpowered as well though if this happened as they have the worst macro game.

Basically I think a small lategame terran buff along with balancing the map pool would be a fine solution to the current problems.


1) If Idra is a narcisist, so is half the people I face on ladder.
2) It of course depends on how you define "far" but he have already gone further in these first gsl than most players.
3) No one has said that Jinro never cheese or all-in, but claiming he cheesed his way through MLG is ridiculous.
4) Also your claim that mules have "nothing to do" with cheese is what is ridiculous... "THe only thing Mules changed compared to sc1 is making 14 cc a dead build as it's economically worse then rax first, that however is a very small difference to the cheese factor terran needs to use." Just lol.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 08:55:03
December 09 2010 08:54 GMT
#153
Artosis like usual ur great! Nothing more to say.

Idra got a mind just like me. Were really much a like when it comes to thinking i guess. Idra knows he got talent and knowledge. He will make it far in the next GSL

By the way i would love to see more of Leenock! that kid got some great skills going on.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
December 09 2010 08:59 GMT
#154
Hey Artosis nice interview and commentary. The volume for your voice and game sound seemed good to me!
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
December 09 2010 09:09 GMT
#155
idra is always keeping it REAL, unlike the rest of the players
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 09 2010 09:10 GMT
#156
Reliable Artosis, always bringing the goods. Thank you! Really good questions.
KTY
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 09:13:20
December 09 2010 09:12 GMT
#157
Is it just me or does it seem like Idra keeps getting less and less negative in each interview? I enjoyed this one. I like his attitude but sometimes I feel like he can go a little overboard with it. But recently it's seemed different.
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
December 09 2010 09:13 GMT
#158
Damn IdrA is a freakin genius
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 09 2010 09:18 GMT
#159
nicely done, the entrance looks shady thou P:
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
December 09 2010 09:22 GMT
#160
I love IdrA's commentary, whether he's calling someone bad or just talking about the game. We know that he's a Starcraft elitist, but that's why we love him!
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
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