• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:00
CEST 09:00
KST 16:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star8Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid23
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1852 users

[Video] IdrA on GSL, Code S, his stream, and more! - Page 8

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
268 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 14 Next All
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
December 09 2010 08:16 GMT
#141
thanks for the vid artosis!!!! really good watch
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
December 09 2010 08:30 GMT
#142
Thanks for the interview, Artosis!

Some classic Idra quotes in there ^^. "and so he [ret] lost to a player who's way worse than him"
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 09 2010 08:32 GMT
#143
Artosis- "clide"
Idra - "shut up"

LMAO
Jarek
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia35 Posts
December 09 2010 08:32 GMT
#144
Love your work Artosisssssss
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
December 09 2010 08:36 GMT
#145
great work artosis, it's been too long without these. much appreciated!
Do you really want chat rooms?
Werk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States294 Posts
December 09 2010 08:39 GMT
#146
Artosis i love your behind the scenes videos of Korea, shows a lot of the stuff that otherwise would be unknown to us noobs = )
Do Werk Son
Falcon_NL
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands236 Posts
December 09 2010 08:42 GMT
#147
Hey everyone, im artosis! and along side me is EYEdra.. *IdrA looks down, lost hope for him*
and its a BLACK HOLE !! OH MY GOD BLACK HOOOOLEEE - Tobi Wan
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
December 09 2010 08:43 GMT
#148
Great Interview as always Artosis. Thanks for the insight into IdrA's mind.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
December 09 2010 08:44 GMT
#149
lmao tester doing great? I will laugh at all the memebers of TL who says he is still good after failing to qualiy in 2 GSLs. Yes, he might be unlucky with cheese but two GSLs? That is really depressing. Can't freaken wait to see idrA hating on tester rather than praising him when he gets crushed.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#150
Clide is pretty good. His matches against Leenock were the most enjoyable out of the whole GSL season 3 so far.
Rb6v King
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia54 Posts
December 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#151
Thanks Artosis, golden moments :p

"Clide?"
"Shut up".

Epic
Hard work pays off over time, laziness pays off now.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 08:52:08
December 09 2010 08:51 GMT
#152
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 09 2010 17:10 Markwerf wrote:
Idra's narcisism is funny to see. I agree with a lot of stuff he sais but basically his hate for 'cheesy' play is completely throwing off his perspective of the game.
THe fact he is narcistic is so easy to see by the fact he doesn't think anyone is good (except for jinro, which is basically a must if you are doing a interview that will be posted on TL) while thinking basically everyone is crap. His weakness is just never wanting to cheese because it looks so stupid when cheese fails. As a result he is basically a way too predictable player though and I won't predict he will go far in GSL alot.
Also all this talk of jinro being such a macro player is overrated too. Jinro won almost the entire MLG on cheesy plays and also used a fair bit of cheese in GSL (like steppes against choya and he tried to as well on DQ). All-in play should just be a part of every player's game as it makes one unpredictable, also as idra SHOULD learn cheesy play is also the easiest way to DEFEND against cheesy play. People always cheese idra because there is basically no fear idra will cheese you just before or at the same time, while if you do a 1-base all-in the biggest fear is usually the other player doing a 1-base all-in that directly counters yours. For example jinro lost his game on DQ vs choya because he tried to do 1 base banshee/raven play while choya was doing 1 base fast robo play.

I love the fact idra just spits everything out but his view of the game is completely wrong in many aspects simply because he doesn't "like" certain aspects of the game. If the game was all macro games it would be way more boring, the balance between macro and cheese is the only problem at the moment.
Also claiming that 'mules' are the reason cheese plays are so strong is just rediculous, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. THe only thing Mules changed compared to sc1 is making 14 cc a dead build as it's economically worse then rax first, that however is a very small difference to the cheese factor terran needs to use.
The real reason cheese see's so much play is the fact that
A) terran is underpowered late game, jinro's success is no reason to deny this as 1) he used a lot of cheese as well and 2) people cheese AGAINST him a lot because they don't expect a macro game from them 3) jinro had opponent's with a TERRIBLE lategame so far in GSL (moon was awful, polt suicided himself and choya lost more to the cheese then lategame from jinro actually).
B) the mappool favors cheese too much because there are a few maps where the rush distance is extremely short, if steppes & blistering sands would be removed and close spawn LT/meta is eliminated the game would see ALOT less cheese. Terran would be very underpowered as well though if this happened as they have the worst macro game.

Basically I think a small lategame terran buff along with balancing the map pool would be a fine solution to the current problems.


1) If Idra is a narcisist, so is half the people I face on ladder.
2) It of course depends on how you define "far" but he have already gone further in these first gsl than most players.
3) No one has said that Jinro never cheese or all-in, but claiming he cheesed his way through MLG is ridiculous.
4) Also your claim that mules have "nothing to do" with cheese is what is ridiculous... "THe only thing Mules changed compared to sc1 is making 14 cc a dead build as it's economically worse then rax first, that however is a very small difference to the cheese factor terran needs to use." Just lol.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 08:55:03
December 09 2010 08:54 GMT
#153
Artosis like usual ur great! Nothing more to say.

Idra got a mind just like me. Were really much a like when it comes to thinking i guess. Idra knows he got talent and knowledge. He will make it far in the next GSL

By the way i would love to see more of Leenock! that kid got some great skills going on.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
December 09 2010 08:59 GMT
#154
Hey Artosis nice interview and commentary. The volume for your voice and game sound seemed good to me!
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
December 09 2010 09:09 GMT
#155
idra is always keeping it REAL, unlike the rest of the players
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 09 2010 09:10 GMT
#156
Reliable Artosis, always bringing the goods. Thank you! Really good questions.
KTY
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 09:13:20
December 09 2010 09:12 GMT
#157
Is it just me or does it seem like Idra keeps getting less and less negative in each interview? I enjoyed this one. I like his attitude but sometimes I feel like he can go a little overboard with it. But recently it's seemed different.
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
December 09 2010 09:13 GMT
#158
Damn IdrA is a freakin genius
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 09 2010 09:18 GMT
#159
nicely done, the entrance looks shady thou P:
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
December 09 2010 09:22 GMT
#160
I love IdrA's commentary, whether he's calling someone bad or just talking about the game. We know that he's a Starcraft elitist, but that's why we love him!
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 186
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4842
Hyuk 317
Tasteless 294
scan(afreeca) 155
Aegong 149
ToSsGirL 65
ggaemo 58
soO 37
NaDa 36
NotJumperer 20
[ Show more ]
Bale 19
Shine 18
Icarus 9
Moletrap 2
Dota 2
ODPixel114
League of Legends
JimRising 685
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K606
m0e_tv503
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King204
Other Games
summit1g8884
C9.Mang0444
ceh9300
Trikslyr116
NeuroSwarm80
KnowMe66
Livibee47
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream1732
Other Games
gamesdonequick700
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream307
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1253
• Lourlo1099
• Stunt524
Upcoming Events
GSL
1h
Afreeca Starleague
3h
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4h
herO vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
Solar vs Percival
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Universe Titan Cup
4 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.