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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 00:43:01
April 08 2009 00:42 GMT
#1
http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/3/22/uc-berkeley-starcraft-class-week-8.html

A Crazy Trick

Professor Feng surprised many students with this strange trick. Build an assimilator (or your race's gas extractor building) on the enemy gas geyser. On the most straightforward level, this can act as a scout if you built it at their expansion before they do. If your building is destroyed, you know they expanded. But the trick is to assign a hotkey to this gas-building. Then AFTER it is destroyed, you can press that hotkey exactly ONE time to go back to the gas geyser. When you do this, you can see the amount of gas left, even though you don't have vision to the area anymore. If you kept track of how much gas was there before, you'll know if the enemy has started mining gas there, and how much exactly they have mined. If you keep your vision there for a moment, you can even see the RATE at which the gas is being collected, so you'll know if they have only one probe, or two, or three mining there. Remember that you only have one hotkey press to use here; after your building is destroyed, the hotkey becomes unassigned after that one press. Crazy!




I never knew about this. Pretty cool.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 08 2009 00:44 GMT
#2
Damn... that would be so useful in PvT. Does it work if you build an assimilator then cancel it? Because you could tell exactly what he was up to.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 08 2009 00:45 GMT
#3
WTF
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 08 2009 00:48 GMT
#4
woah pretty sick!! i would also like to know if this works after canceling the assimilator. guess the best way is to find out for myself.
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
April 08 2009 00:51 GMT
#5
whoa... pretty crazy.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 00:59:34
April 08 2009 00:52 GMT
#6
This blew my mind.

On second thought, it doesn't seem very practical, as it can severely mess up your build order in the early game. Mid-game, maybe you can use it to see if they took an expo, but scouting does the same without using 100 minerals.
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
April 08 2009 00:53 GMT
#7
Wow, pretty cool.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 08 2009 00:57 GMT
#8
Nope, did not know this trick at all. Pretty crazy, I'll try it sometime. It is kind of hard to determine what they are doing that late in the game though depending on when they get their 2nd gas. Or at least it is for me. Most Terrans and Protosses get them at about the same time no matter what they are doing AFAIK. Perhaps it would help in TvZ or PvZ to tell whether he is doing 3 hatch muta or 3 hatch lurk or whatever? Don't you get your 2nd gas a little latter when you go lurks instead of muta or something? Would some Zerg shed some light on that?

Also, do you have to finish building the Refinery as Terran, or can you just start it, halt construction, and send your SCV somewhere else?
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Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
April 08 2009 00:58 GMT
#9
Thats pretty BM imo
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LaLaBye
Profile Joined February 2009
United States90 Posts
April 08 2009 01:02 GMT
#10
Wow they can see gas usage? And they call scanners map hack?
What do you mean the LOSER has to say GG?
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
April 08 2009 01:05 GMT
#11
I just tried to copy this and it didn't work. Can anybody recreate this on Iccup?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
April 08 2009 01:06 GMT
#12
wow thats pretty insane, this would be really useful pvt on 2 base maps like desti when u gas rush terran almost every game
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 08 2009 01:06 GMT
#13
also didn't work for me :S
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
CompX
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada216 Posts
April 08 2009 01:10 GMT
#14
I only know how to steal gas, never knew u can check the opponent's gas
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 08 2009 01:12 GMT
#15
Wow, if this works, you will never be off guard against a 2 fac again.
amish
Profile Joined February 2009
United States85 Posts
April 08 2009 01:16 GMT
#16
Didn't work for a group of my friends that tried it with all three races, both canceling and letting it be killed by our opponent. Something else that needs to be done before it works?
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
April 08 2009 01:22 GMT
#17
This could really be helpful in PvZ where speedlings block your scouting probe..

if you press that one hotkey at the appropriate time, it may indicate what the zerg's up to.. hm i'll try this on iccup today!

thanks.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
April 08 2009 01:24 GMT
#18
i also tried it but it didnt work ;p
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
April 08 2009 01:45 GMT
#19
Wow, wdf? I sense this is going to get patched. This isn't even a trick, just an exploit, if you will. That's amazing just as much as it is imba.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
April 08 2009 01:50 GMT
#20
maybe the reason 92% of tl.net-ers haven't heard of this trick is that it doesn't work
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