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stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
December 26 2008 05:05 GMT
#341
just because you can beat someone, doesn't make you better or even at same level as the opponent...lastshadow is a pretty good terran. esp for nonkor player. yes, he has some abusive builds that might seem risky, and that's why some players can take some wins off of him o_O
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 08:14:27
December 26 2008 08:12 GMT
#342
On December 26 2008 14:05 stalife wrote:
just because you can beat someone, doesn't make you better or even at same level as the opponent...lastshadow is a pretty good terran. esp for nonkor player. yes, he has some abusive builds that might seem risky, and that's why some players can take some wins off of him o_O



There is no legit A- terran in the world who my standard 3 hat muta beats. ESP in a macro game. It just isn't possible.

You can feel when you play somebody who is good, maybe he is good tvp who knows.


but in this community will always be a peice of shit lying abuser. He didn't just cheat once and apologize ...

edit: and now magically he isn't in stamina.
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
December 26 2008 08:23 GMT
#343
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all.

Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss.


I guess you've underestimated Fenix a lot there. He is definitely capable of taking games against the top non koreans.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 26 2008 08:45 GMT
#344
I misread the original post and didn't edit out my mistake
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 26 2008 08:45 GMT
#345
A class players are capable of taking games from S class players
doesnt mean theyre S class players themselves
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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
December 26 2008 08:59 GMT
#346
Well, he played a crapload of tournaments, played tvp specifically cause its the only m/u hes good at, disconnected when he lost so the loss wouldn't count against him, and when he tvz's he can only bunker rush lol. That's why he got A-.

Not to mention when the server kept disconnecting players, he played like 10 games, and reported them all at once as he moved up the ranks to help boost him.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
December 26 2008 09:02 GMT
#347
iccup down?
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
December 26 2008 09:16 GMT
#348
oh its back up
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 26 2008 09:17 GMT
#349
On December 26 2008 17:45 IdrA wrote:
A class players are capable of taking games from S class players
doesnt mean theyre S class players themselves


The differences between A- gamers and me and Sclass and Aclass is huge...

To compare it to chess.

And international master can beat a grandmaster and they statistically will, while an expert(1900-2000) won't drop games to a 1500 rank player.

At 1500 you still are misunderstanding tactics, maybe shoddy theoretical knowledge, piss fucking poor endgame knowledge, true chess strategy beyond basic attacking principles and 'good bishop vs bad bishop' is non-existent.

That is the difference between a B- gamer and an A- gamer, that gap is incredibly huge.


Also I never said I was as good or better then LS, but he is not an A- gamer otherwise he would dominate much of the non-korean scene which resides between B and A-, which he doesn't.

I feel dirty talking about him anymore. You can believe he is an A- gamer if you would like, from now on I'll sit quietly with my knowledge that he isn't.


Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
December 26 2008 09:22 GMT
#350
I think he was replying to Ash's posts

makes more sense
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
December 26 2008 10:19 GMT
#351
On December 26 2008 17:59 SkepTicAL wrote:
Well, he played a crapload of tournaments, played tvp specifically cause its the only m/u hes good at, disconnected when he lost so the loss wouldn't count against him, and when he tvz's he can only bunker rush lol. That's why he got A-.

Not to mention when the server kept disconnecting players, he played like 10 games, and reported them all at once as he moved up the ranks to help boost him.


ah you serious about that? how'd you know about it
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
December 26 2008 10:26 GMT
#352
I just lost to 40-0 B- Protoss O--(T.To)
I dont know or it would help of trying to know who's he but still :D replay
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 26 2008 10:40 GMT
#353
On December 26 2008 13:33 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
You complain a lot. And the OP hasn't updated anything for the last dozen pages, so you're not alone.


dozen? you mean 2, right?

it's christmas man, i'mm too drunk/lazy/hungover right now but will update it later
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 12:20:10
December 26 2008 12:19 GMT
#354
In my opinion, getting to A- does not make you an "A-" player. People like, say, White-Ra, who plays tons of Koreans, plays hundreds and hundreds of games at A- + ranks, that's an A- player (well, White-Ra is more than A-, but you get the point). Lastshadow, getting A- by the skin of his teeth playing specific matchups etc and then stopping at A- and never actually PLAYING a single A- vs A- game is not an A- player.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 26 2008 13:02 GMT
#355
On December 26 2008 18:17 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 17:45 IdrA wrote:
A class players are capable of taking games from S class players
doesnt mean theyre S class players themselves


The differences between A- gamers and me and Sclass and Aclass is huge...

To compare it to chess.

And international master can beat a grandmaster and they statistically will, while an expert(1900-2000) won't drop games to a 1500 rank player.

At 1500 you still are misunderstanding tactics, maybe shoddy theoretical knowledge, piss fucking poor endgame knowledge, true chess strategy beyond basic attacking principles and 'good bishop vs bad bishop' is non-existent.

That is the difference between a B- gamer and an A- gamer, that gap is incredibly huge.


Also I never said I was as good or better then LS, but he is not an A- gamer otherwise he would dominate much of the non-korean scene which resides between B and A-, which he doesn't.

I feel dirty talking about him anymore. You can believe he is an A- gamer if you would like, from now on I'll sit quietly with my knowledge that he isn't.

i was talking to ash
theres only a few foreigners who are 'legit' A-
lastshadow definitely isnt one of them.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13046 Posts
December 26 2008 14:19 GMT
#356
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all.

Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss.



Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season.

Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker".

Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
December 26 2008 14:29 GMT
#357
On December 26 2008 23:19 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all.

Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss.



Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season.

Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker".

Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example.

Fenix spam hacked during TSL and he has a lot of suspicious games and if he spamhacked it's not a far jump to think he did/does maphack so he doesn't deserve to be put in the same tier as good players.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
December 26 2008 14:48 GMT
#358
On December 26 2008 23:29 Pioneer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 23:19 SkelA wrote:
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all.

Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss.



Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season.

Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker".

Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example.

Fenix spam hacked during TSL and he has a lot of suspicious games and if he spamhacked it's not a far jump to think he did/does maphack so he doesn't deserve to be put in the same tier as good players.

spamhack = mass unit selection hack?
I never knew he was a hacker :O
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
December 26 2008 15:13 GMT
#359
LS got A- from abusing tournaments, and abusing period. He didnt play 1 game at B rank and played 2 games at B+ the rest were all tourney's LS is a B- player tops, B with abuse lol
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
December 26 2008 15:24 GMT
#360
On December 26 2008 23:48 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 23:29 Pioneer wrote:
On December 26 2008 23:19 SkelA wrote:
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote:
Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all.

Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss.



Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season.

Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker".

Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example.

Fenix spam hacked during TSL and he has a lot of suspicious games and if he spamhacked it's not a far jump to think he did/does maphack so he doesn't deserve to be put in the same tier as good players.

spamhack = mass unit selection hack?
I never knew he was a hacker :O


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