ICCup Who is Who Season 7 - Page 18
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On December 26 2008 14:05 stalife wrote: just because you can beat someone, doesn't make you better or even at same level as the opponent...lastshadow is a pretty good terran. esp for nonkor player. yes, he has some abusive builds that might seem risky, and that's why some players can take some wins off of him o_O There is no legit A- terran in the world who my standard 3 hat muta beats. ESP in a macro game. It just isn't possible. You can feel when you play somebody who is good, maybe he is good tvp who knows. but in this community will always be a peice of shit lying abuser. He didn't just cheat once and apologize ... edit: and now magically he isn't in stamina. | ||
Ash
Malaysia1978 Posts
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote: Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all. Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss. I guess you've underestimated Fenix a lot there. He is definitely capable of taking games against the top non koreans. | ||
AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
doesnt mean theyre S class players themselves | ||
SkepTicAL
Canada872 Posts
Not to mention when the server kept disconnecting players, he played like 10 games, and reported them all at once as he moved up the ranks to help boost him. | ||
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On December 26 2008 17:45 IdrA wrote: A class players are capable of taking games from S class players doesnt mean theyre S class players themselves The differences between A- gamers and me and Sclass and Aclass is huge... To compare it to chess. And international master can beat a grandmaster and they statistically will, while an expert(1900-2000) won't drop games to a 1500 rank player. At 1500 you still are misunderstanding tactics, maybe shoddy theoretical knowledge, piss fucking poor endgame knowledge, true chess strategy beyond basic attacking principles and 'good bishop vs bad bishop' is non-existent. That is the difference between a B- gamer and an A- gamer, that gap is incredibly huge. Also I never said I was as good or better then LS, but he is not an A- gamer otherwise he would dominate much of the non-korean scene which resides between B and A-, which he doesn't. I feel dirty talking about him anymore. You can believe he is an A- gamer if you would like, from now on I'll sit quietly with my knowledge that he isn't. | ||
Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
makes more sense | ||
Ash
Malaysia1978 Posts
On December 26 2008 17:59 SkepTicAL wrote: Well, he played a crapload of tournaments, played tvp specifically cause its the only m/u hes good at, disconnected when he lost so the loss wouldn't count against him, and when he tvz's he can only bunker rush lol. That's why he got A-. Not to mention when the server kept disconnecting players, he played like 10 games, and reported them all at once as he moved up the ranks to help boost him. ah you serious about that? how'd you know about it | ||
arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
I dont know or it would help of trying to know who's he but still :D replay | ||
Pads
England3228 Posts
On December 26 2008 13:33 NoobsOfWrath wrote: You complain a lot. And the OP hasn't updated anything for the last dozen pages, so you're not alone. dozen? you mean 2, right? it's christmas man, i'mm too drunk/lazy/hungover right now but will update it later | ||
Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 26 2008 18:17 AttackZerg wrote: The differences between A- gamers and me and Sclass and Aclass is huge... To compare it to chess. And international master can beat a grandmaster and they statistically will, while an expert(1900-2000) won't drop games to a 1500 rank player. At 1500 you still are misunderstanding tactics, maybe shoddy theoretical knowledge, piss fucking poor endgame knowledge, true chess strategy beyond basic attacking principles and 'good bishop vs bad bishop' is non-existent. That is the difference between a B- gamer and an A- gamer, that gap is incredibly huge. Also I never said I was as good or better then LS, but he is not an A- gamer otherwise he would dominate much of the non-korean scene which resides between B and A-, which he doesn't. I feel dirty talking about him anymore. You can believe he is an A- gamer if you would like, from now on I'll sit quietly with my knowledge that he isn't. i was talking to ash theres only a few foreigners who are 'legit' A- lastshadow definitely isnt one of them. | ||
SkelA
Macedonia13046 Posts
On December 26 2008 11:57 AttackZerg wrote: Lastshadow and fenix do not belongin that group of players you mentioned at all. Arew,white-ra and dreiven are world class protoss. Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season. Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker". Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example. | ||
Pioneer
994 Posts
On December 26 2008 23:19 SkelA wrote: Why is that?? Fenix has been like A rank forever on ladders with good stats and lastshadow is maybe a fag and idiot with some problems but if he gets B- now im quite sure he will get eventualy A- near end of season. Its the same with Mistrzzz ppl just love to hate him and saying he is bad player which is totaly wrong. Say i hate him cuz he is a prick with 0 manners not i hate him cuz he is a "bad player" or "hacker". Lastshadow is kinda similar but he got caught 3-4 times (??) for cheating/hacking before but he is playing on iccup with ah on so either he is legit now or he got some private hack that didnt record on iccup antihack which is possible. So considering his history i could say he is 40% legit or 60% using some private hack which he paid for zynastor for example. Fenix spam hacked during TSL and he has a lot of suspicious games and if he spamhacked it's not a far jump to think he did/does maphack so he doesn't deserve to be put in the same tier as good players. | ||
Puosu
6985 Posts
On December 26 2008 23:29 Pioneer wrote: Fenix spam hacked during TSL and he has a lot of suspicious games and if he spamhacked it's not a far jump to think he did/does maphack so he doesn't deserve to be put in the same tier as good players. spamhack = mass unit selection hack? I never knew he was a hacker :O | ||
Murk
Canada304 Posts
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
On December 26 2008 23:48 Puosu wrote: spamhack = mass unit selection hack? I never knew he was a hacker :O no thats not it | ||
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