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shuuk.Archi.
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany17 Posts
December 30 2003 01:49 GMT
#561
veg already gave the hint who babobabobabo is ^^
uLti-ScT-
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany104 Posts
December 30 2003 03:26 GMT
#562
ok i know it now, babobabobabo = breakdown[pg]

why?

a)he always had good wgtour records
b)mondragon told me that he isnt on with his pg id anymore
c)veg's hint "break a leg"
d)he is very good @ zvz
e)he plays random
f)all pg players want to be clever and say "haha i know who it is" -> yeah its obviously someone from pg

fisheye plays war3 btw
TT
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
December 30 2003 04:27 GMT
#563
i guessed that first-.- damn how smart am i?(yeah i thought that too about break a leg^_^)
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
BaBoBaBoBaBo
Profile Joined December 2003
7 Posts
December 30 2003 04:46 GMT
#564
well ulti you dont know it at all its just another poor guess btw all pg members cant know who i am, only one does -_-
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 30 2003 05:48 GMT
#565
On December 30 2003 13:46 BaBoBaBoBaBo wrote:
well ulti you dont know it at all its just another poor guess btw all pg members cant know who i am, only one does -_-

I think the purpose of this thread is not to be an ass; but, to share info. about players.

Most of the last few posts here have been intended to piss others off.

And... Smurfing is not authorized by WGT, so manner up.
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
December 30 2003 06:10 GMT
#566
ulti is right
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Twitt
Profile Joined December 2003
United States733 Posts
December 30 2003 06:59 GMT
#567
He vehemently denies being BrEaKdOwN[pG] to me. =/
MAN CLAN FIGHTING INDEED!~
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 30 2003 07:19 GMT
#568
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-30 08:11:53
December 30 2003 07:46 GMT
#569
Well, how is it fair for one good player to play another if he doesn't know whom he is playing? If WGT decides it is not in the best interest of the game (and it's not) to have smurfs, that should be enforced regardless of what you think as an individual admin.

One good player (smurfing) knows whom the other is, how fair is that?
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AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
December 30 2003 08:42 GMT
#570
it is totally fair. they aint playing for money are they?
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-30 09:06:54
December 30 2003 09:06 GMT
#571
With aliases you have the advantage of your opponent not knowing you, and you can abuse with your previous name. And it wastes wgt resources.
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 30 2003 10:18 GMT
#572
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
December 30 2003 10:52 GMT
#573
This thread is about naming names, which I haven't done. Once the thread deteriorates into "I know whom is whom," "no you don't, you suck," the thread can die.

Stay on topic! (I'm not on topic, but that doesn't excuse you.)

To llvy's statement: I know why people smurf. There are very good reasons why smurfing is banned. The sacrifice is that good players lose to newbs. So what? Wow, a newb beat Yellow! Should we think less of Yellow?

Infinity nagged about being banned from wgt for hack. I don't know whether he hacked, but he did have a smurf - waste of resources, and everyone's time.


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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 30 2003 12:01 GMT
#574
k if you think so but i would still continue to leave the smurfs on WGT and we all agree in that. Btw half of the known guys on page here use a smurf so that means they will agree in that case too
flowf33lah
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden21 Posts
December 30 2003 13:36 GMT
#575
h_shout_w.... isnt that zerglee?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28866 Posts
December 30 2003 13:50 GMT
#576
amat the problem is that newbies DO consider fluke games "worth" something. I don't care about losing to someone, but when I get messaged "lol I saw you lost vs blahblahblah, im a friend of him 1v1 can I join team liquid lol?" it IS annoying.

when I don't wanna play completely seriously, I smurf, because bad players won't realize that I was just joking around when I beat them and then they consider it a "normal" game.

just like I once played sven tvp back when I was really bad tvp (bad in general, but terran was my by far worst race), and I was pretty proud about lasting 50 minutes and being really close to winning, however the thing is he only made 1 goon/zealot through the entire game. (first reaver drop then only carrier), I still considered it a normal game, because I just didn't know any better, and because I really wanted it to have been a normal game.

people should be allowed to smurf. I do agree that the "lol I know who it is but you dont so im better than you" is really annoying, but I'd rather have a bunch of those posts than no smurfing at all.
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BaBoBaBoBaBo
Profile Joined December 2003
7 Posts
December 30 2003 16:55 GMT
#577
eri you are so right
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3167 Posts
December 30 2003 21:22 GMT
#578
yes,yes he is.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
December 30 2003 21:37 GMT
#579
On December 30 2003 22:36 flowf33lah wrote:
h_shout_w.... isnt that zerglee?


no. h_shout_w = sindoki
h_violet_w = zerglee
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
December 31 2003 02:16 GMT
#580
babobabobabo ur 1 of the people that consider those games worth something :/
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