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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-30 01:32:31
May 30 2008 01:29 GMT
#1
in the last 6 months i've felt like i was on the verge of discovering the secret to high apm.

up until january my apm was hovering around 240. As a terran, this is pretty good. but I wanted to go even higher. I wanted to be like nada and xellos. to reach for that 300+ consistently without giving up mechanics in the process.

You see, I've watch many replays by amateurs and other non-pros with exceptionally high apm. But they sacrifice a lot to get that apm. They're sloppy, their scvs are all over the place, they're pressing 1212121212 helplessly as their opponents ravage their base. I didn't want to be that guy.

i tried so hard. sometimes practicing with just the computer. in those games, i sometimes made beyond 300+ but it always seemed difficult. I analyzed the hell out of progamers with 300+-guys like nada, hwasin, and xellos. there was something in bwchart that i just didn't see. but i knew it was there.

i finally learned what it was. it was like breaking the sound barrier. the best news is that i didn't sacrifice my mechanics or my macro. i've seen foreigners who try to reach that magical 300 number only to give up game play in favor of bragging rights. I won't name them but their I don't consider them to be true 300 apm gamers.

unfortunately, it's taken me 8 years to come this far. I haven't improved strategy wise,and I'm not great on a whole bunch of maps, but I do know that 'trick' that progamers-specifically terrans-use to get beyond 300.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
May 30 2008 01:30 GMT
#2
Apm dont matter fool, just concentrate
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
May 30 2008 01:31 GMT
#3
..and the trick is?
lalalalala~~~
HaLLeBaRy
Profile Joined May 2008
Turkey340 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-30 01:32:47
May 30 2008 01:32 GMT
#4
It's very hard to get more than 200 on the mouse alone, the other 100 has to come from the keyboard or extremely fast mouse skills so spamming 1 2 1 2 1 2 on control groups gives alot more apm wihle doing nothing. If you want to test this get BWchart and start a game vs a comp and just start clicking on a pylon or somtehing then check the apm.
Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
May 30 2008 01:32 GMT
#5
Is it hotkeying a building and holding down that number by any chance?
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
May 30 2008 01:36 GMT
#6
I'm going to keep refreshing this page until the secret is out
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20106 Posts
May 30 2008 01:36 GMT
#7
1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111...etc.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Helio
Profile Joined May 2008
United States82 Posts
May 30 2008 01:37 GMT
#8
thats lame..
If James Bond is 1330 short of being leet, then you aren't even close.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 30 2008 01:37 GMT
#9
who cares
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
May 30 2008 01:41 GMT
#10
On May 30 2008 10:36 frozenclaw wrote:
I'm going to keep refreshing this page until the secret is out


Here's a hint. There's something that happens between the first 3 minutes and after in ever TvP or TvT. Almost without exception I saw the same thing in Nada and Xellos games with almost the exact same timeline. After 3 minutes they do something so ordinary that you wouldn't even think to look for. But I saw it. In almost every game of hwasin, nada, and xellos. I know what they did to get their high apm and having amazing macro/micro/mechanics.
HaLLeBaRy
Profile Joined May 2008
Turkey340 Posts
May 30 2008 01:45 GMT
#11
What? you make it sound like they're trying to brag about their high apm while not sacrificing mechanics if they're just playing extremely well then why do you keep saying apm they wouldn't do it for the lolz when its a serious game and money is on the line
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 30 2008 01:47 GMT
#12
your blog post sounds like a spam email trying to sell penis enlargement apm improvement secrets
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 30 2008 01:52 GMT
#13
Can you just spill it already for all us poor TL.netizens? plz? T_T
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 30 2008 01:52 GMT
#14
......... lol
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 30 2008 01:52 GMT
#15
seriously, wtf is up with this post... congrats on your motherfucking secret, i guess
emily
Profile Joined May 2008
17 Posts
May 30 2008 01:53 GMT
#16
So you condemn the 300+ apm foreigners who 'sacrifice alot' to get that high, but you openly admit that you've focused extensively on raising your apm instead of working on your strategic insight
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
May 30 2008 01:53 GMT
#17
awesome read and good laugh
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 30 2008 01:54 GMT
#18
On May 30 2008 10:47 azndsh wrote:
your blog post sounds like a spam email trying to sell penis enlargement apm improvement secrets


lol
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 30 2008 01:55 GMT
#19
post your discovery or shut the fuck up

seriously what the hell is the point of saying 'hurrr hrur i know something you dont know'
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 30 2008 01:55 GMT
#20
Can you teach me the apm secret?
I wanna improve on my 100 apm plz.
PLLZzzzzzzzzzz
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
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