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MorningWood
United States78 Posts
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Tarmak_mk
Macedonia410 Posts
btw maybe he play vs some other korean pro and lose match's but dunno anyway i think savior will pwnz too and he is not playing now | ||
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Tarmak_mk
Macedonia410 Posts
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On June 14 2007 13:55 GongKyuckTerran wrote: no antihack and this server full of hackers... even god can lose ... you forget that god has the "all seeing/all knowing" hack | ||
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wXs.Havok
Argentina529 Posts
On June 15 2007 08:31 Tarmak_mk wrote: well Testie i think that on no anti-hack server even and savior can lose.... no, he wouldnt lose. Its not like an auto aim like in counter strike. its just map vision. You would probably freak out all the time seeing that you cant keep up with him and eventually lose anyway. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On June 15 2007 09:38 wXs.Havok wrote: no, he wouldnt lose. Its not like an auto aim like in counter strike. its just map vision. You would probably freak out all the time seeing that you cant keep up with him and eventually lose anyway. Savior isn't immortal... If he played 20-30 games, all with people using map hack, I'm pretty sure he would lose at least three or four of them. But then again, you guys are just paranoid. I don't think there is that many hackers on iCCup, it was the same whining with Abyss and even though I played a lot there I never noticed anything. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
He loses a lot of practice games... vs high caliber professional gamers like Iris who have extraordinary talent and play for 10 hours a day. Not vs Joe Schmoe on the internet. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
They can keep their probes/scvs/drones basicaly as long in your main as they want to. Even one or two ranged units wont stop it that fast.. They basicaly play as if they had hack on,.. because they simply scout everything and the stuff they dont scout .. they just know or ''feel''.. IF someone hacks vs savior he needs still to have a very very high level in order to win. Its not like some PGT C+ up To A guy can turn on hack and win vs savior. Its a bit more complicated ; ) Testie would probably win vs savior if he played with hack on so would mondi and draco and a few other top notch gamers but to the rest.. i think a hack wont help you vs savior.. lol gives u maybe 10/100 chance instead of 1/100 ... | ||
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Tarmak_mk
Macedonia410 Posts
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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GongKyuckTerran
Croatia1096 Posts
[B] IF someone hacks vs savior he needs still to have a very very high level in order to win. Its not like some PGT C+ up To A guy can turn on hack and win vs savior. Its a bit more complicated ; ) Testie would probably win vs savior if he played with hack on so would mondi and draco and a few other top notch gamers but to the rest.. i think a hack wont help you vs savior.. lol did u watch that game themoon[light] aka syndicate vs light[alive] ? this guy have 2% understanding for the game.. he could finish light X times in that game,dunno if he didnt want or he is just brainless.. did u ever played bo3 on (4 player map) zvz vs map hacker who have good understanding for game ? yes savior is awesome x 100 player, but i think u overrating him vs map hack... | ||
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shemakesme
United Kingdom87 Posts
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Lycaeus
United States1420 Posts
Certain matchups are absolutely disastrous with maphack. Savior would get his ass handed to him out of 20 games 30% of the time if it was a zvz, just because the initial time when it takes to scout is the most crucial and even then, the players have such mobility with zerg air and ground that they can find holes in savior's base or play and take advantage. Other matchups like, tvz and zvp are much harder. Tvz, you have the opportunity of never letting savior expand farther than half the map, while in pvz u probably and most likely will get owned every time. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
geez.. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
You're so very wrong it's painful. You have to be retarded to think Savior could lose 30% of the time to a non-professional. The only players that could beat him 30% of the time with hacking, that aren't pro, are like the top 3 foreign zergs. Maybe top 5. And even then, on LAN, i'd probably put that number a bit lower because Saviors mutas have +1 range hack. He's not playing top foreign zergs. Hell, Sen and Mondi don't even play iccup as far as I know yet. He's not going to lose to the best players in clan x17 over at iccup, even if they hack. The general skill of it now. He doesn't care what players of such a low caliber of skill do. Just don't even continue this discussion anymore. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Jrwriter
Canada76 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
i mean, sure he can micro his drones/units 5X better than any foreigner, but still - its not like his drones can fly. | ||
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Lycaeus
United States1420 Posts
We're not talking about clan x17 people who couldn't beat good foreignors with maphacks, we're talking about "actual" good foreignors who use tactics and strategies with their means of perfect timing and execution with the use of the maphack. Then evens the play field regardless if their macro or micro suck ass. How do u micro a person harassing EVERY weak point of ur play, as soon as you leave, u get attacked, as soon as you defend you get attacked. You're being ignorant in thinking THEY are not prone to making mistakes and losing to other players. for example, this is how retarded a hack can be if they dont care of being caught. What if you simply just send a scout out to where the progamer is and just proxy him from INSIDE, the progamer never saw a scout, doesnt know hes playing a maphacker, PROGAMERS are not psychics, they wouldnt know anything is wrong, luck would have to play. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
If you look at the ladder, you can see that no top foreigners are currently playing around the fake IPXZerg's place right now. You can also note that the skill level is generally low thus far. No high level professional gamer would rack up any significant amount of losses, regardless of the matchup if every single player was hacking at it's current skill in this playing field. Lyc you're changing it all around to win the argument. Now you're making it, "Well if said hacker does this how would he win!?" Sometimes, with simple micro and scouting. Sometimes progamers in a lower field use safe builds, such as 9 pool and use their skill to just control the game. Savior can 9 pool vs any opponent, even top professionals and make a game out of it even if he's behind vs them. In this field, where no real professionals except perhaps 1 or 2 play, he would have no problems. The discussion was over before. It's over now. No one cares, let's get back on topic. | ||
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