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Are JimmyJRaynor and KelianQatar the same person?

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 25 2019 14:48 GMT
#1
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-25 16:33:35
April 25 2019 15:57 GMT
#2
I honestly thought that KelianQatar was instabanned when the first thing the alt account did was to reply a post in support of JimmyJRaynor, about 2 mins right after he posted. I didn't realise that the alt account is still there, posting away. It's very disruptive that someone has alt accounts just posting away trying to steer perceptions in his own favour. It's basically spamming the thread with mulitiple double/triple/more posts, only hiding it. I don't see any reason to allow alt accounts especially with the way JimmyJRaynor uses them.

Btw JimmyJRaynor/KelianQatar, you have got to stop calling women "females". It's kinda creepy. Even more creepy than making an alt account just to agree with yourself.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-25 23:08:32
April 25 2019 22:40 GMT
#3
For the sake of argument I decided to take a look at KelianQatar's posting. Since being unbanned 4 years ago KelianQatar has posted 22 times. Based on this it is obvious that KelianQatar is JimmyJRaynors alt account. Worse it is always used to agree with himself and disagree with other people.

Please forgive the formatting as I want to show that most posts are just JimmyJRaynor and KelianQatar talking and agreeing and asking rhetorical questions of each other.

KelianQatar posts in every thread JimmyJRaynor has been in. The posts are always next to each other, mostly within 10 minutes of each other, or replying to or quoting each other. Except for one thread.

Post 1) After JimmyJRaynor posted, 5 minutes later KelianQatar posted.
Then 4 mins later JimmyJRaynor posted again, agreeing with each other's BS story and quoting each other.
Incidently this was the only KelianQatar post I saw and thought KelianQatar was instantly banned for obvious alt accounting.

Post 2) KelianQatar quoted JimmyJRaynor at February 26 2019 17:21 GMT in the Movie Discussion! thread. 6 minutes later JimmyJRaynor posted in reply.

Post 3) JimmyJRaynor posted at April 02 2019 17:35 BST. KelianQatar quoted JimmyJRaynor at April 02 2019 18:07 BST, some 32 minutes later.

Post 4&5) Apex Legends - F2P Battle Royal thread, posted 2 times, after JimmyJRaynor posted 4 times.
The most innoculous posts out of the lot. It's borderline spam though.

Avilo Fan Club. Thread (I miss SC2 drama)

JimmyJRaynor posted at March 19 2019 13:30 GMT.
KelianQatar posted at March 19 2019 13:45 GMT, quoting JimmyJRaynor, 15 mins later.
JimmyJRaynor posted at March 19 2019 13:52 GMT, quoting KelianQatar, 7 mins later.

The above particular exchange is hilarious btw. Everyone should read it.

Borderlands 3 Thread

On April 02 2019 07:07 KelianQatar wrote: replying to JimmyJRaynor who posted an hour ago.

On April 05 2019 08:15 KelianQatar wrote:
On April 05 2019 08:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote, replying back, 3 mins later.
On April 05 2019 08:26 KelianQatar wrote, quoting and replying back to JimmyJRaynor, 8 mins later.
On April 05 2019 08:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote, replying back to KelianQatar, 4 mins later.

On April 05 2019 23:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote, disagreeing with someone.
On April 07 2019 01:14 KelianQatar wrote: disagreeing with that same person.

On April 08 2019 22:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote
On April 09 2019 07:27 KelianQatar wrote, replying to

On April 24 2019 03:35 KelianQatar wrote, 2 days after JimmyJRaynor last posted, both bumping up the thread 2 days after the last post.

Together they make up a quarter (!) of the posts in the thread, having an entire conversation together at one point.

NBA Season 2018-2019

On March 27 2019 09:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 27 2019 10:55 KelianQatar wrote:
On March 27 2019 11:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

On April 03 2019 02:07 KelianQatar wrote: quoting On April 02 2019 04:17 JimmyJRaynor

On April 03 2019 10:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 03 2019 11:08 KelianQatar wrote: quoting JimmyJRaynor
On April 03 2019 11:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote

On April 14 2019 11:44 KelianQatar wrote
On April 14 2019 11:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote

On April 16 2019 05:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote
On April 16 2019 06:57 KelianQatar wrote: quoting On April 14 2019 06:15 JimmyJRaynor
On April 16 2019 10:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

This one is quite funny becuase JimmyJRaynor just wrote "Thanks for the info!" back to himself.

On April 20 2019 01:05 KelianQatar wrote: arguing with someone in JimmyJRaynor's favour.

On April 20 2019 11:36 KelianQatar wrote
On April 21 2019 02:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote


THE HELL? Alt account is now being used to say someone's post is BS. JimmyJRaynor posts immediately afterwards disagreeing with that poster. JimmyJRaynor is acting as an unbelievable scumbag at this point.

On April 22 2019 10:07 KelianQatar wrote:
On April 22 2019 10:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

On April 24 2019 07:23 KelianQatar wrote: On April 24 2019 00:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

Movie Discussion! Thread

On April 01 2019 10:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote
On April 02 2019 11:10 KelianQatar wrote

I agree Galaxy Quest really is an underrated movie and Sigourney Weaver is hot. No need to make an alt just for JimmyJRaynor discuss with himself what women he finds hot.



JimmyJRaynor is his calm rational knowledgeable man account, and KelianQatar is what he imagines an excitable, forgetful, ignorant woman to be like. What the fuck.

KelianQatar posts in every thread JimmyJRaynor has been in. In all but one thread are the posts next to each other, mostly within 10 minutes of each other, or replying to or quoting each other.

Some are funny because he is having a conversation with himself, others are just creepy and sad and scumbag behaviour like the ones where he uses the alt to push his views and to argue against people.

I don't see any reason as to why JimmyJRaynor wouldn't be banned unless he is secretly bankrolling TL or something. Perhaps the mods think it'll be too difficult to prevent him from rolling another account as he appears to be motivated towards alt accounts. He sure isn't any good at hiding it.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 25 2019 23:21 GMT
#4
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 26 2019 15:30 GMT
#5
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 27 2019 01:45 GMT
#6
it has been obvious for years that he is using alt accounts. Maybe TL mods can do something about it but it would probably just end in more alt accounts.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 19:53:46
April 30 2019 19:46 GMT
#7
Nothing at all mods? JimmyJRaynor is still using his alt account to have conversations with himself where he can continue his fantasy of having special knowledge and information to submissive receptors.

On April 29 2019 06:21 KelianQatar wrote:
What is that thing on Harden's right wrist?
On April 29 2019 06:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I don't know, but Harden has been running around with his left wrist and hand taped up and people have been putting pictures of it on instagram and twitter.
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[image loading]



He could had easily just posted his own post alone without using his alt to pose a question that no-one asked. He's not even hiding he has an alt account at this point. Why allow it to continue?
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 30 2019 20:40 GMT
#8
You guys are way too invested in this. It's possible that it is an alt but not conclusive. As long as he/they aren't shitposting it is not a terribly big deal and if he succesfully tricked me then he can go high five himself
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 21:07:37
April 30 2019 20:43 GMT
#9
You really don't see it as a problem? Apparently one poster already got himself banned for discussing whether or not KelianQatar is an alt, because that alt was being used to disagree against him and agree with JimmyJRaynor in disagreement, which is highly unpleasant and is scumbag behaviour? Should I make alt accounts to disagree with other and agree with myself in other threads too?

And something like this isn't just using your altaccount to shitpost?

JimmyJRaynor wrote:whoever that girl was from Europe. its been so long i can not remember her name. Any how, she was his #1 admin or "head" admin/moderator for a long time. He stated he could not trust any of his Ops/Mods except her so he decided to pay her a small monthly salary and have her control/run/regulate the "mod team" for his channel. i do not think he was paying any other MOD except his #1 head mod but i wasn't paying close enough attention to the silliness to know for sure.

i'm pretty sure several twitch channel broadcasters pay their #1 admin/production person at least some cash. they probably don't discuss it constantly because they don't want to piss off the lower tier admins/mods/production people
KelianQatar wrote:Her name was Maria! I remember!!!
JimmyJRaynor wrote:i wonder if that was her real name or if it was all a bunch of BS. who knows.


He is not only perpetuating some disgusting stereotypes, but was actively trying to deny a person's name to add realism to his story or whatever. Like this is some nasty actions going on here. And it's simply a triple post at best.

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On April 20 2019 01:05 KelianQatar wrote:
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On April 20 2019 00:14 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Anyway, Ty Lue deal is almost done. Wow!


Source?

It looks like its just an interview to me. It does not look like Ty Lue's hiring is imminent.



On April 22 2019 10:07 KelianQatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2019 00:14 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Anyway, Ty Lue deal is almost done. Wow!

is there a source for this or is it just BS?

On April 22 2019 10:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'm marking out on these boxing analogies on TNT
Terrence Ross was -25 today. Kudos to Masai Ujiri for getting more than a bag of hockey pucks and a ham sandwich for this guy.
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2019 10:07 KelianQatar wrote:
On April 20 2019 00:14 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Anyway, Ty Lue deal is almost done. Wow!

is there a source for this or is it just BS?

i didn't see any one claim the Lue hiring was fait accompli.

apparently the interview process is continuing.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26560005/sources-lakers-want-2nd-lue-williams-meetings?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true


Using an alt to disagree with another user. It's almost harrassment at that point, to use multiple posts to disagree with someone, when you could just use one account and one post.

I naturally thought the alt account was automatically banned after an obvious usage in the us pol feedback thread. It offends my sense of "fairness" that JJR continues to use his alt account to support himself. Yeah yeah it's "just" an online forum, but we are all part of the community, we are all emotionally invested some way or another.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17517 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 21:59:42
April 30 2019 21:07 GMT
#10
On May 01 2019 05:40 KadaverBB wrote:
You guys are way too invested in this. It's possible that it is an alt but not conclusive. As long as he/they aren't shitposting it is not a terribly big deal and if he succesfully tricked me then he can go high five himself

I've offered any MOD on TL who wants to jump into Discord and join the NA server they can watch us play 2v2s or team up with us and play some 3v3s in SC2. Or we can play some Borderlands... whichever version of the game you want.

She has an MBA from UVA. I took software engineering at the best engineering school in canada. She knows all the details of what she can and can not divulge about her identity due to her clearance level at the naval base where she works. I head up a tiny 3 person database software dev shop whose primary tool is West Wind Web Connection. She is a former professional day trader. She has a completely different education than I do. She speaks "American"; I speak the Queen's English.

We both play SC2 and Borderlands. We like to play in teams so we often team up together. This is why you'll see us in the same game threads. Other than SC2, Borderlands and Destiny2 we both play a different set of side games. I play EA NHL '94, Super Tecmo Bowl, and Fire Pro Wrestling. She plays an assortment of Clash Of Clans type phone games and Darkest Dungeon.

There are too many differences in knowledge bases, educational backgrounds and life backgrounds to be covered by 1 person.
On April 22 2019 10:07 KelianQatar wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2019 00:14 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Anyway, Ty Lue deal is almost done. Wow!

is there a source for this or is it just BS?



Ty Lue still has not been hired by the LA Lakers. No source has ever been provided to back up this claim.
Asking for a source was a good question. She'd asked for a source twice. The 2nd time she said " or is this BS".
The first time she just politely requested a source with the comment "Source?".

"Ty Lue deal is almost done" is false. Ty Lue is still not hired.and this is going back 10+ days. the Lakers continue to interview prospective head coaches. Also, the Lakers may hire a new Prez in which case they Prez will want their own head coach.

So asking for a source was a proper line of questioning given the chaos of the Lakers' front office situation. TwinkleToes did not answer the first time. She asked a 2nd time. He replied "Source is incoming". No source for this was ever provided.

There is nothing wrong with speculating. Just call it speculation ... or call it a hunch or what you think might happen. To say there is a source on the way and then never produce one? What is the point? If he thinks they are going to hire Ty Lue but has no solid source... just say that.

In any event, I answered her question about the Lakers hiring process as best I could by providing information from Adrian Wojnarowski. Adrian Wojnarowski is a good source.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 21:42:28
April 30 2019 21:28 GMT
#11
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17517 Posts
April 30 2019 22:02 GMT
#12
On May 01 2019 06:28 JimmiC wrote:
You are near impossible to ignore and when you are other names are created to support and talk to you.

KelianQatar is female and she is not me.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 22:39:00
April 30 2019 22:38 GMT
#13
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 01 2019 03:53 GMT
#14
Well, Im closing this down. We have no proof, just circumstance and luckily moderation isn't decided by majority poll or you'd probably be in the dumpster
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 01 2019 03:58 GMT
#15
For the record, I talked to both JJR and Kelian in the past and they're either different people or JJR is really good and tricked me, in which case, good for him.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
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