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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
May 23 2007 05:35 GMT
#81
On May 23 2007 12:21 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 12:17 GongKyuckTerran wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:10 lastshadow wrote:
And as for your second request, i never played with bwlpp because other people w/o couldnt see. I can however post replays if you'd like.


ok post few tvp vs korean toss




Ok...but why must the toss's be korean? Are you saying top-foreigners are that bad?


yeah actually, i must say there is quite a bit difference in skill level between top foreigners and progamer koreans. foreigners aren't bad, they just spend less time gaming than koreans do.
서지훈, XellOs[yG]: the Perfect Terran...이성은, FireBatHero: braQ Terran.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 05:40 GMT
#82
On May 23 2007 14:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
you are young so I wont flame you but listen up dude:

Zpux is a fine player, but beating him or TT1 on longinus does not constitute "top non korean tvp" it means you have potential. But running your mouth on TL.net, posting reps everywhere and generally tooting your own horn non stop is a quick way to become the next nigol, or other no name terran with some actual skill that is completely tarnished by their horrible attitude.

Who the FUCK are these palyers you are name dropping. Terry? myth[shield] ? What the fuck. Who cares? They are nobodies. Get some modesty and let others brag for you. This is kind of pathetic.


i really respect this post incontrol. i honestly do.

However im not trying to brag my skill. im just showing it to go along with the guide that people asked for. Im sorry if i come off as a normal 14 yr punk ass mother fucker. I'm really gm and i tend to be super gm to top foreigners/koreans.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
May 23 2007 05:45 GMT
#83
On May 23 2007 13:31 Ganfei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 12:21 lastshadow wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:17 GongKyuckTerran wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:10 lastshadow wrote:
And as for your second request, i never played with bwlpp because other people w/o couldnt see. I can however post replays if you'd like.


ok post few tvp vs korean toss




Ok...but why must the toss's be korean? Are you saying top-foreigners are that bad?


No, he just the typical person who tries to bring you down for no other reason than to be annoying. Get used to it, it's the internet. Also, if you're not korean and say you're trying out for a korean team, people will automatically assume you're bad. If you haven't played a specific korean they've heard of in that clan, they'll assume you're bad again. What they don't know is that 50% of those "gosu" korean teams like 3.33 are around a C level on PGT. They don't seem to understand that being able to speak Korean is 50% of the tryout for the teams. Why do those teams have 200 members? Because 50% of them are casual teamgamers who kind of suck in the 1:1 sphere. Capo is the perfect example of this. He wants replays vs Myth[Shield] just because he has the Shield tag, even admitting he has no clue if Myth is any good or not. But that clan tag somehow mystifies him into some Korean starcraft god.


lol ganfei? read my post again, cause u completely misundestood my post.
i said hes probably some casual gamer, meaning not every member from well known korean guilds such [shield], sea, [gm] and etc. are starcraft gods.
and i knew myth wasn't particalarly any good, because like i said in the previous post, none of his replays was found on ygclan.com. btw, hes not some new face, so don't quote me and tell me hes probably new unknown gosu.
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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 23 2007 05:45 GMT
#84
how about to people other than the top foreigners/koreans?

pressurepressurepressurepressurepressrue
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 06:00:34
May 23 2007 05:57 GMT
#85
On May 23 2007 14:40 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 14:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
you are young so I wont flame you but listen up dude:

Zpux is a fine player, but beating him or TT1 on longinus does not constitute "top non korean tvp" it means you have potential. But running your mouth on TL.net, posting reps everywhere and generally tooting your own horn non stop is a quick way to become the next nigol, or other no name terran with some actual skill that is completely tarnished by their horrible attitude.

Who the FUCK are these palyers you are name dropping. Terry? myth[shield] ? What the fuck. Who cares? They are nobodies. Get some modesty and let others brag for you. This is kind of pathetic.


i really respect this post incontrol. i honestly do.

However im not trying to brag my skill. im just showing it to go along with the guide that people asked for. Im sorry if i come off as a normal 14 yr punk ass mother fucker. I'm really gm and i tend to be super gm to top foreigners/koreans.


No, your bragging does not go along with the guide whatsoever. We dont care who you can beat, because we can tell how good you are through your reps. You don't have to remind how amazing your are every other post.
Haha alright I guess you are super gm to TOP FOREIGNERS/KOREANS! what about the rest? :D

On May 23 2007 12:01 lastshadow wrote:
Did i not say i have a few bad games?... you picked out the worst macro TvT / and maybe the worst macro TvP -.-


EDIT: I made a mistake versus artosis in the game play, focusing too mcuh on the contain hence it hit my macro. vs ZPuX - you pick out 1 out of our 5 games and flame that one?


Also me/skew have a very different style of play.


Also, don't expect every post to be a compliment. He was just criticizing, not flaming.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 06:33:16
May 23 2007 06:23 GMT
#86
Ok Ok we are completely moving off topic. I want to stay on track and keep the flaming/trash talking out.


Does anyone have any questions on the strategies or replays? If not, i hoped i helped some terrans at least. This will be my last post in this topic, you can PM me if you want me. Bye.


Happy TT1?
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 23 2007 07:31 GMT
#87
On May 23 2007 15:23 lastshadow wrote:
Ok Ok we are completely moving off topic. I want to stay on track and keep the flaming/trash talking out.


Does anyone have any questions on the strategies or replays? If not, i hoped i helped some terrans at least. This will be my last post in this topic, you can PM me if you want me. Bye.


Happy TT1?


do you have replays of you winning against toss in longinus?
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 07:34:29
May 23 2007 07:32 GMT
#88
deleted.

didnt realise it was the beginning of the season
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 23 2007 07:50 GMT
#89
Sorry to burst your bubble Shadow, but your style isn't unique at all. And to be honest I don't know what the fuck gave you the idea it was. If you'd been playing the game for a long time you'd know that for sure. Decent guide though as far as the builds go...but as others mentioned before the way you write it, and the way you talk so highly of yourself makes me hate it.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Ganfei1
Profile Joined January 2007
China667 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 08:14:57
May 23 2007 08:08 GMT
#90
On May 23 2007 14:30 sOnagi[3.33] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 13:31 Ganfei wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:21 lastshadow wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:17 GongKyuckTerran wrote:
On May 23 2007 12:10 lastshadow wrote:
And as for your second request, i never played with bwlpp because other people w/o couldnt see. I can however post replays if you'd like.


ok post few tvp vs korean toss




Ok...but why must the toss's be korean? Are you saying top-foreigners are that bad?


No, he just the typical person who tries to bring you down for no other reason than to be annoying. Get used to it, it's the internet. Also, if you're not korean and say you're trying out for a korean team, people will automatically assume you're bad. If you haven't played a specific korean they've heard of in that clan, they'll assume you're bad again. What they don't know is that 50% of those "gosu" korean teams like 3.33 are around a C level on PGT. They don't seem to understand that being able to speak Korean is 50% of the tryout for the teams. Why do those teams have 200 members? Because 50% of them are casual teamgamers who kind of suck in the 1:1 sphere. Capo is the perfect example of this. He wants replays vs Myth[Shield] just because he has the Shield tag, even admitting he has no clue if Myth is any good or not. But that clan tag somehow mystifies him into some Korean starcraft god.


are you saying 50% of koreans within 3.33 are around a C level on PGT?
just wondering...where'd you get your info? have you played koreans within 3.33?
i'm just curious as to see where you got the information.

edit: just for the record, the koreans i've played with in 3.33 are def. not around C level, some are really good. but i haven't been in 3.33 for a long time, so who knows.


So let's see, you agree with me? Yes I've played plenty of "Koreans in 3.33." And have you played every single Korean in 3.33? Have you even played with 25% of the total membership? Because there are a LOT of people in 3.33. So the Koreans you've played with are good. Did I say there aren't good Koreans in 3.33? Ofc not, because there are plenty of good ones. I said 50% of the massive number of players in 3.33 are not very good at all.

--------------------

I think it's absolutely pathetic for someone to post a big huge guide to try to help out the community and a bunch of clowns come into the thread and start calling him all sorts of fucking names and trying to pick fights with him simply because he said he was trying out for a Korean clan, or whatever other moronic reason the person appears to have. What the fuck? Don't fucking post if your post serves no purpose other than to instigate a pointless fight so that you can look "investigative" or whatever stupid justification your dumbass can come up with.
She prayed for me because she believed I was blind to sin, wanting me to kneel and pray too, because people to whom sin is just a matter of words, to them salvation is just words too.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 08:25 GMT
#91
JESUS FUCKING CHIRST. I MAKE THE GUIDE BECAUSE PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE IT. SO I DID IT FOR THE COMMUNITY/ THE PEOPLE WHO MASS MSGED ME. I STATE MY RECORDS FROM WGT SO I DONT COME OFF AS SOME D+ TERRAN WHO CAN MIMIC BUILDS. AND HERE WE HAVE FUCKING BITCHES COMPLAINING THAT I SEEM TO SAY IM THE BEST FOREIGN TERRAN EVER. I DID NOT SAY THAT.

JUST BECAUSE I FUCKING SAID I WAS TESTING FOR SHIELD MAKES ME TALK AS THOUGH IM THE NEXT ELKY? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? I WILL DELETE THE GUIDE THEN IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT. I LOVE HOW THE FIRST 3 PAGES EVEYRONE LOVES IT. THEN FAGS COME IN BARGING GOING " WHO ARE YOU...YOUR BM" WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HOLY FUCKING SHIT. I NEVER BM'D ANYONE THAT I BEAT. I EVEN SAID TT1 GAME WAS HARD. *SIGH* Please dont post flame comments. seriously i didnt come here for a flame war. or to get recognized. I will ATTEMPT to get recognized in WGT New Season. I am sorry for any BM that might have come out of this.

~ LaStShadOw
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
May 23 2007 08:33 GMT
#92
Guide sucks ass. And as a guy who's written a lot of suckass guides, I know what guides suck ass.

Not that your strats are bad. Don't really care about that. But the way you wrote the guide is awful. Don't use lots of technical terms and abbreviations. And if you abbreviate show the abbreviation in these () before you use it. I can just see you reveling in the techinicality of your guide, thinking how advanced and skilled you sound. Don't do that. It just makes it tougher to read, and it doesn't impress ANYONE.

Formatting sucks balls also. Use bold italics underline whatever.

About what you're saying, it's alright. Gosu that you're 14.
weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
May 23 2007 08:44 GMT
#93
lastshadow cannot take the pressure
even if he DID detect penis - cubEdin
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 08:51:41
May 23 2007 08:50 GMT
#94
On May 23 2007 17:44 weaksauce wrote:
lastshadow cannot take the pressure


its not pressure. its pure annoyance of retarded posters that arent even known.i respect TT1/Inc's posts because i respect them as gamers/people. But idiots who come out of no-where flaming me because they have more posts than me/because im unknown ( where has a ladder been/tourney for me to get known?) Im pretty sure savior's diary states he was unknown then rose to stardom even getting flamed. Not saying that is going to happen with me. But so far theres been 3 gosu posters ; 33% nice people commenting the guide ; 66% bm assholes who think because lastshadow is unknown, he is a horrible horrible player and cant make a guide.


Apparently we will all see when WGT comes around or the GG.Net Tourney for "up and coming" players.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 08:57:30
May 23 2007 08:51 GMT
#95
On May 23 2007 10:01 meRz wrote:
Btw anyone arguing that the 12gas/12 rax sucks obviously knows very little about TvP.

If you 12 gas 12 rax the factory will come faster than 10 barracking and 11 gasing (Or 11 barrack, 12 gas) Early zealots should be no problem unless he 2 gates, in which case you have earlier vultures.


its a terminology thing, some people get 12 rax/gas and 11 rax gas mixed up i think, because you build the rax/gas at 11 supply, you start the 12 immediately after the gas is built. When doing this, the scv used for the rax can build a fac immediately when done.

EDIT: since you can't build a fac before rax is done, this is clearly the fastest way to get factory tech.
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 23 2007 08:54 GMT
#96
lol lastshadow

there's a lot of dicks in this topic, but to be perfectly honest with you, your first post comes off as a little antagonistic and arrogant

the bw community does not look kindly upon people who brag, and though you didn't really act like that, you perhaps did go *slightly* overboard

lots of people still appreciate you taking the time to write something like this. just be careful about how you say things in the future =)
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 23 2007 08:55 GMT
#97
On May :44 weaksauce wrote:
lastshadow cannot take the pressure

i no right
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 09:01 GMT
#98
On May 23 2007 17:54 GrandInquisitor wrote:
lol lastshadow

there's a lot of dicks in this topic, but to be perfectly honest with you, your first post comes off as a little antagonistic and arrogant

the bw community does not look kindly upon people who brag, and though you didn't really act like that, you perhaps did go *slightly* overboard

lots of people still appreciate you taking the time to write something like this. just be careful about how you say things in the future =)



Thank you GrandInquistor, i'll remember to try to not come off so bm or cocky.


^-- Why couldn't you all just say it like him?

So any more reviews on guide? Does anyone want changes or builds updated?
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 23 2007 09:03 GMT
#99
On May 23 2007 17:50 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 17:44 weaksauce wrote:
lastshadow cannot take the pressure


its not pressure. its pure annoyance of retarded posters that arent even known.i respect TT1/Inc's posts because i respect them as gamers/people. But idiots who come out of no-where flaming me because they have more posts than me/because im unknown ( where has a ladder been/tourney for me to get known?) Im pretty sure savior's diary states he was unknown then rose to stardom even getting flamed. Not saying that is going to happen with me. But so far theres been 3 gosu posters ; 33% nice people commenting the guide ; 66% bm assholes who think because lastshadow is unknown, he is a horrible horrible player and cant make a guide.


Apparently we will all see when WGT comes around or the GG.Net Tourney for "up and coming" players.

No one is saying you're a horrible player who can't make a guide. Just that you come across as a 14 yr. old punk ass mother fucker, to use your words
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 09:05 GMT
#100
On May 23 2007 18:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2007 17:50 lastshadow wrote:
On May 23 2007 17:44 weaksauce wrote:
lastshadow cannot take the pressure


its not pressure. its pure annoyance of retarded posters that arent even known.i respect TT1/Inc's posts because i respect them as gamers/people. But idiots who come out of no-where flaming me because they have more posts than me/because im unknown ( where has a ladder been/tourney for me to get known?) Im pretty sure savior's diary states he was unknown then rose to stardom even getting flamed. Not saying that is going to happen with me. But so far theres been 3 gosu posters ; 33% nice people commenting the guide ; 66% bm assholes who think because lastshadow is unknown, he is a horrible horrible player and cant make a guide.


Apparently we will all see when WGT comes around or the GG.Net Tourney for "up and coming" players.

No one is saying you're a horrible player who can't make a guide. Just that you come across as a 14 yr. old punk ass mother fucker, to use your words



Im very very sorry >_<;; i've already said that. I didn't mean to come off like that. i AGAIN apologize. i just am very wordy and like to extend my vocabulary
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