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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
May 22 2007 23:18 GMT
#41
On May 23 2007 01:45 fonger wrote:
fonger's TvX Pwnage Guide:

send your insane shit to his rofltooeasy base and PWN SOME ASS. This is a blend of Fakesteve/Manifesto7 and a little bit of Boxer style, and is completely different from anything I've encountered. I believe I invented it.

As such I dub it "anal rape." Or "tanal rape" as I can also turtle at the same time as attacking with my entire army.

I believe I absolutely rape all the best foreigners, and would prove it if I had the chance to play them, except Nony, who played like a fag with 50 bases and killed me. Twice.

ROFL
Entusman #12
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 22 2007 23:22 GMT
#42
PvP/PvZ - The Purin build
Build a bajillion cannons and just turtle until your opponent falls asleep. Kill him before he wakes up (might be hard to kill someone when all you have are cannons and templar, but that's the challenge of this buid)
Trucy Wright is hot
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
May 22 2007 23:37 GMT
#43
14 cc with a wall and a bunker in wall works very well even on landmap and vs 2 gate goons/fast dt/fast reaver.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
May 22 2007 23:42 GMT
#44
Nice effort Lastshadow!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
May 22 2007 23:45 GMT
#45
nice guide, id like the reps allot, when i try to dl reps from wgt all i get is a page full of jiberish, i wanted to check out how supermachine plays
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 22 2007 23:46 GMT
#46
dropthesky build. this is very gas heavy so 11 rax/gas is needed wallin and tech to 3 ports, build all dships once you get 10 dships go to his base, type "gg doom drop f00l", he'll be scared and leave even though the drops are empty.
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
May 22 2007 23:52 GMT
#47
gotta read this when i get home ;D
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
May 22 2007 23:57 GMT
#48
ok, the jokes stopped being funny after fongers..
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 23 2007 00:35 GMT
#49
On May 23 2007 08:45 BeSiGeR wrote:
nice guide, id like the reps allot, when i try to dl reps from wgt all i get is a page full of jiberish, i wanted to check out how supermachine plays

BeSiGeR have you tried right-click -> save as, instead of just clicking on the rep thing?
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
May 23 2007 00:51 GMT
#50
yeah, it wont work, it saves as some sort of image file or sth, proly firefox isues
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Detonate
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Iceland578 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 00:54:36
May 23 2007 00:53 GMT
#51
mine...wasnt a joke...

I...Am...CARlODGiN!..1..1..1..



inept @ west always up for TMM and 1vs1. TLT3 goGOgOG
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
May 23 2007 01:01 GMT
#52
Btw anyone arguing that the 12gas/12 rax sucks obviously knows very little about TvP.

If you 12 gas 12 rax the factory will come faster than 10 barracking and 11 gasing (Or 11 barrack, 12 gas) Early zealots should be no problem unless he 2 gates, in which case you have earlier vultures.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 01:11 GMT
#53
Hihi everyone. Thank you for the compliments on the thread, i will be editing it later and include replays to each build.

However i don't like the flame going on in this thread on my 12/12 rax features. I will update the thread later when i get home and explain some micro/macro theories.

Also i will be working on a TvT/TvZ pressure guide later...


ALSO : Feel free to ask me ANY questions and i will answer them as soon as possible. PM me if you'd like or msg me on europe under lastshadow / ipxshadow.


Note : My WGT account is now IPXShadOw... however when wgt starts back up it will go back to lastshadow.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 01:16 GMT
#54
http://www.wgtour.com/listGames.php?datab=broodwar&id=323894&type=1v1

^-- Link to my replays in WGT. I have some bad games in there as c3. But mainly you can see my TvP in action.

Again. Feel free to msg me for games or advice on TvP.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
May 23 2007 02:50 GMT
#55
hmm...will take a look at this later on and see how useful it is.
서지훈, XellOs[yG]: the Perfect Terran...이성은, FireBatHero: braQ Terran.
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
May 23 2007 02:58 GMT
#56
On May 23 2007 10:16 lastshadow wrote:
I think my Terran Versus Protoss is my best and most insane matchup. I really do not fear many protoss’ when go into a game. I don’t care who they are as long as they aren’t some progamer. For I think my TvP can contend with the top foreigners ( IMO )


from what i saw in your games u stand 0 chance vs any better foreigner pvt
a)your macro is bad midgame,you said that you play low/mid eco but u play very good eco so your minerals raising so fast and you cant spend them + u have supply errors
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b)u have 200 apm but your mulittasking is bad
c)your micro isnt that good,you have only good micro vulture vs small amout of goons,any player who know how to use 1~2 shuttles will rape your mid game pressing
d)most of your tvp are on longinus where terran is strong mid game,so if toss cant do any early dmg or outmacro you hard there is low options for late game pvt

no offense bro but your tvt and tvz are just lol
i am not expert btw

+ this guy isnt skew 100%
skew have
20 x better tvz
10 x better tvt
and 5 x better tvp
skew rarely have supply errors,he always have 2~3 scv ready to supply until late game 150++
skew have better timing for coming out with 4 factories,
skew have far better tenk/vult micro in small and big groups
skew have same apm like you but far better mutlitasking

hf~




Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-23 03:05:08
May 23 2007 03:01 GMT
#57
Did i not say i have a few bad games?... you picked out the worst macro TvT / and maybe the worst macro TvP -.-


EDIT: I made a mistake versus artosis in the game play, focusing too mcuh on the contain hence it hit my macro. vs ZPuX - you pick out 1 out of our 5 games and flame that one?


Also me/skew have a very different style of play.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
May 23 2007 03:05 GMT
#58
lol so fast reply,are u sitting all day on this thread
can u post some non wgt replays,i prefer some saved with bwlpp
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 23 2007 03:10 GMT
#59
On May 23 2007 12:05 GongKyuckTerran wrote:
lol so fast reply,are u sitting all day on this thread
can u post some non wgt replays,i prefer some saved with bwlpp


Im online and have the following sites on my start bar : Gosugamers.net ; Teamliquid.net ; Youtube ; Wgtour.com ; Broodwar ; AIM. ok?

And as for your second request, i never played with bwlpp because other people w/o couldnt see. I can however post replays if you'd like.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 23 2007 03:12 GMT
#60
Lastshadow is a killer terran, god I played him like three times, never been to stressed out of a game before. He's only like 14, we the same age.


But for the Midas rush, is it a one fact push? And whats FD?
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