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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 15 2007 19:31 GMT
#261
Who care ? It's hard to change our attitude within 4 months :p
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 15 2007 19:32 GMT
#262
i think i've knocked artosis out of many major tournaments, but he's always been consistently insanely nice and well mannered. he not only lost in stride, but complimented me on my play.

cheers to artosis. i <3 you! ^_^
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
April 15 2007 19:33 GMT
#263
On April 16 2007 00:14 ret wrote:
I own skew[media]


My Dutch stallion
Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-15 19:48:31
April 15 2007 19:42 GMT
#264
On April 16 2007 03:10 TreK[cF] wrote:
beast lucky in top3 wcg 2004
testie hacks
trek hacks
elky and smuft fucked everyone over in the korea tournament
tot hates draco

i made some nice topics so now...drama GO!


the one about elky and smuft fucking everyone over in WDT is more like i fucked up the deciding game in the semis vs tomson (yeah, it was a major fuck up, not something i'd just say! tomson by the way a player I have big respect for)

had i not, that random chobo korean thrown at me in the finals by smuft or whatever would've died, hence it's my fault the foreign scene got fucked over!=P

On April 15 2007 17:00 Hot77.iEy wrote:
The problem seems to be that most of the top foreigners, who were healthy in the brain, realized that bw wasnt worth wasting your life, and quit. Or atleast stopped trying too hard. Now what we have left is players who are desperately trying to become good and get a name for themselves. They put so much time and effort into the game only to realize how hard it actually is to become good. These players seem have a very low self esteem. They BM people all the time but are actually angry at themselves because they know their limits and dont have the self-esteem to press toward the next skill level or, better yet, quit the game even if it has long since stopped being any fun.


What i always thought too. It seemed clear that when [GG99]Slayer quit in the spring of 2001 there would never be anyone to come nearly as close to the koreans as he was. The pro-gaming scene had exploded a while back and would just accelerate away from us poor foreigners. After he quit alot of other big names quit or at least stopped caring/trying and the new generation of players or whatever took too long to step up and after that there wasn't much of a chance for anyone to catch up with koreans.

It does help alot tho to just be in the right environment and actually play with koreans on a daily basis, live, not on the internet, that's helpful too but not the same thing at all. I think actually with the right motivation and dedication and also willingness from koreans to actually HELP there would be a handful of foreigners who could become average players on pro-teams at the least. I don't know any of today's players really but except for Slayer and obviously Grrrr..., ret strikes me as a player who could have had a shot if he had gone, Saft too possibly at the right time but as for todays' players...

Today's players don't seem to have the right mentality.
Comfortably Numb
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
April 15 2007 19:44 GMT
#265
OMG Vin(Lmb) you are such a pathetic asslicker. GOD DAMN YOU MAKE ME SICK BOY!
Listen to The Special One
DoA.A_Ngoc
Profile Joined August 2006
Vietnam28 Posts
April 15 2007 19:46 GMT
#266
ArToSis , I love u too ^_^
Am i a Dancer? :)
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
April 15 2007 19:52 GMT
#267
On April 16 2007 00:27 gravity wrote:
I say Idra was entirely in the right here based on what I've seen. The other guy broke the rules of the tournament and got DQed, so what. If this happened in a real sport no-one would criticize Idra. Why does Idra have to give the other guy special favours over and over?

edit: apparently if they actually fully enforced the rules Newface would have been out before he even showed up, so why is it such a big deal that he got the boot after breaking the rules (by disconnecting) twice more?



you dont need to be "anal" over the rules all the fucking time, come on.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
April 15 2007 20:12 GMT
#268
All these mindless faggots who flame after flame and quote every random flames and laugh at it. Build your own opinions based on your personal experiences or encounter before you judge someone you fucktards
1tym is one time for your mind
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 15 2007 20:45 GMT
#269
How could anyone doubt that newface15 is draco after watching the Longius game vs Idra !? All in all idra's TvP isnt that bad and the toss just pwned him !? He had 3 expos running and just smashed the T force with a few units in the beginning and from then on he had such a superb economoy. Additionaly it makes u wonder : Smuft / Rekrul say its Draco. Rekrul makes a thread with the rep and screen. This basicaly made it even more obviously. If draco were in korea , rekrul would probably have obsed the game behind draco ..


So basicaly Idra says : The admin forced him to take the walk over.
I dont know if anyone would have told the admin to rethink his decisions if its in your own favour.. But still it all looks pretty strange, if u see that 2 games. You are like.. woah.. why did this gamer advance when he was quite raped..


thx rekrul
u made my day

xD

p.s : srry @ testie for saying that you use excuses when u lose <3
hatred outlives the hateful
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
April 15 2007 20:55 GMT
#270
its ok, cause he wont win a game in china either. So you might as well start thinking of excuses now kid :|
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 15 2007 20:56 GMT
#271
l33t pic Coral

lololol :>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 15 2007 21:07 GMT
#272
ok
after watching a few ''NEWFace15'' reps i have to say : Draco got pretty good o.O
hatred outlives the hateful
eXe
Profile Joined August 2004
Poland118 Posts
April 15 2007 21:21 GMT
#273
Well what happened is quite sad. Idra was losing 0-1 and after 2nd game it would have been 2-0. Later in the tourney Draco beat him again with 2-0. It means 4 games and (3-0 + 1 99% win unless disc). So does anyone really believe that that day Idra would have won 2 fair games vs Draco?
I personally doubt it.
Idra your main line of defence is time - that you waited for Draco for over 40 min (like Testie admitted) but assuming he would have raped you like he did later i just assume that Draco calculated this just not to wait for the other players to finish theirs games. :D
I won't comment going into DND mode (i just do it when im afraid of dischack).
Another thing worth mentioning is admin's behaviour. In such important tourneys admins should be picked more carefully, they should be able to verify one's advantage in the game - it would spare unnecessary flaming.
Life offers u thousand chances, all u have to do is to take one.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 15 2007 21:41 GMT
#274
On April 16 2007 00:31 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2007 23:38 Metal[x] wrote:
chunjae, you are honestly retarded... -_-
ironic


agreed.
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
April 15 2007 21:46 GMT
#275
rofl, someone just post a pic of idra and win this thread already.
Only communists disconnect.
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
April 15 2007 21:54 GMT
#276
If you think about it, Smuft pretty much got fucked up like ret in that WDT. I mean because of idra going on stupid more, NewFace went to losers bracket -obviously not what Smuft would have wanted-, yet if idra would have been the loser, Smuft would have probably got Top 4.

Smuft


What i always thought too. It seemed clear that when [GG99]Slayer quit in the spring of 2001 there would never be anyone to come nearly as close to the koreans as he was. The pro-gaming scene had exploded a while back and would just accelerate away from us poor foreigners. After he quit alot of other big names quit or at least stopped caring/trying and the new generation of players or whatever took too long to step up and after that there wasn't much of a chance for anyone to catch up with koreans.

It does help alot tho to just be in the right environment and actually play with koreans on a daily basis, live, not on the internet, that's helpful too but not the same thing at all. I think actually with the right motivation and dedication and also willingness from koreans to actually HELP there would be a handful of foreigners who could become average players on pro-teams at the least. I don't know any of today's players really but except for Slayer and obviously Grrrr..., ret strikes me as a player who could have had a shot if he had gone, Saft too possibly at the right time but as for todays' players...

Today's players don't seem to have the right mentality.



I agree. The real good and S-class foreigner players (Maynard, Grrr, Saft, Nazgul, Slayer, Sven, NTT, Elky) retired smartly and at the right time. What we have left now are like B class players. Like rekrul said, how many times had Testie beaten Smuft before ? None. Still at 2007, Smuft comes out of nowhere and 2-0 him ?

Tack about talent.
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
eXe
Profile Joined August 2004
Poland118 Posts
April 15 2007 22:19 GMT
#277
Ah and one more thing ... Idra mentioned his tremendous army of 10 sieges + vults + turrets and the fact than he would smash Draco's natural... well what if Draco wouldn't attack that and instead went with his army straight to Idra's exp? ;D
Life offers u thousand chances, all u have to do is to take one.
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
April 15 2007 22:43 GMT
#278
On April 16 2007 06:46 j0ehoe wrote:
rofl, someone just post a pic of idra and win this thread already.

[image loading]


I win ?
Listen to The Special One
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 15 2007 22:46 GMT
#279
He looks like your average high schooler. Give IdrA a break and quit ragging on his picture unless you have the balls to cough up a picture of yourself.

What IdrA says/does online is one thing, his physical appearance is another thing. Don't be a fucking moron and get the two mixed up.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2007 22:52 GMT
#280
Agreed. No more bs plz.
why so 진지해?
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