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Taidanii
Profile Joined April 2012
United States77 Posts
March 14 2015 20:37 GMT
#1
I haven't seen a thread about this topic yet. As "popular" as he has become and the fact that he's a featured streamer I wanted to see the response from the TeamLiquid community about this reddit post essentially proving Winter uses viewbots.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2yz0kv/wintergaming_uses_viewbots_heres_the_evidence/

Within there is a pretty incriminating reply that one of the Reddit users saved after Winter himself deleted the comment. It appears as an attempt to save face on the issue by claiming ignorance and passing blame to other Twitch users for the viewbots

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 14 2015 20:41 GMT
#2
This thread ain't going to turn well.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 14 2015 20:41 GMT
#3
im sorry what are viewbots? are those the things where you give yourself more viewers, more viewers = more money??
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 14 2015 20:42 GMT
#4
Reddit will find any excuse to hate Winter. They're not really the best source of info.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
March 14 2015 20:43 GMT
#5
didnt twitch themselves look into Winter and say that he is fine, and then back him up with sponsorships and stuff?

Winter is the best streamer, most educational even when smurfing and beating bronzes...its no wonder hes the top viewed streamer above even korean pros
Taidanii
Profile Joined April 2012
United States77 Posts
March 14 2015 20:44 GMT
#6
On March 15 2015 05:42 Solar424 wrote:
Reddit will find any excuse to hate Winter. They're not really the best source of info.


Before any blanket statements like this are taken seriously I would suggest reading the information first.
I love the only good Zerg girl, Scarlett. I also love Stephano. I'm not gay.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 20:46:12
March 14 2015 20:45 GMT
#7
Well, if it's true then he's pretty much done. I tuned into his stream a few times, mostly he was playing against lower level players. Not exactly the kind of content I personally want to see when I watch an SC2 stream.
Generally, viewbotting can be a huge pain in the ass for the whole streaming industry (which is pretty much twitch at this point.) I wonder what twitch is going to do about viewbotting if it really is that rampant as the reddit thread suggests.

But I don't want to judge Winter for anything that hasn't been proven completely.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 20:46:30
March 14 2015 20:46 GMT
#8
Can you leave this stuff on reddit please
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Taidanii
Profile Joined April 2012
United States77 Posts
March 14 2015 20:47 GMT
#9
On March 15 2015 05:46 KelsierSC wrote:
Can you leave this stuff on reddit please


He's a featured streamer on TeamLiquid. I would think if any website warranted the discussion on whether or not there's merit to this it would certainly be here
I love the only good Zerg girl, Scarlett. I also love Stephano. I'm not gay.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 14 2015 20:49 GMT
#10
I always defended him cause i thought twitch wouldn't have made a premium partnership with him if he would viewbot.
But there is really strong evidence now, so yeah.
It raises new questions though: Does twitch really not care?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46516 Posts
March 14 2015 20:49 GMT
#11
Your OP is just a link? Either you need to write up/ paste some extensive stuff, or most people are going to write this off as an arbitrary attack/ low content post, I think.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 20:50:18
March 14 2015 20:49 GMT
#12
On March 15 2015 05:41 Cricketer12 wrote:
im sorry what are viewbots? are those the things where you give yourself more viewers, more viewers = more money??


No, viewbots don't give any ad revenue. The point of viewbotting is to get yourself higher on the list of streamers and therefore get more visibility.

It is more money indirectly, at least in theory.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 14 2015 20:50 GMT
#13
One weird thing is that once week ago he had 7 viewers and 2 minutes later, he had 500. Might be bug but that is weird
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
March 14 2015 20:50 GMT
#14
it was always obvious that his viewers aren't real, the only question is if he botted himself or another person viewbotted him.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
March 14 2015 20:51 GMT
#15
Don't think we need this thread.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 14 2015 20:51 GMT
#16
On March 15 2015 05:47 Taidanii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:46 KelsierSC wrote:
Can you leave this stuff on reddit please


He's a featured streamer on TeamLiquid. I would think if any website warranted the discussion on whether or not there's merit to this it would certainly be here


you're like tainting a decent site with content from....well reddit.

like if I give a shit about some guy viewbotting and want to go call him a douche then I know where to go, but I don't want that shit here.
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