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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 18 2016 05:01 GMT
#2341
Oh yeah Asmo this would be a good time to tell you (if that guy is gonna watch those episodes) you should fix your links to some of them. The Corpse Door ones still don't work.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 18 2016 05:09 GMT
#2342
Right right right. I'll keep that in mind. Damn Twitch for changing those. T_T

Great night tonight! It was fun to have some viewers, but more fun to put ya'll's skills to the test. Your rest is well-deserved, if not potentially undisturbed. :D
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 18 2016 15:29 GMT
#2343
I seriously thought someone was gonna die last night. You know it's a good fight when all of our healing options become exhausted
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 18 2016 16:07 GMT
#2344
It was pretty close. I was getting worried.

Also, I've updated all those links that Wave mentioned above. If people have a moment to check, please see if you can get to the videos for episodes 1-21 via the links.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 18 2016 16:14 GMT
#2345
Worried? You're not a true DM until your party actually dies from making a stupid mistake. Like we do constantly.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 24 2016 20:27 GMT
#2346
The VODS look like they work now.
Also a reminder that we are playing tonight.

Magnar.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 25 2016 03:57 GMT
#2347
Good stuff everyone. Encounter design is hard.

Next time comes the fated dungeon! The Dark Vault awaits!
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 25 2016 12:44 GMT
#2348
We rolled really well, nullifying a lot of what you wanted to do. It's k, mini-bosses are almost always underwhelming

Really pumped for this next dungeon (especially after some of the weird shit in the well) - curious to see if Roger learns anything more about the connection between my necklace and what's going on, and interested in where the necklace takes me next.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 25 2016 17:01 GMT
#2349
It's been a little while since any significant book shenanigans took place. It might be high time.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2016 04:17 GMT
#2350
I honestly have no idea if I want to reformat this for TL, so I guess I'll just post the link for now.

Here's the start to a class I'm designing for 5e. Let me know what you think of the Witch.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 04:55:39
May 30 2016 04:49 GMT
#2351
On May 30 2016 13:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I honestly have no idea if I want to reformat this for TL, so I guess I'll just post the link for now.

Here's the start to a class I'm designing for 5e. Let me know what you think of the Witch.



Skimming: So it's a Sorcerer with better spell-list, and warlock invocation-spell things?

Devastating: When a spell calls for you to roll die for damage, you may add additional die of the same type (d4, d6, etc.) up to your Intelligence modifier to the roll.


Assuming this means.... 1 die total? or can you have 20 INT at level 1 and roll 6d4+1 vs each target for magic missile because it doesn't specify to a single target for multi target spells? Might be a wording issue because die = 1 thing, dice = multiple things.



As written. it's by far the best spellcaster in the game, even before going into the lvl 3 specializations. no other class has as many bonuses AND spells before the specialization, even if it's once/rest it's still like i can cast a magic missile spell once per day that auto kills any enemy or any group of enemies i want. Seems real strong for a level 1 ability. that's the kind of stuff a level 7 or 9 character gets from a specialization. And usually non-spellcasting classes.

The spells tend to be the big draw for spellcasters. the class itself tends not to do very much. Sorcerers get the most, but have the worst spell list, and they get: a couple AC, resistance to a damage type (kinda) and slight bonus damage to one element, and then metamagic, which is all okay-ish. and thats through 14 levels.

Each of the curses/enhanced rituals/spirit things are so strong i thought they were the specializations. but you get all 3 and then stuff on top. O_O
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2016 05:10 GMT
#2352
Yeah I figured it would be pretty overtuned honestly. The spell list is going to be less martial than wizard is but I wanted to get this out so I just threw that in.

The intent is for this to be a lot of minor control with some HIGH BURST moments, especially if you prepare well. So yeah seems like I already need to focus on those moments more (as opposed to all the time).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 16:16:49
May 30 2016 14:19 GMT
#2353
From a thematic standpoint, it seems really weird to me that the ability "enhanced ritual" has no gameplay relationship to actual ritual casting. It doesn't use the ritual tag and it doesn't use the ritual fixed casting time of 10 minutes (which is supposed to balance out the fact that rituals don't take spell slots by forcing them to only be usable out of combat).

In fact, despite the fact the ostensible flavor connection between witches and rituals, the class has starkly little connection to ritual casting in general, but rather has a comparatively large emphasis on on-the-spot abilities. The gameplay doesn't match the flavor. In my mind the Witch ability list would have much greater emphasis on rituals and out-of-combat spells and would be a relatively poor direct combatant compared to the Wizard or the Sorcerer.

On May 30 2016 13:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
Assuming this means.... 1 die total? or can you have 20 INT at level 1 and roll 6d4+1 vs each target for magic missile because it doesn't specify to a single target for multi target spells? Might be a wording issue because die = 1 thing, dice = multiple things.

Warmage in 3rd Ed. has a similar ability that was errata-ed to "only affects 1 target for multi-target spells" because spells like MM become silly.

EDIT: Also, I'm just going to say that having a permanent, free Sonorous Hum at level 2 is just outright too powerful for 5th Edition. Split Focus just has to go entirely. Concentration-duration is a balance tool for spells that sees a lot more use in 5E, and being able to maintain a second Concentration spell was already powerful in 3rd Edition as a one-spell-per-cast 3rd level spell. There's just no way that you can balance making that essentially an at-will ability at level 2.

The spirit effects in general are equivalent in power to 3rd Edition metamagic feats, which required increasing the effective level of the spell they applied to be balanced. Getting access to all of them immediately with no drawback is insane.

Additionally, as a rule anything that duplicates spells needs to specify how it handles material components, both thematically and within the rules.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2016 17:03 GMT
#2354
I did originally want to make enhanced rituals REALLY be part of rituals, so maybe I just need to go back to the drawing board and try to make that work.

Your point about Concentration is taken Yango. That should go. It just seemed so cool. :D
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 18:46:03
May 30 2016 18:44 GMT
#2355
Sonorous Hum is a cool spell, it's just that it's massively too powerful as an early at-will ability.

As an X-times-per-rest (short or long) ability available at higher level, it could be fair.

It basically exists as a powerful-but-not-broken 3rd level spell in 3.5E, which should give you a benchmark for where to tune it as a class ability in 5E. In general all the Spirit abilities need to have a cost associated with them because they're too powerful to be "free".
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 19:09:00
May 30 2016 19:07 GMT
#2356
On May 31 2016 03:44 TheYango wrote:
Sonorous Hum is a cool spell, it's just that it's massively too powerful as an early at-will ability.

As an X-times-per-rest (short or long) ability available at higher level, it could be fair.

It basically exists as a powerful-but-not-broken 3rd level spell in 3.5E, which should give you a benchmark for where to tune it as a class ability in 5E. In general all the Spirit abilities need to have a cost associated with them because they're too powerful to be "free".


It is only possible 2x per LR as it is now (increasing at higher levels) if that wasn't clear from the document, but even so it's still probably too low of a level.

Edit: It's becoming clear that I did not correctly communicate those spirit abilities because my intent was that you got 2/LR for the first 5 levels, then 3, 4, etc. as shown on the class chart (well... at higher levels a class chart would show that).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 30 2016 19:48 GMT
#2357
On May 31 2016 04:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On May 31 2016 03:44 TheYango wrote:
Sonorous Hum is a cool spell, it's just that it's massively too powerful as an early at-will ability.

As an X-times-per-rest (short or long) ability available at higher level, it could be fair.

It basically exists as a powerful-but-not-broken 3rd level spell in 3.5E, which should give you a benchmark for where to tune it as a class ability in 5E. In general all the Spirit abilities need to have a cost associated with them because they're too powerful to be "free".


It is only possible 2x per LR as it is now (increasing at higher levels) if that wasn't clear from the document, but even so it's still probably too low of a level.

Edit: It's becoming clear that I did not correctly communicate those spirit abilities because my intent was that you got 2/LR for the first 5 levels, then 3, 4, etc. as shown on the class chart (well... at higher levels a class chart would show that).

It was clear to me....
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 19:18:52
May 31 2016 19:18 GMT
#2358
Also, Riot delves a little deeper into cosmic horror
Why do I love this shit so much

https://www.facebook.com/leagueoflegends/videos/vb.82061850555/10157205767880556/?type=2&theater
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 31 2016 19:49 GMT
#2359
I guess you're just wrong in the head.

You're in great company.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 31 2016 21:55 GMT
#2360
Beudurvdjiceviaodjvbrjdibfbf

Fucking dark vault hype

I love DND night
Especially when dungeons are involved
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