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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:48 GMT
#11161
On October 20 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When you guys start talking players it makes me realize how little I actually know about this scene.

cmon SGTK, get it together man!
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:49 GMT
#11162
On October 20 2014 09:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I can't believe that of all people, Revival is the only zerg to have beaten San this year. A literal god, Tasteless.

when did revival beat san? wtf
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 00:49:39
October 20 2014 00:49 GMT
#11163
On October 20 2014 09:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I can't believe that of all people, Revival is the only zerg to have beaten San this year. A literal god, Tasteless.

Jaedong beat him in ATC
Edit: Starbuck beat him twice
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 20 2014 00:49 GMT
#11164
On October 20 2014 09:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I can't believe that of all people, Revival is the only zerg to have beaten San this year. A literal god, Tasteless.

when did revival beat san? wtf

WEC qualifiers
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TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 00:50:52
October 20 2014 00:49 GMT
#11165
On October 20 2014 09:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:46 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:44 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:42 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:37 The_Templar wrote:
[quote]
San has dropped plenty of maps though.

clearly not to life though

I'm pretty sure that after seeing the brackets, Life put his ZvP first and his ZvT later and is practicing the former like a madman.

San plays a completely different style than Zest though

I agree that it's likely San crushes Life, and that Life is preparing for specifically Zest. But how good is San's style when it's been prepared for?

still unbeatable lol, maybe even more so

Well, I've only seen his games vs Golden and I don't generally study VODs, so I wouldn't actually know >.>
He looked very vulnerable against Golden

when San hit his resurgence last year, the first noticeable thing was his unimaginable prowess in PvZ

I was looking with zealously and I believe San's PvZ is the highest single matchup win rate of any player in Blizzcon for 2014 but we may have missed something. Still impressively high

what about life/soo ZvZ?

Life just passed him by .03% in ZvZ by beating Revival 2-0 in the 32 boys 1 cup qualifier. This happened after I talked to Zealously so I guess it slightly changed since then

San PvZ 75.49%
Life ZvZ 75.52%
soO ZvZ only 59.51%
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:50 GMT
#11166
On October 20 2014 09:49 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I can't believe that of all people, Revival is the only zerg to have beaten San this year. A literal god, Tasteless.

when did revival beat san? wtf

WEC qualifiers

oh, crazy shit happens in qualifiers...
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 00:51:20
October 20 2014 00:51 GMT
#11167
On October 20 2014 09:49 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:46 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:44 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:42 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
[quote]
clearly not to life though

I'm pretty sure that after seeing the brackets, Life put his ZvP first and his ZvT later and is practicing the former like a madman.

San plays a completely different style than Zest though

I agree that it's likely San crushes Life, and that Life is preparing for specifically Zest. But how good is San's style when it's been prepared for?

still unbeatable lol, maybe even more so

Well, I've only seen his games vs Golden and I don't generally study VODs, so I wouldn't actually know >.>
He looked very vulnerable against Golden

when San hit his resurgence last year, the first noticeable thing was his unimaginable prowess in PvZ

I was looking with zealously and I believe San's PvZ is the highest single matchup win rate of any player in Blizzcon for 2014 but we may have missed something. Still impressively high

what about life/soo ZvZ?

Life just passed him by .03% in ZvZ by beating Revival 2-0 in the 32 boys 1 cup qualifier. This happened after I talked to Zealously so I guess it slightly changed since then

San PvZ 75.49%
Life ZvZ 75.52%

Life's aligulac page says 72.52? This is in 2014 right?
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:52 GMT
#11168
On October 20 2014 09:49 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:46 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:44 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:42 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
[quote]
clearly not to life though

I'm pretty sure that after seeing the brackets, Life put his ZvP first and his ZvT later and is practicing the former like a madman.

San plays a completely different style than Zest though

I agree that it's likely San crushes Life, and that Life is preparing for specifically Zest. But how good is San's style when it's been prepared for?

still unbeatable lol, maybe even more so

Well, I've only seen his games vs Golden and I don't generally study VODs, so I wouldn't actually know >.>
He looked very vulnerable against Golden

when San hit his resurgence last year, the first noticeable thing was his unimaginable prowess in PvZ

I was looking with zealously and I believe San's PvZ is the highest single matchup win rate of any player in Blizzcon for 2014 but we may have missed something. Still impressively high

what about life/soo ZvZ?

Life just passed him by .03% in ZvZ by beating Revival 2-0 in the 32 boys 1 cup qualifier. This happened after I talked to Zealously so I guess it slightly changed since then

San PvZ 75.49%
Life ZvZ 75.52%
soO ZvZ only 59.51%

ah, and holy shit that soO zvz dissapointment
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 20 2014 00:52 GMT
#11169
On October 20 2014 09:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:46 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:44 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:42 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 Shellshock wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
[quote]
I'm pretty sure that after seeing the brackets, Life put his ZvP first and his ZvT later and is practicing the former like a madman.

San plays a completely different style than Zest though

I agree that it's likely San crushes Life, and that Life is preparing for specifically Zest. But how good is San's style when it's been prepared for?

still unbeatable lol, maybe even more so

Well, I've only seen his games vs Golden and I don't generally study VODs, so I wouldn't actually know >.>
He looked very vulnerable against Golden

when San hit his resurgence last year, the first noticeable thing was his unimaginable prowess in PvZ

I was looking with zealously and I believe San's PvZ is the highest single matchup win rate of any player in Blizzcon for 2014 but we may have missed something. Still impressively high

what about life/soo ZvZ?

Life just passed him by .03% in ZvZ by beating Revival 2-0 in the 32 boys 1 cup qualifier. This happened after I talked to Zealously so I guess it slightly changed since then

San PvZ 75.49%
Life ZvZ 75.52%

Life's aligulac page says 72.52? This is in 2014 right?

yeah in map win %
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 72.52% (95-36)
Matches: 78.85% (41-11)

Current form:
      W L W W W L W W L W
Recent matches:
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Revival
       kr Life 0 – 1 no TargA
       kr Life 1 – 0 no TargA
       kr Life 1 – 0 no Snute
       kr Life 0 – 1 no Snute
       kr Life 1 – 0 no Snute
       kr Life 2 – 0 de MiLoRd
       kr Life 1 – 0 cz TomikuS
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Dark
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr NAKSEO


Filters:
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Opponent Race:    Zerg
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 20 2014 00:53 GMT
#11170
On October 20 2014 09:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When you guys start talking players it makes me realize how little I actually know about this scene.

cmon SGTK, get it together man!

I just can't talk facts like these guys can. I barely remember games after i watch them
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 20 2014 00:54 GMT
#11171
On October 20 2014 09:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When you guys start talking players it makes me realize how little I actually know about this scene.

cmon SGTK, get it together man!

I just can't talk facts like these guys can. I barely remember games after i watch them

I find myself using liquipedia/aligulac a lot
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TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 00:58:18
October 20 2014 00:56 GMT
#11172
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


Life's two worst nemeses in map score head to head are TaeJa (-13) and San (-10)

He is 12-16 all time vs Innovation but is 5-11 vs him in 2014
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TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:57 GMT
#11173
fucking kangho...why you gotta 2-0 drg man D:
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:58 GMT
#11174
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

wow, but in 2012/early 2013 he was better vs terran though right?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 20 2014 00:58 GMT
#11175
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


Life's two worst nemeses in map score head to head are TaeJa (-13) and San (-10)

He is 12-16 all time vs Innovation but is 5-11 vs him in 2014

He got pretty much the worst possible bracket then, didn't he?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 20 2014 00:58 GMT
#11176
On October 20 2014 09:58 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

wow, but in 2012/early 2013 he was better vs terran though right?

yeah weird coincidence
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 00:59 GMT
#11177
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


Life's two worst nemeses in map score head to head are TaeJa (-13) and San (-10)

He is 12-16 all time vs Innovation but is 5-11 vs him in 2014

for some reason i thought he was up vs inno
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 20 2014 00:59 GMT
#11178
On October 20 2014 09:58 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


Life's two worst nemeses in map score head to head are TaeJa (-13) and San (-10)

He is 12-16 all time vs Innovation but is 5-11 vs him in 2014

He got pretty much the worst possible bracket then, didn't he?

yeah if you add in that he's been stomped by zest and soO this year pretty much the only person on his half he would be favored against is jjakji
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 20 2014 01:00 GMT
#11179
On October 20 2014 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:58 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

wow, but in 2012/early 2013 he was better vs terran though right?

yeah weird coincidence

not really, same happened with drg, when he started to come back he was better vs toss, see that up/down group that gave him the nestea award by what i mean
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 20 2014 01:00 GMT
#11180
On October 20 2014 09:59 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
surprisingly ZvP isn't Life's worst matchup vs Koreans. It's ZvT. Not just because of recently either. It's been pretty consistently average throughout the year. He's lucky he can dodge terran until the Ro4 but it seems unlikely that he would be able to beat INnoVation or TaeJa

+ Show Spoiler +
Results for kr Life after 2014-01-01.

Games: 51.16% (44-42)
Matches: 51.43% (18-17)

Current form:
      W L L L W L W L W L
Recent matches:
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr Center
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr MMA
       kr Life 2 – 0 kr aLive
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr GuMiho
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Bbyong
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Life 0 – 3 kr INnoVation
       kr Life 1 – 2 kr Center
       kr Life 2 – 1 kr Hack


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Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: South Korea
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Life's two worst nemeses in map score head to head are TaeJa (-13) and San (-10)

He is 12-16 all time vs Innovation but is 5-11 vs him in 2014

for some reason i thought he was up vs inno

He beat him in 2 Bo3 2-1 but lost to him in 3 Bo5 with 2 0-3 losses. He was up before this year
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