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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 06:58 GMT
#41
Actually, having a contract makes you a progamer.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:01 GMT
#42
you do realize this is just your opinion right?
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:15 GMT
#43
Pro - professional - profession. You make a living off your PROFESSION. Hard to do that without a contract... and even if you win some big tournaments, thats not enough to make a living off.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:19 GMT
#44
People can have more than one profession, because they dont make enough money off of just one.
Therefore a pro gamer could be someone who makes money from gaming.

Slayer made 17000 dollars from bw. Thats quite a bit.

Once again, good job.

ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:21 GMT
#45
17,000 is not enough to live off. Most Toyota's cost more than that.

Hey, I make money off webdesign. Does that make me a pro web-designer?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:23 GMT
#46
k
you want to be right really bad
so ill repeat it again:

" People can have more than one profession, because they dont make enough money off of just one.
Therefore a pro gamer could be someone who makes money from gaming. "

btw, alot of players in korea, even the ones that have a pro gaming license, make less than 17,000 dollars a year.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:24 GMT
#47
Way to skirt around the edges of my question. I make money from webdesign, so am I a pro web-designer? Its a pretty simple question man. By your logic, I apparently would be... so, what is it? Yes or no?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:26 GMT
#48
uh, yes, obviously you would be.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-28 07:38:04
May 28 2003 07:31 GMT
#49
ObsoleteLogic you really have no clue whatsoever

If you want to go purely by fact then here it goes. Contracted players who have been/are in Korea:

Elky (AMD)
Grrrr... (AMD)
myself (pG)
Legionnaire (iVenture)
Razor (iVenture)
Maynard (whatever)

I'm not sure about Thor and Pillars, but I thought they had a contract as well. They have lived in Korea that's for sure.

Shutting up about stuff you don't know anything about would be the smartest thing to do.
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:31 GMT
#50
Professional -
n.
1. A person following a profession, especially a learned profession.
2. One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation.
3. A skilled practitioner; an expert.

None of those apply to me; I'm 17, still living at home, so obviously I can't be earning my living if it is still provided for me by my parents. I'm not necessarily *following* a profession, as I'm just doing it to pick up spare cash. I am NOT a professional web-designer, but I do make cash from it.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-28 07:34:03
May 28 2003 07:32 GMT
#51
Well, that was coming on a little strong, wasn't it Naz? People jump on me for stating what I, in honest ignorance, didn't know to be false, but no tongue-lashing for ilnp?

I never said it was fact, either. I said I believe. Eroneous beliefs make someone an idiot, because they don't hang around pro-gamers all the time?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:33 GMT
#52
you left out a definition, because it didnt suit you
- thanks to dictionary.com

3.) Performed by persons receiving pay: professional football.

pwned
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:34 GMT
#53
because you kept arguing when you were wrong, idiot

and you were arguing solely because you wanted to be right
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:34 GMT
#54
Travis, thats professional as an adjective.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 28 2003 07:34 GMT
#55
Then there's of course also

NTT (3rd WCGC)
Slayer (1st KBK)
Blackman (3rd WCG)

for non-contracted players
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-28 07:38:22
May 28 2003 07:36 GMT
#56
On May 28 2003 16:32 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Well, that was coming on a little strong, wasn't it Naz? People jump on me for stating what I, in honest ignorance, didn't know to be false, but no tongue-lashing for ilnp?

I never said it was fact, either. I said I believe. Eroneous beliefs make someone an idiot, because they don't hang around pro-gamers all the time?

ilnp knows I don't agree with any of his visions of BW, no need to tell him that AGAIN

and yea I was a bit too harsh, edited my message
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:37 GMT
#57
GOD YOU ARE STUPID

if i say, i am a happy gamer, happy could be an adjective, or happy gamer, as a single entity, is a noun.

If I say professional gamer, professional is an adjective, or professional gamer, as a single etity, is a noun.

When you say "i am a small person", small isnt a noun.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 28 2003 07:39 GMT
#58
Naz, you have to understand something - I did not even know of pro-gaming, as it is, until 5 months ago. I have followed it increasingly since then, but didn't do too much checking into its past. I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else, somehow. I didn't even pay any attention to the elite scene of BW for 3 years. When you're out of the loop for that long, you're bound to get some information wrong or confused.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 28 2003 07:40 GMT
#59
hey try to argue what i said again
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-28 07:44:47
May 28 2003 07:42 GMT
#60
On May 28 2003 16:37 travis wrote:
If I say professional gamer, professional is an adjective, or professional gamer, as a single entity*, is a noun.


So then why're you bringing up the whole business with the adjective?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
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