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creation of some sort of flexible response force specialized in crowd control situations might be nice; but it'd be politically and practically much harder in the US. While the principles are the same, with the law varying by state, it'd be hard to have such a force cross state lines; and the friction between jurisdictions might well rise considerably from the kind of overrides that would be necessary to have such a thing. Bringing in the feds to do that tends to make the locals even more touchy, especially in the South.
Some parts of the country might just not have such things occur enough to justify such a force as well (where would they be based, how often would they be used, what would they do when they're not needed). And of course, the perennial issues with finding the budget for it, especially seeing how much state and local budgets are tight.
And of course it's not like there's no system for if things get really out of control; if that happens the state Governors can call in the states' National Guard. They just don't that preemptively for mere policing, they only do that if it really gets to full scale rioting. It's hard to predict how bad something is gonna turn out beforehand, and how much force you're gonna need on hand.
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On August 28 2017 04:23 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
remember when we had a functioning state department?
Don't worry, Trump and his goons are handling diplomacy.
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The reason why police from other areas don't come in as instantly is because of the question of who would pay for the cops and the legal jurisdiction questions, with some questions of the union contracts with one city and then that city negotiating with other cities to share police departments making things really complex not to mention technical issues of some cities radios legitimately not working with others (you think I'm kidding but the stories I've heard). Most of these get solved really really easily if the preparations are made ahead of time but if you need anything more then a handful of police it can get really hard to do anything.
It wouldn't really be hard to make a specific protest/riot reaction force politically especially if its done on the federal level as they consult with the permits for these events the problem would be the logistics/cost of what the force actually is. Are you going to hire enough people to cover the nation or are you going to ship them around the nation? The FBI can cross state lines really easily and has made things a lot better over the last hundred years by putting a lot of manpower and science on things but its a completly different model if you don't always have something for them to do.
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Cause what the area needs is more law enforcement side tracked to protect this asshole instead of helping out the affected areas.
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But how are they going to get past the big beautiful wall Trump built and they paid for?
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On August 28 2017 05:30 Doodsmack wrote:Don't worry, Trump and his goons are handling diplomacy.
Counterpoint: no they are not. Trump speaks for himself.
“I don’t believe anyone doubts the American people’s values or the commitment of the American government or the government’s agencies to advancing those values and defending those values,” Tillerson said on Sunday.
“And the President’s values?” Wallace pressed.
“The President speaks for himself,” Tillerson replied.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tillerson-trump-charlottesville-response-speaks-for-himself
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Tillerson just threw the president under the bus.
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It's apparently just halfway into the forecast.
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Of course. Of course. We need more military equipment in untrained.
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Somebody has to guard the Nazis from violence on all sides.
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And watch as they unload unto a crowd.
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On August 28 2017 08:32 Plansix wrote:
And watch as they unload unto a crowd.
I'd put money it won't be into a nazi crowd.
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They should just bring him import tariffs and how him how much it will cost US consumers. Just cut through the bullshit and bring him the terrible policies he wants.
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armored vehicles, large-caliber weapons, ammunition and other heavy equipment from being re-purposed from foreign battlefields to America's streets.
Nothing stops a riot like strafing people with .50cal
from the foreign battlefields to the streets sounds like some distopian scifi movie intro text
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This shit freaks me out, him trying to actually assert an agenda rather than just blowharding about worries me. He hasnt been able to do TOO much lasting damage yet, but if he starts feeling like he needs to feel powerful I fully believe he'd start wars and commit war crimes.
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Black-clad anarchists on Sunday stormed into what had been a largely peaceful Berkeley protest against hate and attacked at least five people, including the leader of a politically conservative group who canceled an event a day earlier in San Francisco amid fears of violence.
The group of more than 100 hooded protesters, with shields emblazoned with the words "no hate" and waving a flag identifying themselves as anarchists, busted through police lines, avoiding security checks by officers to take away possible weapons. Then the anarchists blended with a crowd of 2,000 largely peaceful protesters who turned up to demonstrate in a "Rally Against Hate" opposed to a much smaller gathering of right-wing protesters.
Berkeley police chief Andrew Greenwood defended how police handled the protest, saying they made a strategic decision to let the anarchists enter to avoid more violence.
Greenwood said "the potential use of force became very problematic" given the thousands of peaceful protesters in the park. Once anarchists arrived, it was clear there would not be dueling protests between left and right so he ordered his officers out of the park and allowed the anarchists to march in.
Chicago Tribune
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