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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 01:33 GMT
#120241
On November 09 2016 10:31 LegalLord wrote:
Austin comes in for the clutch... for probably the last one of the night.

The whole Texas thing (and Virginia, in reverse) really emphasizes the issue here--not with red states vs. blue states, but with Rural America vs. Urban America.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 01:33 GMT
#120242
On November 09 2016 10:32 Disengaged wrote:
The fact its this close is fucking pathetic man

I'm ashamed to be an American.

It's not close, it's just early.

Unless you mean Florida, in which case yes, we all are ashamed of Florida.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
November 09 2016 01:33 GMT
#120243
So if dems were really excited about flordia and they lose, what is this saying for the rest of the country?
Something witty
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 01:33 GMT
#120244
On November 09 2016 10:33 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is currently up on popular vote, interestingly enough. That will change fast when NY and CA come into the picture though.


I imagine he will stay ahead until we sweep to the very west. Without Cali existing, Trump would probably win the popular vote.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
November 09 2016 01:34 GMT
#120245
On November 09 2016 10:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:
How did Reagan manage to win everything anyway. I feel like a hispanic islamic crippled drug addict would not get some of these states like Cali or mid US to switch.

Still interested in seeing how much Trump can close in the rural regions in NC and Ohio, that will be a big decider assuming he can take Florida.

the margins of victory are a ton thinner even in states like California and New york. "its morning in america" after jimmy carter, the Iran hostage crisis going on and you stack the way Reagan was able to rally republicans like a god among men and you get a sweeping landslide.

I mean if hillary actualy had done something illegal and was being tried for crimes, then obama caves into egyption demands about american access to the suez canal. and an actualy good republican canidate and you'd see the same thing easy.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 09 2016 01:34 GMT
#120246
On November 09 2016 10:33 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:31 Plansix wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:
How did Reagan manage to win everything anyway. I feel like a hispanic islamic crippled drug addict would not get some of these states like Cali or mid US to switch.

Still interested in seeing how much Trump can close in the rural regions in NC and Ohio, that will be a big decider assuming he can take Florida.

That was almost 40 years ago and the democrats ran crappy opponents. Also it was a very different time in politics.

I think the economy was bad in 1980.After Reagan got in they had to hike rates to around 17% just to keep inflation under control.

It's all about the economy.

bro the economy is doing good. already talks of overheating
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2016 01:34 GMT
#120247
On November 09 2016 10:33 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:32 Disengaged wrote:
The fact its this close is fucking pathetic man

I'm ashamed to be an American.

It's not close, it's just early.

Unless you mean Florida, in which case yes, we all are ashamed of Florida.

My natural state is to be ashamed of Florida.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
November 09 2016 01:34 GMT
#120248
Trump's up 100k in Florida! And the panhandle is still in line voting!

http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/FederalOffices/Presidential/

It's over Sheeple!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 09 2016 01:34 GMT
#120249
On November 09 2016 10:33 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is currently up on popular vote, interestingly enough. That will change fast when NY and CA come into the picture though.

Yeah, it's just a function of order at this point. California, Oregon and Washington will all deliver strong majorities.
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
November 09 2016 01:35 GMT
#120250
On November 09 2016 10:28 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:24 frazzle wrote:
Guys. Just a warning. If you value your sanity, for God's sake DO NOT turn on CNN.

I feel like this is a given. I have both them and CBC on and it feels like I'm getting two entirely different stories.

I have Fox News, TYT and this LR thread.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 09 2016 01:35 GMT
#120251
On November 09 2016 10:32 Wolfstan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:29 Probe1 wrote:
Preliminary count

Please christ hold steady. I'm very pissed about all the money coming from out of state to tell us not to smoke pot.

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Recreational legalization passed in Mass

Terrific. Anything to put pressure on the federal government to decriminalize it and send it to states to decide.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2016 01:35 GMT
#120252
On November 09 2016 10:35 Wolfstan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:28 Ben... wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:24 frazzle wrote:
Guys. Just a warning. If you value your sanity, for God's sake DO NOT turn on CNN.

I feel like this is a given. I have both them and CBC on and it feels like I'm getting two entirely different stories.

I have Fox News, TYT and this LR thread.

Its NPR for me. I need nothing else.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 01:36 GMT
#120253
On November 09 2016 10:33 IyMoon wrote:
So if dems were really excited about flordia and they lose, what is this saying for the rest of the country?


Not too too much.

For Hillary what she should win from most likely to least is:

Wisconsin > Michigan > Colorado > Penn > NH... NC, Nevada, NC, Ohio and Florida are just a bonus (Arizona, Iowa, and Georgia if Trump really fucked up).
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 09 2016 01:36 GMT
#120254
On November 09 2016 10:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:27 LegalLord wrote:
Trump with the 80% margin in PA. The people have spoken.

lol the percentages on those first 3 counties in philly....


Those percentages beat most results that the communist party was collecting in the former Eastern Bloc some 30 years ago... and there weren't even any alternative options in the elections back then xD
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4866 Posts
November 09 2016 01:36 GMT
#120255
Just a feeling, but the margin in CA is going to be a a sight to behold.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 01:37 GMT
#120256
On November 09 2016 10:34 MasterCynical wrote:
Trump's up 100k in Florida! And the panhandle is still in line voting!

http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/FederalOffices/Presidential/

It's over Sheeple!


Putting aside that Trump winning Florida by 80K is not enough to win him the election, we're still missing two Clinton strongholds that can possibly close a 100K vote differential.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 01:37 GMT
#120257
NC and Ohio closing down to less than 4%. Looking better and better, will be a damn close election.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 09 2016 01:37 GMT
#120258
On November 09 2016 10:34 MasterCynical wrote:
Trump's up 100k in Florida! And the panhandle is still in line voting!

http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/FederalOffices/Presidential/

It's over Sheeple!


troll better lul

User was warned for this post
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4360 Posts
November 09 2016 01:38 GMT
#120259
On November 09 2016 10:34 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:33 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:31 Plansix wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:
How did Reagan manage to win everything anyway. I feel like a hispanic islamic crippled drug addict would not get some of these states like Cali or mid US to switch.

Still interested in seeing how much Trump can close in the rural regions in NC and Ohio, that will be a big decider assuming he can take Florida.

That was almost 40 years ago and the democrats ran crappy opponents. Also it was a very different time in politics.

I think the economy was bad in 1980.After Reagan got in they had to hike rates to around 17% just to keep inflation under control.

It's all about the economy.

bro the economy is doing good. already talks of overheating

I was talking about 1980.
And while I'm sure the US economy is doing well in a few select cities and privileged areas in the majority of the country it's pretty damn weak.Hence the rise of Trumps economic populism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
November 09 2016 01:38 GMT
#120260
On November 09 2016 10:34 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 10:33 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:31 Plansix wrote:
On November 09 2016 10:30 FiWiFaKi wrote:
How did Reagan manage to win everything anyway. I feel like a hispanic islamic crippled drug addict would not get some of these states like Cali or mid US to switch.

Still interested in seeing how much Trump can close in the rural regions in NC and Ohio, that will be a big decider assuming he can take Florida.

That was almost 40 years ago and the democrats ran crappy opponents. Also it was a very different time in politics.

I think the economy was bad in 1980.After Reagan got in they had to hike rates to around 17% just to keep inflation under control.

It's all about the economy.

bro the economy is doing good. already talks of overheating

If the economy was doing good the fed would have hiked intrest rates by now. If anything people are talking about how overvalued the stock market is with QE being hard to understand its effects this far after its done.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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