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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 23 2016 21:14 GMT
#114861
On October 24 2016 06:11 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 05:59 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 04:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presidential election of 2016 has not involved a public policy debate as much as it has chronicled the ongoing struggle of Donald Trump to resemble a sentient and literate human being. As he continues to fail, it becomes increasingly clear that the reality television star, and his group of goblin advisors – Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, Steve Bannon – represent the last gasp of the white conservative baby boomer.

Throughout the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, the straight white male boomer’s story enjoyed cultural hegemony. To live as one of these men was to have an all-access VIP laminate around your neck, and a lifetime permission slip in your pocket. You could view and treat women as toys for your personal amusement, denigrate gay men as freaks fit for the circus, and stratify men of other races into a category of inherent inferiority. Life was good for the white male boomer, but suddenly it all started to end. Uppity blacks started to demand liberty and inclusion. “Nasty” women began to assert themselves as equals, and LGBT people demonstrated themselves to be “normal” folks as capable of achievement and decency as anyone else. Each morning the conservative white boomer wakes up realizing that his story matters a little less than it did the day before.

Faced with the erosion of their cultural power, coinciding with their own mortality, conservative white boomers could adjust and adapt to reality, keeping an open mind to new developments, while welcoming the diversification of American institutions, still cognizant of the amazing run of prosperity and influence they enjoyed. Or they could throw a temper tantrum. Most of them, already detached from the real world, opted for the latter.

The United States currently has the highest standard of living in its history, the longest life expectancy and the most extensive and expansive level of freedom, for all its people, since its foundation as an independent country. Certainly, the persistence of poverty, the draconian “war on drugs,” the garrison quality of the federal budget, and the undue influence of corporate power over political power demand aggressive actions of correction and reform. But they do not culminate in the creation of Dante’s Inferno, especially considering that the United States once enforced Jim Crow, subjugated women into secondary roles and excluded gays from mainstream society. The victories of the left have steadily made America more livable, humane and just. Conservative white boomers, unwilling to look at the totality of progressive change, see only the distance between the authority they currently exert and the authority they once enjoyed. Delusions of grandeur and illusions of the apocalypse cloud their vision.

Barack Obama (in the conservative white boomer view) is not a moderate president who, among his flaws and failures, can claim the accomplishments of presiding over 78 months of consecutive job growth and helping 20 million people acquire health insurance for the first time. He is a black militant usurper of all that is good – a Zulu warrior committed to performing unwanted abortions on every Christian woman. The willingness to address minorities with respectful language is not an enhancement of societal decency and civility; it is “political correctness” gone mad, the suffocation of free speech that will forever end education and destroy the exchange of ideas. The growth in Latino immigrants and other foreign-born citizens is not a continuation of the American tradition of hospitality and diversity; it is an invasion of exotic saboteurs who will demolish America’s economy and cultural norms.

This paranoia is all so silly that it quickly becomes boring, but the more thoughtful citizen cannot ignore it, because it has conquered significant territory in political discourse. Donald Trump, the new god of the white conservative boomer, has based his entire campaign on a forecast of Armageddon. “America is going to hell,” he claims, comparing the United States to the “Third World.” In his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, he likened the entire country to a “divided crime scene.” Typically, rants such as these are only heard from a megaphone held by a maniac on a street corner. Now it is the heart of the Republican pitch to voters across the country, along with allegations that the election is “rigged,” fears that ISIS will “take over this country,” and warnings that soon America will have a “one-party government.”

One of Trump’s favorite conspiracy theories is that the entire media has collaborated to make a fool out of him, as if he weren’t already succeeding beyond anyone’s wildest dreams in that capacity. Much of the mainstream media, however, has aided and abetted his campaign by repeating the whine of the white boomer as if it were legitimate.

The most compelling evidence that the United States is a “hellhole,” according to the mainstream media, is that only one-third of voters, according to various polls, believe that the country is “on the right track.” Demographic specificity exposes the real anxiety underneath the political pessimism.


Source


So are we allowed to post clearly biased articles now? Can I post infowars articles?

Without being too dismissive, I think that most things posted here have a bias. The tendency is to be bias'd towards Hillary Clinton and you can see the posts from Trump supporters feeling raw about it.

This is different from your joke about infowars as infowars isn't bias'd, it's entirely conspiratorial.


Yes, but that article is beyond ridiculous compared to the usual pro HRC posted here.

Infowars is a big site, you can find lots of stuff that are not wacko opinions, but are depicted as such.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 23 2016 21:21 GMT
#114862
I've seen plenty of good stuff from RT, Zerohedge, Infowars, Yahoo News, Salon, Twitter, other websites which are known to be stupidly and idiotically biased, etc. The problem is that the reputation of the website justifiably drags down the perceived quality of their articles (or twits, in the case of Twitter) so it's best just to straight up avoid linking those.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 23 2016 21:21 GMT
#114863
I saw that article before it was posted here and thought it was overly hyperbolic bordering on hysterics. The title has a sort of decent thesis but the body of the article is very overwrought.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 23 2016 21:22 GMT
#114864
Republicans in Congress withstood for months the political turmoil of Donald Trump at the top of their ticket, confident of holding their majorities in the House and Senate despite his unconventional candidacy.

And for a while it appeared that, with smart campaigns and strong fundraising, their optimism was justified.

But Republicans are increasingly worried now that the race has spun beyond their control. They’re issuing pessimistic warnings that Trump has become such a down-ballot drag that the election could flip control of the Senate to Democrats and shrink the GOP’s margin in the House.

It’s not just Trump’s behavior — including allegations of past sexual assault and his refusal to say he would accept the Nov. 8 election outcome — that is making Republican candidates worry.

Democrats have seized the opening, so confident as Hillary Clinton widens her presidential lead that her super PAC has started spending campaign cash in key Senate battlegrounds, with more being considered for the House races.

Republican operatives in congressional races see no easy way to reverse the slide in the time remaining. Nonpartisan analysts agree.

“I used to think there was a narrow path for them to hold on by their fingernails, but I no longer believe that’s true,” said Jennifer Duffy, who analyzes races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. “It’s not a pretty picture.”

Republicans are prepared for a worst-case scenario, particularly in the Senate, where Democrats need to pick up four seats to flip the chamber if Clinton wins the White House, or five if she doesn’t. The math was already in the Democrats’ favor because twice as many Republicans as Democrats are up for election this year.

The best hope is that Republicans can stem their losses with candidates who heeded early warnings not to hitch their prospects to Trump’s volatile presidential campaign.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21652 Posts
October 23 2016 21:33 GMT
#114865
I have to agree with the Republicans in here that articles like the Salon one have no place here anymore then Breitbart or Infowar does.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 23 2016 21:36 GMT
#114866
Salon is essentially left-wing Brietbart anyways
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 23 2016 21:52 GMT
#114867
On October 24 2016 06:14 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:11 Probe1 wrote:
On October 24 2016 05:59 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 04:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presidential election of 2016 has not involved a public policy debate as much as it has chronicled the ongoing struggle of Donald Trump to resemble a sentient and literate human being. As he continues to fail, it becomes increasingly clear that the reality television star, and his group of goblin advisors – Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, Steve Bannon – represent the last gasp of the white conservative baby boomer.

Throughout the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, the straight white male boomer’s story enjoyed cultural hegemony. To live as one of these men was to have an all-access VIP laminate around your neck, and a lifetime permission slip in your pocket. You could view and treat women as toys for your personal amusement, denigrate gay men as freaks fit for the circus, and stratify men of other races into a category of inherent inferiority. Life was good for the white male boomer, but suddenly it all started to end. Uppity blacks started to demand liberty and inclusion. “Nasty” women began to assert themselves as equals, and LGBT people demonstrated themselves to be “normal” folks as capable of achievement and decency as anyone else. Each morning the conservative white boomer wakes up realizing that his story matters a little less than it did the day before.

Faced with the erosion of their cultural power, coinciding with their own mortality, conservative white boomers could adjust and adapt to reality, keeping an open mind to new developments, while welcoming the diversification of American institutions, still cognizant of the amazing run of prosperity and influence they enjoyed. Or they could throw a temper tantrum. Most of them, already detached from the real world, opted for the latter.

The United States currently has the highest standard of living in its history, the longest life expectancy and the most extensive and expansive level of freedom, for all its people, since its foundation as an independent country. Certainly, the persistence of poverty, the draconian “war on drugs,” the garrison quality of the federal budget, and the undue influence of corporate power over political power demand aggressive actions of correction and reform. But they do not culminate in the creation of Dante’s Inferno, especially considering that the United States once enforced Jim Crow, subjugated women into secondary roles and excluded gays from mainstream society. The victories of the left have steadily made America more livable, humane and just. Conservative white boomers, unwilling to look at the totality of progressive change, see only the distance between the authority they currently exert and the authority they once enjoyed. Delusions of grandeur and illusions of the apocalypse cloud their vision.

Barack Obama (in the conservative white boomer view) is not a moderate president who, among his flaws and failures, can claim the accomplishments of presiding over 78 months of consecutive job growth and helping 20 million people acquire health insurance for the first time. He is a black militant usurper of all that is good – a Zulu warrior committed to performing unwanted abortions on every Christian woman. The willingness to address minorities with respectful language is not an enhancement of societal decency and civility; it is “political correctness” gone mad, the suffocation of free speech that will forever end education and destroy the exchange of ideas. The growth in Latino immigrants and other foreign-born citizens is not a continuation of the American tradition of hospitality and diversity; it is an invasion of exotic saboteurs who will demolish America’s economy and cultural norms.

This paranoia is all so silly that it quickly becomes boring, but the more thoughtful citizen cannot ignore it, because it has conquered significant territory in political discourse. Donald Trump, the new god of the white conservative boomer, has based his entire campaign on a forecast of Armageddon. “America is going to hell,” he claims, comparing the United States to the “Third World.” In his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, he likened the entire country to a “divided crime scene.” Typically, rants such as these are only heard from a megaphone held by a maniac on a street corner. Now it is the heart of the Republican pitch to voters across the country, along with allegations that the election is “rigged,” fears that ISIS will “take over this country,” and warnings that soon America will have a “one-party government.”

One of Trump’s favorite conspiracy theories is that the entire media has collaborated to make a fool out of him, as if he weren’t already succeeding beyond anyone’s wildest dreams in that capacity. Much of the mainstream media, however, has aided and abetted his campaign by repeating the whine of the white boomer as if it were legitimate.

The most compelling evidence that the United States is a “hellhole,” according to the mainstream media, is that only one-third of voters, according to various polls, believe that the country is “on the right track.” Demographic specificity exposes the real anxiety underneath the political pessimism.


Source


So are we allowed to post clearly biased articles now? Can I post infowars articles?

Without being too dismissive, I think that most things posted here have a bias. The tendency is to be bias'd towards Hillary Clinton and you can see the posts from Trump supporters feeling raw about it.

This is different from your joke about infowars as infowars isn't bias'd, it's entirely conspiratorial.


Yes, but that article is beyond ridiculous compared to the usual pro HRC posted here.

Infowars is a big site, you can find lots of stuff that are not wacko opinions, but are depicted as such.

The feedback thread contained the discussion on the different set of standards applied to liberal posters and conservative posters, and this is the related hyperbolic left-wing opinion pieces vs right-wing opinion pieces. Its website feedback, and I'll just wait until posts like that get warned up to see if this thread's going in a more equitable direction.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 22:09:37
October 23 2016 22:07 GMT
#114868
On October 24 2016 06:14 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:11 Probe1 wrote:
On October 24 2016 05:59 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 04:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presidential election of 2016 has not involved a public policy debate as much as it has chronicled the ongoing struggle of Donald Trump to resemble a sentient and literate human being. As he continues to fail, it becomes increasingly clear that the reality television star, and his group of goblin advisors – Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, Steve Bannon – represent the last gasp of the white conservative baby boomer.

Throughout the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, the straight white male boomer’s story enjoyed cultural hegemony. To live as one of these men was to have an all-access VIP laminate around your neck, and a lifetime permission slip in your pocket. You could view and treat women as toys for your personal amusement, denigrate gay men as freaks fit for the circus, and stratify men of other races into a category of inherent inferiority. Life was good for the white male boomer, but suddenly it all started to end. Uppity blacks started to demand liberty and inclusion. “Nasty” women began to assert themselves as equals, and LGBT people demonstrated themselves to be “normal” folks as capable of achievement and decency as anyone else. Each morning the conservative white boomer wakes up realizing that his story matters a little less than it did the day before.

Faced with the erosion of their cultural power, coinciding with their own mortality, conservative white boomers could adjust and adapt to reality, keeping an open mind to new developments, while welcoming the diversification of American institutions, still cognizant of the amazing run of prosperity and influence they enjoyed. Or they could throw a temper tantrum. Most of them, already detached from the real world, opted for the latter.

The United States currently has the highest standard of living in its history, the longest life expectancy and the most extensive and expansive level of freedom, for all its people, since its foundation as an independent country. Certainly, the persistence of poverty, the draconian “war on drugs,” the garrison quality of the federal budget, and the undue influence of corporate power over political power demand aggressive actions of correction and reform. But they do not culminate in the creation of Dante’s Inferno, especially considering that the United States once enforced Jim Crow, subjugated women into secondary roles and excluded gays from mainstream society. The victories of the left have steadily made America more livable, humane and just. Conservative white boomers, unwilling to look at the totality of progressive change, see only the distance between the authority they currently exert and the authority they once enjoyed. Delusions of grandeur and illusions of the apocalypse cloud their vision.

Barack Obama (in the conservative white boomer view) is not a moderate president who, among his flaws and failures, can claim the accomplishments of presiding over 78 months of consecutive job growth and helping 20 million people acquire health insurance for the first time. He is a black militant usurper of all that is good – a Zulu warrior committed to performing unwanted abortions on every Christian woman. The willingness to address minorities with respectful language is not an enhancement of societal decency and civility; it is “political correctness” gone mad, the suffocation of free speech that will forever end education and destroy the exchange of ideas. The growth in Latino immigrants and other foreign-born citizens is not a continuation of the American tradition of hospitality and diversity; it is an invasion of exotic saboteurs who will demolish America’s economy and cultural norms.

This paranoia is all so silly that it quickly becomes boring, but the more thoughtful citizen cannot ignore it, because it has conquered significant territory in political discourse. Donald Trump, the new god of the white conservative boomer, has based his entire campaign on a forecast of Armageddon. “America is going to hell,” he claims, comparing the United States to the “Third World.” In his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, he likened the entire country to a “divided crime scene.” Typically, rants such as these are only heard from a megaphone held by a maniac on a street corner. Now it is the heart of the Republican pitch to voters across the country, along with allegations that the election is “rigged,” fears that ISIS will “take over this country,” and warnings that soon America will have a “one-party government.”

One of Trump’s favorite conspiracy theories is that the entire media has collaborated to make a fool out of him, as if he weren’t already succeeding beyond anyone’s wildest dreams in that capacity. Much of the mainstream media, however, has aided and abetted his campaign by repeating the whine of the white boomer as if it were legitimate.

The most compelling evidence that the United States is a “hellhole,” according to the mainstream media, is that only one-third of voters, according to various polls, believe that the country is “on the right track.” Demographic specificity exposes the real anxiety underneath the political pessimism.


Source


So are we allowed to post clearly biased articles now? Can I post infowars articles?

Without being too dismissive, I think that most things posted here have a bias. The tendency is to be bias'd towards Hillary Clinton and you can see the posts from Trump supporters feeling raw about it.

This is different from your joke about infowars as infowars isn't bias'd, it's entirely conspiratorial.


Yes, but that article is beyond ridiculous compared to the usual pro HRC posted here.

Infowars is a big site, you can find lots of stuff that are not wacko opinions, but are depicted as such.

Why would you want to? I mean, I'm sure David Icke also says some true stuff on occasion, but aside from oppositional research (like me reading white supremacist sites on occasion or the occasional site to see how the 9/11 Truthers' insane infighting has digressed [Alex Jones is a government plant, according to many factions, btw]), I don't see why one would regularly frequent a known completely bonkers site unless you have bought into their global conspiracy theories on some level. I don't see it as a matter of left-right divide so much as insane conspiracies vs not-conspiracies.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 23 2016 22:09 GMT
#114869
On October 24 2016 06:52 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:14 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 06:11 Probe1 wrote:
On October 24 2016 05:59 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 04:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presidential election of 2016 has not involved a public policy debate as much as it has chronicled the ongoing struggle of Donald Trump to resemble a sentient and literate human being. As he continues to fail, it becomes increasingly clear that the reality television star, and his group of goblin advisors – Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, Steve Bannon – represent the last gasp of the white conservative baby boomer.

Throughout the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, the straight white male boomer’s story enjoyed cultural hegemony. To live as one of these men was to have an all-access VIP laminate around your neck, and a lifetime permission slip in your pocket. You could view and treat women as toys for your personal amusement, denigrate gay men as freaks fit for the circus, and stratify men of other races into a category of inherent inferiority. Life was good for the white male boomer, but suddenly it all started to end. Uppity blacks started to demand liberty and inclusion. “Nasty” women began to assert themselves as equals, and LGBT people demonstrated themselves to be “normal” folks as capable of achievement and decency as anyone else. Each morning the conservative white boomer wakes up realizing that his story matters a little less than it did the day before.

Faced with the erosion of their cultural power, coinciding with their own mortality, conservative white boomers could adjust and adapt to reality, keeping an open mind to new developments, while welcoming the diversification of American institutions, still cognizant of the amazing run of prosperity and influence they enjoyed. Or they could throw a temper tantrum. Most of them, already detached from the real world, opted for the latter.

The United States currently has the highest standard of living in its history, the longest life expectancy and the most extensive and expansive level of freedom, for all its people, since its foundation as an independent country. Certainly, the persistence of poverty, the draconian “war on drugs,” the garrison quality of the federal budget, and the undue influence of corporate power over political power demand aggressive actions of correction and reform. But they do not culminate in the creation of Dante’s Inferno, especially considering that the United States once enforced Jim Crow, subjugated women into secondary roles and excluded gays from mainstream society. The victories of the left have steadily made America more livable, humane and just. Conservative white boomers, unwilling to look at the totality of progressive change, see only the distance between the authority they currently exert and the authority they once enjoyed. Delusions of grandeur and illusions of the apocalypse cloud their vision.

Barack Obama (in the conservative white boomer view) is not a moderate president who, among his flaws and failures, can claim the accomplishments of presiding over 78 months of consecutive job growth and helping 20 million people acquire health insurance for the first time. He is a black militant usurper of all that is good – a Zulu warrior committed to performing unwanted abortions on every Christian woman. The willingness to address minorities with respectful language is not an enhancement of societal decency and civility; it is “political correctness” gone mad, the suffocation of free speech that will forever end education and destroy the exchange of ideas. The growth in Latino immigrants and other foreign-born citizens is not a continuation of the American tradition of hospitality and diversity; it is an invasion of exotic saboteurs who will demolish America’s economy and cultural norms.

This paranoia is all so silly that it quickly becomes boring, but the more thoughtful citizen cannot ignore it, because it has conquered significant territory in political discourse. Donald Trump, the new god of the white conservative boomer, has based his entire campaign on a forecast of Armageddon. “America is going to hell,” he claims, comparing the United States to the “Third World.” In his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, he likened the entire country to a “divided crime scene.” Typically, rants such as these are only heard from a megaphone held by a maniac on a street corner. Now it is the heart of the Republican pitch to voters across the country, along with allegations that the election is “rigged,” fears that ISIS will “take over this country,” and warnings that soon America will have a “one-party government.”

One of Trump’s favorite conspiracy theories is that the entire media has collaborated to make a fool out of him, as if he weren’t already succeeding beyond anyone’s wildest dreams in that capacity. Much of the mainstream media, however, has aided and abetted his campaign by repeating the whine of the white boomer as if it were legitimate.

The most compelling evidence that the United States is a “hellhole,” according to the mainstream media, is that only one-third of voters, according to various polls, believe that the country is “on the right track.” Demographic specificity exposes the real anxiety underneath the political pessimism.


Source


So are we allowed to post clearly biased articles now? Can I post infowars articles?

Without being too dismissive, I think that most things posted here have a bias. The tendency is to be bias'd towards Hillary Clinton and you can see the posts from Trump supporters feeling raw about it.

This is different from your joke about infowars as infowars isn't bias'd, it's entirely conspiratorial.


Yes, but that article is beyond ridiculous compared to the usual pro HRC posted here.

Infowars is a big site, you can find lots of stuff that are not wacko opinions, but are depicted as such.

The feedback thread contained the discussion on the different set of standards applied to liberal posters and conservative posters, and this is the related hyperbolic left-wing opinion pieces vs right-wing opinion pieces. Its website feedback, and I'll just wait until posts like that get warned up to see if this thread's going in a more equitable direction.

I don't think you get warned for quoting/posting Breitbart etc. on here though, do you? Surely laughed at but I haven't actually seen someone get warned for that kind of stuff oO
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 23:02:17
October 23 2016 23:01 GMT
#114870
On October 24 2016 07:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:52 Danglars wrote:
On October 24 2016 06:14 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 06:11 Probe1 wrote:
On October 24 2016 05:59 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 24 2016 04:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presidential election of 2016 has not involved a public policy debate as much as it has chronicled the ongoing struggle of Donald Trump to resemble a sentient and literate human being. As he continues to fail, it becomes increasingly clear that the reality television star, and his group of goblin advisors – Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, Steve Bannon – represent the last gasp of the white conservative baby boomer.

Throughout the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, the straight white male boomer’s story enjoyed cultural hegemony. To live as one of these men was to have an all-access VIP laminate around your neck, and a lifetime permission slip in your pocket. You could view and treat women as toys for your personal amusement, denigrate gay men as freaks fit for the circus, and stratify men of other races into a category of inherent inferiority. Life was good for the white male boomer, but suddenly it all started to end. Uppity blacks started to demand liberty and inclusion. “Nasty” women began to assert themselves as equals, and LGBT people demonstrated themselves to be “normal” folks as capable of achievement and decency as anyone else. Each morning the conservative white boomer wakes up realizing that his story matters a little less than it did the day before.

Faced with the erosion of their cultural power, coinciding with their own mortality, conservative white boomers could adjust and adapt to reality, keeping an open mind to new developments, while welcoming the diversification of American institutions, still cognizant of the amazing run of prosperity and influence they enjoyed. Or they could throw a temper tantrum. Most of them, already detached from the real world, opted for the latter.

The United States currently has the highest standard of living in its history, the longest life expectancy and the most extensive and expansive level of freedom, for all its people, since its foundation as an independent country. Certainly, the persistence of poverty, the draconian “war on drugs,” the garrison quality of the federal budget, and the undue influence of corporate power over political power demand aggressive actions of correction and reform. But they do not culminate in the creation of Dante’s Inferno, especially considering that the United States once enforced Jim Crow, subjugated women into secondary roles and excluded gays from mainstream society. The victories of the left have steadily made America more livable, humane and just. Conservative white boomers, unwilling to look at the totality of progressive change, see only the distance between the authority they currently exert and the authority they once enjoyed. Delusions of grandeur and illusions of the apocalypse cloud their vision.

Barack Obama (in the conservative white boomer view) is not a moderate president who, among his flaws and failures, can claim the accomplishments of presiding over 78 months of consecutive job growth and helping 20 million people acquire health insurance for the first time. He is a black militant usurper of all that is good – a Zulu warrior committed to performing unwanted abortions on every Christian woman. The willingness to address minorities with respectful language is not an enhancement of societal decency and civility; it is “political correctness” gone mad, the suffocation of free speech that will forever end education and destroy the exchange of ideas. The growth in Latino immigrants and other foreign-born citizens is not a continuation of the American tradition of hospitality and diversity; it is an invasion of exotic saboteurs who will demolish America’s economy and cultural norms.

This paranoia is all so silly that it quickly becomes boring, but the more thoughtful citizen cannot ignore it, because it has conquered significant territory in political discourse. Donald Trump, the new god of the white conservative boomer, has based his entire campaign on a forecast of Armageddon. “America is going to hell,” he claims, comparing the United States to the “Third World.” In his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, he likened the entire country to a “divided crime scene.” Typically, rants such as these are only heard from a megaphone held by a maniac on a street corner. Now it is the heart of the Republican pitch to voters across the country, along with allegations that the election is “rigged,” fears that ISIS will “take over this country,” and warnings that soon America will have a “one-party government.”

One of Trump’s favorite conspiracy theories is that the entire media has collaborated to make a fool out of him, as if he weren’t already succeeding beyond anyone’s wildest dreams in that capacity. Much of the mainstream media, however, has aided and abetted his campaign by repeating the whine of the white boomer as if it were legitimate.

The most compelling evidence that the United States is a “hellhole,” according to the mainstream media, is that only one-third of voters, according to various polls, believe that the country is “on the right track.” Demographic specificity exposes the real anxiety underneath the political pessimism.


Source


So are we allowed to post clearly biased articles now? Can I post infowars articles?

Without being too dismissive, I think that most things posted here have a bias. The tendency is to be bias'd towards Hillary Clinton and you can see the posts from Trump supporters feeling raw about it.

This is different from your joke about infowars as infowars isn't bias'd, it's entirely conspiratorial.


Yes, but that article is beyond ridiculous compared to the usual pro HRC posted here.

Infowars is a big site, you can find lots of stuff that are not wacko opinions, but are depicted as such.

The feedback thread contained the discussion on the different set of standards applied to liberal posters and conservative posters, and this is the related hyperbolic left-wing opinion pieces vs right-wing opinion pieces. Its website feedback, and I'll just wait until posts like that get warned up to see if this thread's going in a more equitable direction.

I don't think you get warned for quoting/posting Breitbart etc. on here though, do you? Surely laughed at but I haven't actually seen someone get warned for that kind of stuff oO


I think we could use more Breitbart / Cernovich / Shitlords. Their perspectives tend towards honesty and intellectual consistency. They don't bother with ridiculous code words or politically correct language to hide the real meaning of MAGA. Last night Cernovich went on a tear attacking Abraham Lincoln as the first cuck, the importance of recognizing that Nelson Mandella was a terrorist, and that Reagan was a legendary cuck who created the demographic problem we face now. That is the kind of white nationalist honesty our debate really needs.

Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 23 2016 23:10 GMT
#114871
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5553 Posts
October 23 2016 23:40 GMT
#114872
Breitbart is a great outlet for what they cover, unlike the self-aggrandizing giants there's no pretense of neutrality. They report on things in a very lean way, sort of as though they were local, so compared to places full of filler like Vox, Salon, Huffpo, WaPo, it's very quick and easy to get through what's in the news. It may be that, because they've been blowing up recently, they're not as big an organization for what you'd expect at their market share. But whatever the reason, it's not full of people trying to pass themselves off as competent.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44253 Posts
October 24 2016 00:21 GMT
#114873
This is everything about Hillary's history with her email and private server... And it's why I'm not considering it to be the huge scandal that so many people insist it must be:

https://medium.com/the-curious-civilian/admit-it-the-clinton-email-controversy-bothers-you-yet-you-dont-actually-know-what-the-clinton-511dc1659eda#.yikaufceu
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-24 00:36:10
October 24 2016 00:30 GMT
#114874
On October 24 2016 09:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is everything about Hillary's history with her email and private server... And it's why I'm not considering it to be the huge scandal that so many people insist it must be:

https://medium.com/the-curious-civilian/admit-it-the-clinton-email-controversy-bothers-you-yet-you-dont-actually-know-what-the-clinton-511dc1659eda#.yikaufceu


That article has false information and ommits critical points, aside from the obvious biased point of view from the author.

-The author says that Hillary could "claim ignorance" and that was her main fault, despite the fact she received training from the secret service on how to handle e-mails, and that she signed documents acknowledging such responsibility.
-Or it ommits that she willfully deleted the emails after receiving a court order.

Allow me to post a counter-point of view:

Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
October 24 2016 00:34 GMT
#114875
Can you actually sum up the counter point of view, rather than post a 31 minute video?
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 24 2016 00:39 GMT
#114876
Why do people watch videos when they could read things? I don't understand youtube.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 24 2016 00:39 GMT
#114877
On October 24 2016 09:34 Falling wrote:
Can you actually sum up the counter point of view, rather than post a 31 minute video?


Posted a couple. "The Truth" about the emails requires more information than the partisan view of the guy DPB posted who shared what he tought about it and pretended to present it as true.

The guy presents in written everything he says, so you can take away any important points you like.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13906 Posts
October 24 2016 00:44 GMT
#114878
I love it when white supremacists expose themselves as white supremacists and not actual conservatives trying to contribute.

Just reading for that one moment where they completely go off the edge and start insulting Reagan and Abe Lincoln makes it all worth it.

I've been discussing it with a few fellow Minnesotans and I think Nixon is the best argument for clinton there is. Unarguably the world was a far better place for america after him then it was before his first term. How much damage Nixon did in his second term when the power went to his head after a landslide to the country was bad but the country didn't really feel any repercussions from it. So even if you agree she is corrupt and incompetent on a few issues shes undeniably a better president then trump.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13906 Posts
October 24 2016 00:46 GMT
#114879
I think we should require a new thread rule where you have to explain or summarize a youtube video if you're going to post it.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-24 00:56:49
October 24 2016 00:49 GMT
#114880
On October 24 2016 09:39 IgnE wrote:
Why do people watch videos when they could read things? I don't understand youtube.

Well written articles typically have headings and subheading which makes for really quick reading to get to the heart of the matter and determine whether more careful reading is required. I listen to lectures on my commute, but I'm dedicating specific time to listen. If one speaks at 100-150 words per minute, 30 minutes = 3000-4500 words of unformatted text, aka, tldr, unless I'm hunting for a conspiracy theorist, or I really have a lot of time on my hands/ it looks really interesting- a summary of the major points of the video helps build that interest.
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