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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 01:27:35
September 10 2016 01:27 GMT
#98861
On September 10 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:
Can someone explain why the birther thing all of a sudden came back now? I feel like it was kind of forgotten for a while and out of nowhere the media is all over it. Is it because the polls are tightening? or was there an actual trigger recently

Trump has not refuted it himself, despite everyone saying he no longer believes Obama wasn't born in the US. He has not admitted he was wrong. It could have been easy to avoid, but Trump has dodged the question, which is a valid one.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 01:44:29
September 10 2016 01:34 GMT
#98862
I think it's a little troubling that there actually is a debate whether the governing president who has been in office for 8 years is, in fact, American. Also I feel like this Hillary health thing is the birther version of a female candidate. If the guy is black question his citizenship, if the candidate is a woman question her health. Given this amount of originality if the US get their first Jewish president what's it going to be? Whether he's part of the Illuminati?
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
September 10 2016 01:46 GMT
#98863
On September 10 2016 10:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:
Can someone explain why the birther thing all of a sudden came back now? I feel like it was kind of forgotten for a while and out of nowhere the media is all over it. Is it because the polls are tightening? or was there an actual trigger recently

Trump has not refuted it himself, despite everyone saying he no longer believes Obama wasn't born in the US. He has not admitted he was wrong. It could have been easy to avoid, but Trump has dodged the question, which is a valid one.


those are fair points, but my question was why did it suddenly come up in unison in the media. Did he say something recently about it?
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 10 2016 01:55 GMT
#98864
On September 10 2016 10:46 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 10:27 Plansix wrote:
On September 10 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:
Can someone explain why the birther thing all of a sudden came back now? I feel like it was kind of forgotten for a while and out of nowhere the media is all over it. Is it because the polls are tightening? or was there an actual trigger recently

Trump has not refuted it himself, despite everyone saying he no longer believes Obama wasn't born in the US. He has not admitted he was wrong. It could have been easy to avoid, but Trump has dodged the question, which is a valid one.


those are fair points, but my question was why did it suddenly come up in unison in the media. Did he say something recently about it?

Reporters asking questions. Both candidates are answering questions about previous statements and stances.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 10 2016 01:59 GMT
#98865
On September 10 2016 10:46 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 10:27 Plansix wrote:
On September 10 2016 10:19 biology]major wrote:
Can someone explain why the birther thing all of a sudden came back now? I feel like it was kind of forgotten for a while and out of nowhere the media is all over it. Is it because the polls are tightening? or was there an actual trigger recently

Trump has not refuted it himself, despite everyone saying he no longer believes Obama wasn't born in the US. He has not admitted he was wrong. It could have been easy to avoid, but Trump has dodged the question, which is a valid one.


those are fair points, but my question was why did it suddenly come up in unison in the media. Did he say something recently about it?


It's because he's doing black voter outreach, but has not apologized for being a birther.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
September 10 2016 02:03 GMT
#98866
He must have said something dumb recently, the media usually doesn't randomly pounce like that. Also Chris Wallace is the moderator for the final debate, he could end HRC if he asks about the lie she told him on their last interview together.
Question.?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
September 10 2016 02:09 GMT
#98867
On September 10 2016 11:03 biology]major wrote:
He must have said something dumb recently, the media usually doesn't randomly pounce like that. Also Chris Wallace is the moderator for the final debate, he could end HRC if he asks about the lie she told him on their last interview together.


They might just be fishing, it's been too long since his latest gaffe.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
September 10 2016 02:11 GMT
#98868
On September 10 2016 10:34 Nyxisto wrote:Given this amount of originality if the US get their first Jewish president what's it going to be? Whether he's part of the Illuminati?


Ironically enough, it's that he's an atheist.

From:MARSHALL@dnc.org
To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org
Date: 2016-05-05 03:31
Subject: No shit
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 10 2016 02:14 GMT
#98869
On September 10 2016 11:09 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 11:03 biology]major wrote:
He must have said something dumb recently, the media usually doesn't randomly pounce like that. Also Chris Wallace is the moderator for the final debate, he could end HRC if he asks about the lie she told him on their last interview together.


They might just be fishing, it's been too long since his latest gaffe.

He appeared on Russian TV today.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 10 2016 02:16 GMT
#98870
Did this really happen? Is Trump from Neptune or something?

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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 02:20:44
September 10 2016 02:20 GMT
#98871
This honestly sounds like the botched translation of some 90s snes game. The only thing missing is "all your base are belong to us"
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
September 10 2016 02:21 GMT
#98872
On September 10 2016 11:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Did this really happen? Is Trump from Neptune or something?

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/774428262025957376



LOL honestly how does he even come up with this stuff. The man is a fountain of creativity.
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 02:22:54
September 10 2016 02:21 GMT
#98873
Unobtainium? Meteria? Vibrainium? Has anyone checked it Trump knows Japan has the 7 crystals from Final Fantasy? What about the infinity stones?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
September 10 2016 02:24 GMT
#98874
On September 10 2016 11:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 11:09 Introvert wrote:
On September 10 2016 11:03 biology]major wrote:
He must have said something dumb recently, the media usually doesn't randomly pounce like that. Also Chris Wallace is the moderator for the final debate, he could end HRC if he asks about the lie she told him on their last interview together.


They might just be fishing, it's been too long since his latest gaffe.

He appeared on Russian TV today.


His surrogates have been quizzed on it a few times in recent days.

Unless you mean appearing on Putin-TV is a gaffe, which is arguable. I think his 'Putin, STRONG' comments from a few days ago are discussion worthy, but they aren't the headliners people want.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 02:33:46
September 10 2016 02:27 GMT
#98875
On September 10 2016 11:24 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 11:14 Plansix wrote:
On September 10 2016 11:09 Introvert wrote:
On September 10 2016 11:03 biology]major wrote:
He must have said something dumb recently, the media usually doesn't randomly pounce like that. Also Chris Wallace is the moderator for the final debate, he could end HRC if he asks about the lie she told him on their last interview together.


They might just be fishing, it's been too long since his latest gaffe.

He appeared on Russian TV today.


His surrogates have been quizzed on it a few times in recent days.

Unless you mean appearing on Putin-TV is a gaffe, which is arguable. I think his 'Putin, STRONG' comments from a few days ago are discussion worthy, but they aren't the headliners people want.

He appeared on Russian funded television and claims he did not know about it. It was an interview with Larry King, I believe. Clinton was asked about it at her press conference today.

The Nixon style " I have a secret plan to beat ISIS" is enough of a gaff.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 10 2016 03:34 GMT
#98876
On September 10 2016 08:55 zlefin wrote:
Bunch of stuff from the Value Voters Summit on cspan. Seen some bits and pieces of it over the day; not surprising, but always annoyed at the sometimes used unsound statements and speeches. But, my tolerance of them is growing.


I imagine Trump secretly thinking Evan Jellical was a person.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5672 Posts
September 10 2016 04:12 GMT
#98877


Clinton following the successful example of Mitt "47%" Romney and insulting voters.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 10 2016 04:14 GMT
#98878
Had the Republican Party been capable of getting its shit together this would be a blowout for them. But instead they're losing to Hillary because they're just that bad.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 04:18:25
September 10 2016 04:17 GMT
#98879
On September 10 2016 13:12 oBlade wrote:
https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/774426188274102272

Clinton following the successful example of Mitt "47%" Romney and insulting voters.


People who even contemplate voting for Trump would never vote for Hillary. This election is about driving turnout up. If insults would have any detrimental effect Trump would be polling in the negative numbers. Also she's probably right
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5672 Posts
September 10 2016 04:21 GMT
#98880
On September 10 2016 13:17 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 13:12 oBlade wrote:
https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/774426188274102272

Clinton following the successful example of Mitt "47%" Romney and insulting voters.


People who even contemplate voting for Trump would never vote for Hillary. This election is about driving turnout up. If insults would have any detrimental effect Trump would be polling in the negative numbers. Also she's probably right

Was Mitt Romney right?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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