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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
March 07 2013 04:33 GMT
#3001
Aw heck, I didn't even think about the ACLU. A team-up between them and a few folks like Rand Paul would cause major stirs.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2013 04:35 GMT
#3002
Look at Mitch McConnell even attempting to act interested he still looks like he is trying to take credit.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FallenPrince
Profile Joined March 2013
8 Posts
March 07 2013 04:40 GMT
#3003
On March 07 2013 13:31 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 13:26 Nevuk wrote:
This is so much better than what congress typically does. Also this filibuster would be a footnote in history if all Paul were doing was reading a phonebook out loud, he's been making arguments that actually concern the reason why he's filibustering.

I don't know who I agree with, but it's damn entertaining.


Yes.


Agreed :D I'm loving this.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2013 04:45 GMT
#3004
Totally off topic but it's moments like this when I am proud of my Government. It's rare but there it is.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 07 2013 04:50 GMT
#3005
Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell are the senators from my native state. I really can't imagine two people with more differing philosophies. (McConnell recently filibustered HIS OWN bill with an objection filibuster).

Paul is a very strange fit for Kentucky, I can't exactly say I agree with him on a lot of issues but I have to respect him deeply for this act.

I do have to point out that the filibuster is just tradition, it's not a law or constitutional right for senators. When it's abused by people like McConnell I feel like it should be gone, but when a filibuster leads to things like this I understand why we let it stand. (Still, people should have to actually stand and speak, not just say I object and force 60 votes without wasting their own time)
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
March 07 2013 04:52 GMT
#3006
We need more talking filibusters like this. No signing of papers on your ass, people have to believe in something to talk themselves into exhaustion for it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#3007
And here comes Dick Durbin.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
March 07 2013 05:01 GMT
#3008
If only there was this much zeal about unemployment. Getting real tired of this shit that is made to be important but actually rather insignificant in context.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 07 2013 05:04 GMT
#3009
are these guys actually going to go through the night? lol
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
March 07 2013 05:07 GMT
#3010
People are suggesting that he'll run a ticket for 2016. (already) I'm disinclined to look that far ahead when there's work to be done now, but I'm glancing through his stances on the issues and I'm actually agreeing with him more and more. O_o

+ Show Spoiler [For example] +
"Conservatives should criticize GOP when they grow government. (Feb 2012)" Lord, do we ever need to. >_<
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 05:08:41
March 07 2013 05:07 GMT
#3011
On March 07 2013 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
are these guys actually going to go through the night? lol

This could go on until he's so exhausted he literally cannot stand and talk.
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
March 07 2013 05:08 GMT
#3012
On March 07 2013 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
are these guys actually going to go through the night? lol

I hope so, I want to get my tax dollar's worth out of these guys :p
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
March 07 2013 05:08 GMT
#3013
On March 07 2013 14:08 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
are these guys actually going to go through the night? lol

I hope so, I want to get my tax dollar's worth out of these guys :p

Haha, guess that's one way to look at it.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 07 2013 05:18 GMT
#3014
I hope we go into Yeltsin mode and Rand shuts off the heating and lights, except leaving cspan on of course!
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
March 07 2013 05:24 GMT
#3015
On March 07 2013 14:08 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
are these guys actually going to go through the night? lol

I hope so, I want to get my tax dollar's worth out of these guys :p


I mean the business day is basically over so its not like they are wasting time that would be spent otherwise on business. If he truly believes in this then this is certainly the best way to start a conversation.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 07 2013 05:35 GMT
#3016
sounds like they're throwing in the towel
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2013 05:40 GMT
#3017
Filibuster has ended. White House will have to respond and Dick Durbin made himself look an idiot. So Mission Accomplished pretty much.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 07 2013 05:42 GMT
#3018
On March 07 2013 14:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Filibuster has ended. White House will have to respond and Dick Durbin made himself look an idiot. So Mission Accomplished pretty much.

i wasn't listening to what he said, what made him look bad?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 05:45:50
March 07 2013 05:44 GMT
#3019
He kept asking the same questions which had already been answered several times over which have been asked for several weeks.

That and 9/11 was a surprise is no longer a valid tactic seeing how the government knew about five years beforehand.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44216 Posts
March 07 2013 06:51 GMT
#3020
The whole standing endurance aspect of the filibuster doesn't really make sense in the modern era. Obviously it's a legacy of historical procedure which has evolved into part of the system but why not simply reform the system to allow anyone to delay for a fixed period of time. The endurance aspect means someone in good health could do it for a while with no real conviction while someone in poor health may be unable to hold the floor, no matter how important they feel the matter is. In Roman Senate procedure the Plebeian Tribune was sacrosanct and could potentially use his body to physically block the passing of a bill as nobody could interfere with him but they didn't make him do it every time, they just gave him a veto and assumed when he used his veto that he was expressing the desire to get up and stand in the way. Why not let procedure evolve alongside the practice.
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