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On November 25 2014 14:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My parents owned a grocery store in LA county back when the LA riots happened after Rodney King incident. Luckily enough it didn't spread out of LA City, but the fear was real as small business owners. I remember the faces of my parents, being scared of the riots spreading. This is why it hit so close to home for me. But nah, people rather just paint me as some racist when I'm criticizing rioters over shit like this.
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On November 25 2014 14:49 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:46 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:41 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? What justice? The prosecutor that spoke in defense of the cop? The police force made up of a large white majority in a largely black town? Or the Grand Jury with only 3 black people overseeing a case where the citizens are largely black? How about McCulloch never indicting police officers and his father being a cop - killed by a black man? Or various members of his family serving in law enforcement? You call this justice? You are a piece of shit. The justice is an innocent man not getting indicted for defending himself.
Please pay attention to evidence next time. Defending himself from what? go on, explain the case broham. All evidence shows that Brown was stopped as a suspect for a crime he committed attacked Wilson, went for his gun, got shot in the hand, and was fatally put down charging a police officer. This is proven in the autopsy, ballistics reports, blood spatter pattern, Wilson's injuries and corroborated in multiple testimonies. Again, play attention to the evidence in the future, please.
The biggest surprise to me in reviewing the evidence was that there were no other drugs in Brown's system other than THC. You have to be a goddamned idiot to pick a fight with a police officer and charge him after he's already shot you once.
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On November 25 2014 14:48 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:47 Doublemint wrote:On November 25 2014 14:43 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:40 Vegetarian wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? Most people would not consider justice to be shooting an unarmed man 6 times and getting away with it. He got away with self-defense, as according to a grand jury. yeah those are the bare facts. without the circumstances or inconvenient details. You mean the circumstance and details that the 12 grand jurors got? Did everyone just forget that the justice system was used?
Only the crazies and the news media. Oops, redundant.
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University City police officer has been shot in University City. Injuries unknown. Enroute to hospital now. Unknown if related to #Ferguson
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On November 25 2014 14:45 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting. I wouldn't call people who see rioting as something that is bad and not helping anything "disgusting". Your right about media portrayal (frankly I don't know how we as a country continue to let them operate in the horrible fashion that they do). The kind of perception you are referring to is shockingly deep though (recently in my field we were fighting against that recently released crappyily done "scientific work of a nonscientist" about race that Nicholas Wade released).
They are, and the racial overtones pouring out of their post are disgusting too. Nevermind not even understanding WHY these people are going berserk, but calling all of them ignorant when not everyone is out there vandalizing property. Many people really, really, don't understand what black people go through with respect to police in this country. So they think this lashing out behavior is just people being dumb. So many black males have been killed by police that have gotten the benefit of the doubt in recent years. Every time black people are told to be calm, let the system do it's job, vote if you want to change the law. And yet the killing of young black men still continues at the hands of police officers who are above the law. So when this happens again, and the decision is handed down in the wake of that 12 year old boy getting shot in the stomach and the 28 year old shot by a cop in the dark what do you think the sentiment is? Preaching patience does what? What is the alternative route that people should take? I don't think rioting is the best course of action but what is the solution when other avenues keep getting your people murdered and the killers unsanctioned?
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On November 25 2014 14:51 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:46 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:41 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? What justice? The prosecutor that spoke in defense of the cop? The police force made up of a large white majority in a largely black town? Or the Grand Jury with only 3 black people overseeing a case where the citizens are largely black? How about McCulloch never indicting police officers and his father being a cop - killed by a black man? Or various members of his family serving in law enforcement? You call this justice? You are a piece of shit. The justice is an innocent man not getting indicted for defending himself.
Please pay attention to evidence next time. Defending himself from what? go on, explain the case broham. One thing I don't get is why are people on the internet so sure of themselves that the cop was justified or was not in the shooting? Anything released prior to the official evidence is pretty much trash that should be ignored when forming an opinion on this case. I myself am holding back on forming any kind of opinion until I have some time to read the actual established facts of the case (because I sure as hell am confused on what went down as of right now because I have heard so much conflicting shit). The only thing I am sure of is that the police handled this whole thing in the worst possible way and the media are a bunch of fuck heads.
I feel the same way, but people on the internet believe what they wanna believe, and cherrypicking/confirmation bias is rampant.
Everything about this is unfortunate.
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On November 25 2014 14:52 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:45 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting. I wouldn't call people who see rioting as something that is bad and not helping anything "disgusting". Your right about media portrayal (frankly I don't know how we as a country continue to let them operate in the horrible fashion that they do). The kind of perception you are referring to is shockingly deep though (recently in my field we were fighting against that recently released crappyily done "scientific work of a nonscientist" about race that Nicholas Wade released). They are, and the racial overtones pouring out of their post are disgusting too. Nevermind not even understanding WHY these people are going berserk, but calling all of them ignorant when not everyone is out there vandalizing property. Many people really, really, don't understand what black people go through with respect to police in this country. So they think this lashing out behavior is just people being dumb. So many black males have been killed by police that have gotten the benefit of the doubt in recent years. Every time black people are told to be calm, let the system do it's job, vote if you want to change the law. And yet the killing of young black men still continues at the hands of police officers who are above the law. So when this happens again, and the decision is handed down in the wake of that 12 year old boy getting shot in the stomach and the 28 year old shot by a cop in the dark what do you think the sentiment is? Preaching patience does what? What is the alternative route that people should take? I don't think rioting is the best course of action but what is the solution when other avenues keep getting your people murdered and the killers unsanctioned?
How ever did the civil rights movement ever work? Clearly the strong work of the black panthers were the very reason why the civil rights bill passed.
/sarcasm for the blindly angered folks in this thread.
Of course that's giving too much credit to the Rioters to compare them to the black panthers, at least the Panther provided for their community rather than teared it down.
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On November 25 2014 14:51 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:49 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:46 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:41 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? What justice? The prosecutor that spoke in defense of the cop? The police force made up of a large white majority in a largely black town? Or the Grand Jury with only 3 black people overseeing a case where the citizens are largely black? How about McCulloch never indicting police officers and his father being a cop - killed by a black man? Or various members of his family serving in law enforcement? You call this justice? You are a piece of shit. The justice is an innocent man not getting indicted for defending himself.
Please pay attention to evidence next time. Defending himself from what? go on, explain the case broham. All evidence shows that Brown was stopped as a suspect for a crime he committed attacked Wilson, went for his gun, got shot in the hand, and was fatally put down charging a police officer. This is proven in the autopsy, ballistics reports, blood spatter pattern, Wilson's injuries and corroborated in multiple testimonies. Again, play attention to the evidence in the future, please. The biggest surprise to me in reviewing the evidence was that there were no other drugs in Brown's system other than THC. You have to be a goddamned idiot to pick a fight with a police officer and charge him after he's already shot you once. Thats your biggest surprise, not wilson testifying that every time a bullet hit brown, brown seemed to grow stronger?
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On November 25 2014 14:55 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:51 xDaunt wrote:On November 25 2014 14:49 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:46 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:41 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? What justice? The prosecutor that spoke in defense of the cop? The police force made up of a large white majority in a largely black town? Or the Grand Jury with only 3 black people overseeing a case where the citizens are largely black? How about McCulloch never indicting police officers and his father being a cop - killed by a black man? Or various members of his family serving in law enforcement? You call this justice? You are a piece of shit. The justice is an innocent man not getting indicted for defending himself.
Please pay attention to evidence next time. Defending himself from what? go on, explain the case broham. All evidence shows that Brown was stopped as a suspect for a crime he committed attacked Wilson, went for his gun, got shot in the hand, and was fatally put down charging a police officer. This is proven in the autopsy, ballistics reports, blood spatter pattern, Wilson's injuries and corroborated in multiple testimonies. Again, play attention to the evidence in the future, please. The biggest surprise to me in reviewing the evidence was that there were no other drugs in Brown's system other than THC. You have to be a goddamned idiot to pick a fight with a police officer and charge him after he's already shot you once. Thats your biggest surprise, not wilson testifying that every time a bullet hit brown, brown seemed to grow stronger?
As a guy who's sparred quite a bit, adrenaline is a helluva chemical high.
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On November 25 2014 14:55 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:51 xDaunt wrote:On November 25 2014 14:49 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:46 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:44 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:41 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? What justice? The prosecutor that spoke in defense of the cop? The police force made up of a large white majority in a largely black town? Or the Grand Jury with only 3 black people overseeing a case where the citizens are largely black? How about McCulloch never indicting police officers and his father being a cop - killed by a black man? Or various members of his family serving in law enforcement? You call this justice? You are a piece of shit. The justice is an innocent man not getting indicted for defending himself.
Please pay attention to evidence next time. Defending himself from what? go on, explain the case broham. All evidence shows that Brown was stopped as a suspect for a crime he committed attacked Wilson, went for his gun, got shot in the hand, and was fatally put down charging a police officer. This is proven in the autopsy, ballistics reports, blood spatter pattern, Wilson's injuries and corroborated in multiple testimonies. Again, play attention to the evidence in the future, please. The biggest surprise to me in reviewing the evidence was that there were no other drugs in Brown's system other than THC. You have to be a goddamned idiot to pick a fight with a police officer and charge him after he's already shot you once. Thats your biggest surprise, not wilson testifying that every time a bullet hit brown, brown seemed to grow stronger?
Adrenaline's a helluva drug.
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On November 25 2014 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:52 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:45 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:
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go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting. I wouldn't call people who see rioting as something that is bad and not helping anything "disgusting". Your right about media portrayal (frankly I don't know how we as a country continue to let them operate in the horrible fashion that they do). The kind of perception you are referring to is shockingly deep though (recently in my field we were fighting against that recently released crappyily done "scientific work of a nonscientist" about race that Nicholas Wade released). They are, and the racial overtones pouring out of their post are disgusting too. Nevermind not even understanding WHY these people are going berserk, but calling all of them ignorant when not everyone is out there vandalizing property. Many people really, really, don't understand what black people go through with respect to police in this country. So they think this lashing out behavior is just people being dumb. So many black males have been killed by police that have gotten the benefit of the doubt in recent years. Every time black people are told to be calm, let the system do it's job, vote if you want to change the law. And yet the killing of young black men still continues at the hands of police officers who are above the law. So when this happens again, and the decision is handed down in the wake of that 12 year old boy getting shot in the stomach and the 28 year old shot by a cop in the dark what do you think the sentiment is? Preaching patience does what? What is the alternative route that people should take? I don't think rioting is the best course of action but what is the solution when other avenues keep getting your people murdered and the killers unsanctioned? How ever did the civil rights movement ever work? Clearly the strong work of the black panthers were the very reason why the civil rights bill passed. /sarcasm for the blindly angered folks in this thread. Of course that's giving too much credit to the Rioters to compare them to the black panthers, at least the Panther provided for their community rather than teared it down.
Disgusting
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If there is one lesson we can learn from this it's that MANDATING Cops wear body cameras would be cheaper and bring us closer to justice than skimping out and deciding against them.
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I get the impression that african american's are uninformed of how the justice system works.
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On November 25 2014 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:52 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:45 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:
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go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting. I wouldn't call people who see rioting as something that is bad and not helping anything "disgusting". Your right about media portrayal (frankly I don't know how we as a country continue to let them operate in the horrible fashion that they do). The kind of perception you are referring to is shockingly deep though (recently in my field we were fighting against that recently released crappyily done "scientific work of a nonscientist" about race that Nicholas Wade released). They are, and the racial overtones pouring out of their post are disgusting too. Nevermind not even understanding WHY these people are going berserk, but calling all of them ignorant when not everyone is out there vandalizing property. Many people really, really, don't understand what black people go through with respect to police in this country. So they think this lashing out behavior is just people being dumb. So many black males have been killed by police that have gotten the benefit of the doubt in recent years. Every time black people are told to be calm, let the system do it's job, vote if you want to change the law. And yet the killing of young black men still continues at the hands of police officers who are above the law. So when this happens again, and the decision is handed down in the wake of that 12 year old boy getting shot in the stomach and the 28 year old shot by a cop in the dark what do you think the sentiment is? Preaching patience does what? What is the alternative route that people should take? I don't think rioting is the best course of action but what is the solution when other avenues keep getting your people murdered and the killers unsanctioned? How ever did the civil rights movement ever work? Clearly the strong work of the black panthers were the very reason why the civil rights bill passed. /sarcasm for the blindly angered folks in this thread. Of course that's giving too much credit to the Rioters to compare them to the black panthers, at least the Panther provided for their community rather than teared it down.
That doesn't mean violent riot doesn't bring any result though
Hong Kong 1967 riot against the British government due to the racist and corruption etc was violent and after that the British gov reviewed their policies and brought a huge change to the society, so much that hong kongers no longer cause much issue ever since.
Here, I just gave you one example of how a violent riot can turn things for better as well.
It would be silly to think only civic disobedience movement can make changes.
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On November 25 2014 14:41 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:40 Vegetarian wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? Most people would not consider justice to be shooting an unarmed man 6 times and getting away with it. It's easy to get outraged when you ignore the facts of the case, yes.
You are the one who is ignoring basic facts.
Police have bulletproof cars and carry batons, as well as tasers. There is no reason for police to ever shoot an unarmed man 6 times with a lethal weapon.
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On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting.
you need to step back, calm down, and focus on objectivity. You're making a lot of logic mistakes.
Don't conflict what the media is focusing on with actual people's opinions of the situation.
Just because the black is unarmed doesn't mean the shoot is necessarily bad, it might or might not have been (not to mention the dozens of blacks killed daily by other blacks). Don't pretend that people's dislike of the rioters means they approve of the failings of the local police and government.
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On November 25 2014 15:03 Vegetarian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:41 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:40 Vegetarian wrote:On November 25 2014 14:36 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. What? Rioting over lack of "justice"? Justice was fucking served, just because the result wasn't what people wanted, doesn't mean justice wasn't served. Rioting does nothing to promote their cause. What happened to the famous non-violent movement of MLK jr? You'd think he'd be proud of this shit? Most people would not consider justice to be shooting an unarmed man 6 times and getting away with it. It's easy to get outraged when you ignore the facts of the case, yes. You are the one who is ignoring basic facts. Police have bulletproof cars and carry batons, as well as tasers. There is no reason for police to ever shoot an unarmed man 6 times with a lethal weapon.
Average patrol cars are not bullet proof. :/
I hope you know that tasers also hurt whoever the person is touching.... So if Brown was within punching/grappling distance of Wilson (as the bruising suggest), Wilson would also be shocking himself....
On November 25 2014 15:02 URfavHO wrote:
I get the impression that african american's are uninformed of how the justice system works.
I would say most people are uninformed. Remember this is a country where 30 odd percent of the adult population can't even name a single branch of government, and 50 odd percent don't believe in evolution.
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On November 25 2014 14:52 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:45 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:39 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:35 Slaughter wrote:On November 25 2014 14:32 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:30 RockIronrod wrote:On November 25 2014 14:27 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:24 Yergidy wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. Completely agree. When I first saw all the shit they were doing I was so pissed. On November 25 2014 14:23 Ace wrote:On November 25 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
The riot is fucking disgusting, ignorant people getting mad over shit they don't have full details of. It does nothing to the public image of minorities, when they pull stupid as fuck shit like this. go fuck yourself. Those people are rioting because Ferguson has long been a hotbed of political oppression towards black people. They are frustrated. Some ignorant people are there but this bullshit comment is exactly the type that is fed by misinformed racist pieces of shit. You don't understand what those people are going through. Fuck outta here. Oh, I think I know. They wanna get their free liqua. K, keep thinking people being oppressed is a joke. Funny isn't it? Keep defending the rioters who are destroying the community of the people who live there. Nothing says liberation like burning down a Walgreens. Maybe the white rioters that destroyed their community after the Giants game should get your scorn too then, right? Keep ignoring what's going on in that community and acting like ignorance is the word of the day. You don't know shit about what's going on in communities like Ferguson. What event are you referring to specifically? This is the 2nd time I have seen someone referencing sports related riots as if it is something only whites do. In my recollection they usually get the same scorn/mockery and police suppression that is happening right now. SF Giants World Series game. When those people rioted the attention was not even close to what these people are getting. Also remember the way CNN and FoxNews have been framing minorities for weeks leading up to this event. Black people are viewed as inherently violent and tend to riot when what's going on here is lashing out at a system due to frustration. But the pos in this thread don't see and won't understand that. Within the last 2 weeks two unarmed black males have been murdered by police and in both cases the cops are likely to walk. There is much more to this than "look, ignorant rioters!" going on. Some of you people are fucking disgusting. I wouldn't call people who see rioting as something that is bad and not helping anything "disgusting". Your right about media portrayal (frankly I don't know how we as a country continue to let them operate in the horrible fashion that they do). The kind of perception you are referring to is shockingly deep though (recently in my field we were fighting against that recently released crappyily done "scientific work of a nonscientist" about race that Nicholas Wade released). They are, and the racial overtones pouring out of their post are disgusting too. Nevermind not even understanding WHY these people are going berserk, but calling all of them ignorant when not everyone is out there vandalizing property. Many people really, really, don't understand what black people go through with respect to police in this country. So they think this lashing out behavior is just people being dumb. So many black males have been killed by police that have gotten the benefit of the doubt in recent years. Every time black people are told to be calm, let the system do it's job, vote if you want to change the law. And yet the killing of young black men still continues at the hands of police officers who are above the law. So when this happens again, and the decision is handed down in the wake of that 12 year old boy getting shot in the stomach and the 28 year old shot by a cop in the dark what do you think the sentiment is? Preaching patience does what? What is the alternative route that people should take? I don't think rioting is the best course of action but what is the solution when other avenues keep getting your people murdered and the killers unsanctioned?
When a cop does something wrong, he / she should absolutely be punished. No one questions that.
However, when a cop doesn't do something wrong he should not be punished. People seem to question that though, and it just makes the situation worse. See 'Boy cried Wolf', and police / community relations.
I'm reminded of an NPR story I read a few months back where a black family lamented that they may have to resign themselves to a world where they need to tell their children to obey officers, out of fear for their children's safety. I furrowed my brow at that. Growing up white in a quiet suburb my parents told me the same thing, that if I was ever in trouble to just do what the officer said, and be VERY polite.
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