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acerockolla
Profile Joined June 2011
United States219 Posts
May 04 2012 07:50 GMT
#21
I really disliked this part of SOTG when INC kept ripping on OGN possibly having Moletrap as a caster for SC2. There's so many assumptions being made here. The first assumption seems to equate OGN with GOM. GOM relies on an English audience for a signifcant portion of its revenue because of its lacking popularity in Korea. Whereas GOM may truly be an awesome company that wants to satisfy the fans, we need to realize they do it because they need to. OGN seems to be existing quite fine without foreign revenue. Also, OGN is EXTREMELY good at what they do, so I wouldn't be so hesitant to give them the benefit of the doubt. Who even said Moletrap would be casting SC? It's somewhat logical to think he is, but why start ripping on OGN for something that we are making up on the spot?

I for one don't mind Moletrap, or any casters for that matter. I enjoy all of them. I like some more than others, but I'm more thankful than anything than OGN is even attempting to cater to us. Let's be happy for now, and everyone can start complaining later when something is actually known...
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
May 04 2012 07:51 GMT
#22
oh god, please dont do that
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 04 2012 07:51 GMT
#23
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 04 2012 07:52 GMT
#24
On May 04 2012 16:41 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:38 Forikorder wrote:
On May 04 2012 16:35 corpuscle wrote:
I got the sense throughout that whole show that they didn't realize that Moletrap/Torch got hired by OGN to cast LoL. It hasn't been announced or confirmed that Moletrap will be casting OSL or whatever they end up calling it, and it was frankly a little silly that they spent so long talking about it based on nothing but an assumption.

That said, Moletrap really isn't a good choice. I like him, personally, but most people don't, and they have the resources to get someone more popular.

who though?
they cant get Tastosis, DJwheat, Day9 or bitterdam unless they get dApollo and Totalbiscuit i dont think there going to find a better caster

hopefully if Moletrap does get the gig he works hard on improving his casting, and Artosis did make a good point that theyd need someone who can cast BW as well


There's a lot of casters out there. It's entirely possible that OGN could poach casters from another tournament, they almost undoubtedly have more money than most organizations. I don't know enough about the logistics to give any sort of expert opinion, but there's a lot of people out there that have gotten a general better reception than Moletrap. They could even potentially convince a player like Grubby to cast for them if the deal is sweet enough.

edit: off the top of my head, Katu, orb, Husky, Apollo, Axeltoss, and Adebisi all are better casters than Moletrap

arent Katu and orb people who got crucified by the community in the past? im pretty sure OGN would prefer to have a caster that some people hate then casters with history like that

the thing your missing is few casters are good enough and have a long enough track record for OGN to be willing to bring them out to Korea and not every caster is willing to drop everything in there life and move out there

since there not going to find a better caster (debatable i suppose) then Moletrap and Torch, and they already proved there worth doing LoL it wouldnt surprise me if they have them do SC2
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
May 04 2012 07:52 GMT
#25
The drama will not cease
its almost a ban trap at this point
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 04 2012 07:53 GMT
#26
I would prefer somebody else to be honest. The biggest reason in both SCII and LoL that I don't like listening to him is he's quite frankly not very knowledgeable about either game. That in and of itself is not a huge problem, but it doesn't seem like Moletrap is attempting to improve either. Torch after a few weeks at casting LoL had a noticeable improvement in both knowledge and casting quality. Moletrap on the other hand..

Also the incessant screaming that adds basically nothing.

I guess I may be somewhat biased because I'd rather have calm correct analysis commentary than screamed sometimes correct play-by-play that sometimes does a bit of analysis due to my formerly mid-high masters SCII and current Gold LoL(roughly equivalent of masters) status.
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 04 2012 07:53 GMT
#27
By the way, I'm sure there's lots of pro players who would be okay with cutting into their practice time a little bit to cast in exchange for a solid salary and the opportunity to live in Korea. iNcontroL himself was planning on going over to Korea to cast for GOM and practice in Korea.

Just sayin'.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 04 2012 07:53 GMT
#28
The problem with Moletrap is general lack of knowledge. I don't know how much effort he actually puts into understanding the game and getting to know the players playing, but I always felt that he just didn't care that much. He'd often say things I felt were wrong about the players, as if he wasn't familiar with them, and he always made a lot of miscalls and left a general impression that his game knowledge was just really lacking.

I was enthusiastic about him early on, but he just doesn't seem to have improved at all. He definitely has the enthusiasm, but he has to understand that he needs to work and do his research, on both the game and the players, if he wants to do a better job and have less people disliking his casting.
Unnamezz
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia191 Posts
May 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#29
I still don't get it what with the massive hate on Moletrap though. He is doing a great job on casting, better than *somebody* at least, and i mean *SOMEBODY*~
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 07:55:09
May 04 2012 07:55 GMT
#30
No, dear god no.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
May 04 2012 07:56 GMT
#31
I would be sure that he would cast, but who knows they did take him on for the LoL premiere on OGN, so he might stick to LoL or he might do both LoL and sc2. Only time will tell
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 04 2012 07:57 GMT
#32
Incontrol/Grubby

Make it happen!
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 04 2012 07:57 GMT
#33
On May 04 2012 16:53 corpuscle wrote:
By the way, I'm sure there's lots of pro players who would be okay with cutting into their practice time a little bit to cast in exchange for a solid salary and the opportunity to live in Korea. iNcontroL himself was planning on going over to Korea to cast for GOM and practice in Korea.

Just sayin'.

he was planning on casting code a and with goms new schedule thats only means hed be casting for a few hours a couple days a week

no pro could cast for OGN and remain relelvant theyd turn into Artosis, an amazing analytical commentator but never going to do well in a tournament
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 07:59:01
May 04 2012 07:58 GMT
#34
I dont really see what the hate is all about, he isnt my favorite caster but i have nothing against him, i dont see what makes him so much worse than all those other youtube casters.

If he's in korea and the gomtv casters are busy with their stuff, i dont see why not.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 04 2012 08:04 GMT
#35
Personally I would love to see people like Adebisi or Axeltoss cast for these guys. OGN is new to the sc2 scene, so they should have casters that are more up-and-coming (even though both have been around for awhile, their popularity is getting larger due to the recent spotlight that has been shined on casters).
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
May 04 2012 08:06 GMT
#36
Well if Moletrap casts for that league they won't get any of my Euros. I paid GomTV since their very first show, and I was pondering to stop watching it because of that guy.
Now I'm a happy camper with Moletrap not casting for GomTV anymore, and I just don't want to hear about him anymore.
Sure he is a nice person, but in my opinion a very poor, irritating caster.
I also think that GomTV could have made more profit if they had hired another caster (which was maybe not possible at the time), because I'm sure that some people did not just ponder stopping their GomTV subscribtion but actually did it.
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 08:11:37
May 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#37
On May 04 2012 16:51 Kiyo. wrote:
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone.


Someone that knows alot about sc2. Someone that does not have an irritating voice. Someone that does not interrupt his co-caster .Someone that is at least a little charismatic.

I agree that this is not easy, but I would be sad to see a "lesser choice" being chosen because there is "nothing else"..

(edit : and I would not pay anything for that. In comparison I spent 200$+ on gom already, including the ticket for the whole 2012 year..)
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 04 2012 08:12 GMT
#38
On May 04 2012 17:10 niilzon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:51 Kiyo. wrote:
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone.


Someone that knows alot about sc2. Someone that does not have an irritating voice. Someone that does not interrupt his co-caster .Someone that is at least a little charismatic.

I agree that this is not easy, but I would be sad to see a "lesser choice" being chosen because there is "nothing else"..

(edit : and I would not pay anything for that. In comparison I spent 200$+ on gom already, including the ticket for the whole 2012 year..)

your right they should jsut not have english casters and jsut show the game and let the viewer figure out whats going on themselves
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 04 2012 08:14 GMT
#39
Id suggest that they do a deal with GOM and share casters when they aren't busy. Other than that id say they should find someone awesome like Apollo or some of the other casters like Axel and bring them over to do it. Id hate if they have horrible casting. Actually id nearly stream audio of myself casting (not the video since that is wrong) if they do use moletrap.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 04 2012 08:15 GMT
#40
On May 04 2012 17:14 FlukyS wrote:
Id suggest that they do a deal with GOM and share casters when they aren't busy. Other than that id say they should find someone awesome like Apollo or some of the other casters like Axel and bring them over to do it. Id hate if they have horrible casting. Actually id nearly stream audio of myself casting (not the video since that is wrong) if they do use moletrap.


In an ideal world they could share casters but unfortunately they are in " friendly competition "
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