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Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
April 01 2012 00:30 GMT
#261
You got AZKed
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 01 2012 00:40 GMT
#262
You just got April son.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
April 01 2012 00:41 GMT
#263
On April 01 2012 09:12 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 09:11 kevinthemighty wrote:
On April 01 2012 08:50 Eclypsia wrote:
With all this turmoil around us, we owe you an explanation. See you in 12 hours (2 pm CET) on our website which will turn into a press release. A statement which we hope will clarify things. http://www.eclypsia.com

Published on https://www.facebook.com/EclypsiaCOM


Pretty stupid. You owe Welmu an explanation, and Welmu is satisfied, he can tell us what you've agreed upon.

I can't stand the constant need for organizations to send public messages for what should otherwise be private/internal dealings. Welmu created the thread out of necessity due to his inability to privately contact you guys. Now that the public has rallied to get your attention, settle things with him, and allow him to clear things up.

Unless something that he's saying is completely off-base, there's no need for you to create a "public statement" since you should have been responsible to deal with this internally to begin with. Sure, your brand has been tarnished, but the best way it can be restored is to appropriately make amends with the one who has been victimized.

This whole announcement of an announcement thing has gotten out of hand.


You still haven't figured out this is just a publicity stunt?
99% sure Welmu and the other guys are just playing along

Either way its a pretty sad stunt or action. If they actually want to get business out of this in the long run I doubt it succeeds. Maybe its just their idea of a shitty joke though.
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
April 01 2012 00:43 GMT
#264
On April 01 2012 09:12 Jakkerr wrote:

You still haven't figured out this is just a publicity stunt?
99% sure Welmu and the other guys are just playing along


This would be a silly joke that will only hurt their team - if it's even a joke.

Something such as Blizzard's last April Fools patch notes were funny.
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
April 01 2012 00:45 GMT
#265
It isnt even april yet either.
Signum
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada99 Posts
April 01 2012 00:46 GMT
#266
On April 01 2012 09:21 HydraFucaZ wrote:
bad pr is bad pr...

and yet, having never heard of them before; they've managed to file themselves away in the SC2 portion of my brain.
bad pr is good pr.

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Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 00:49:21
April 01 2012 00:48 GMT
#267
If this turns out to be a hoax (which it pretty much does at this point...) doesn't it violate TL's advertisement policy?
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 01 2012 00:49 GMT
#268
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On April 01 2012 09:30 Heathen wrote:
You got AZKed


Oh my goodness, this made me laugh so hard. Thank you man, thank you so much.


I'm going to go ahead and assume, especially with this going to be the first press release on the site that this is in fact an april fools joke. Personally, I love the kind of april fools joke that really makes people question stuff, gets the brain working and thinking!

If this is not an april fools joke... because I'd feel so bad for Slog.. and Eclypsia looked really promising ;~; Plus, the above would just make me look like a jerk >.>
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 01 2012 00:55 GMT
#269
I feel bad for the players, but if this is an April Fools joke, some dude or group really had a lot of fucking free time to put this together.
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
April 01 2012 01:03 GMT
#270
I would've said "wtf" when they told me to pay for everything, don't trust people when they say they will pay you back especially if their name is gus
motionSIGN
Profile Joined December 2011
Andorra45 Posts
April 01 2012 01:12 GMT
#271
i almost fapped on their tralier : /

Such a shame they are douchbag in esport... Serisously i was almost fan just with their videomaking and now... WHAT ? SERIOUSLY ?!... I hope their video maker will find a new team, Fnatic maybe ? : D
Meeeow
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
April 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#272
I understand your situation. but u shoulda waited a little longer b4 making public announcement.
yes
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 01 2012 01:47 GMT
#273
OP, that was seriously crazy that that kind of stuff still happens in this sport. I'm really sorry for you and hope you do eventually get compensated at least.
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svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
April 01 2012 01:52 GMT
#274
Come on, dude.

Having to pay for your own travel expenses, expecting to be reimbursed, didn't set off any alarms?
HydraFucaZ
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
April 01 2012 01:57 GMT
#275
On April 01 2012 10:52 svefnleysi wrote:
Come on, dude.

Having to pay for your own travel expenses, expecting to be reimbursed, didn't set off any alarms?


Some organizations do this actually, and it's totally fine. As long as you have a contract.
http://www.gamersleague.no
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
April 01 2012 02:00 GMT
#276
any pr is good pr
ZardumSC2
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 02:55:12
April 01 2012 02:54 GMT
#277
Its probably just an April's Fool from Eclyspia and its players, if its not, lesson learned I hope.
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Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
April 01 2012 03:07 GMT
#278
On April 01 2012 01:40 mockturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:02 Welmu wrote:
Hello guys,

I joined a new team, Eclypsia, on March 8th. I put a lot of confidence in them, declining other offers. Eclypsia seemed very ambitious with a large budget, good contacts and a solid plan to give the players they recruited the best possible conditions to improve. Everything went fine at first, wages paid by the hour, very good coaching, superb communication. No reason to worry.

Then the Copenhagen Games approached. In accordance with what had been agreed, I booked the hotel and flight myself, on the understanding I’d be payed back along with my salary... But my salary has not been paid for nearly two weeks. In that time I’ve had enormous problems getting in touch with representatives of the team. It seemed hard to believe that this was a coincidence and I started to worry a lot.

After speaking to my teammates it seems that I am far from alone in this case. Eclypsia seems to have stopped responding.

I didn’t want to have to resort to these methods, but it seems obvious now that I will not receive my salary, that the countdown to the launch of their website www.eclypsia.com was actually a scam, and that they have screwed us.

Welmu


So you changed your ID to represent this new team, they paid you some money but not all they promised, and then tricked you into buying your own plane ticket?

You were not screwed. This is not called a "scam". This is called "a group of children playing at business and someone fell down and skinned his knee". Change your ID back and enjoy the trip you paid for.

Hilarious @ everyone telling you to sue. As if a typical pro Starcraft player contract is for enough of a salary to cover the cost of office supplies and gas to file the lawsuit.

Are you joking? I know april fools day (here atleast) is tomorrow so are you trying to troll or something? He hasn't been paid, hasn't been able to contact his employers for 2 weeks, an apparently the same for players on the team. This is a pretty serious situation an you taking it lightly like this is just wrong so I think you need to straighten up man cause this is disgustingly wrong.
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OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
April 01 2012 03:50 GMT
#279
The same thing recently happened to me. I was sent a cheque in the mail and asked to return the funds immediately, before the cheque cleared. The cheque did not clear.

I am informing the democratic republic of Zaire and everyone on TL.net to watch out for such activity
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
April 01 2012 03:55 GMT
#280
On April 01 2012 03:38 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 03:34 NexUmbra wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:16 SolHeiM wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:11 NexUmbra wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:50 SolHeiM wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:43 -Trippin- wrote:
Imagine of this really is just an April fools joke. All the people who posted above me would look so god damn retarded.


This is the worst April Fool's joke ever, if it's an April Fool's joke. I once thought it would be a funny April Fool's joke to get a genuine HIV test, and change everything so that it says that I'm HIV positive and post it on my facebook wall because I thought it would be funny. Thankfully I thought twice and realized that the potential future negative aspects of claiming I have HIV when I do not severely outweighed anything positive that could come out of it.

That is sort of the equivalent of what this is, because even if it was a joke, it's a joke that hurts Eclypsia more than it gains them anything. It doesn't display good humor and doesn't put their organization in a positive light what so ever. If this is a joke I would expect sponsors to pull out immediately. I wouldn't want my brand associated with an organization whose management thinks it's funny to announce to the world that they're a shit organization who won't reimburse players for flights and hotel, dodges attempted communication and potentially runs off with sponsor money.


Well there is a famous phrase "bad publicity is good publicity" and because Eclypsia are not a well known team maybe they are doing this just to get publicity. I mean it would fucking so stupid but more stupid things have been done.


No. The famous phrase is, (and I'm paraphrasing), ~Any publicity is good publicity~ Bad publicity is the exact opposite of good, which is bad. This is not in any way good publicity. This only hurts their organization.


Good publicity = Good publicity

Bad(any) publicity = Good publicity

Hence any publicity = Good publicity... same thing said differently...

Also you can't compare this to orb, soooooooooooooooooo different.


The orb situation blasted EG with so much bad publicity that they were forced to fire him. Can you explain that to me how it was good publicity for EG or orb? All forms of publicity are not created equal. There is a point of no return where bad publicity hurts the organization.

It's a discussion on when publicity hurts organizations. It's not different at all, because in both cases it will end up hurting the organization.


It was good in the manner that EG made a statement and obliged with the community so to speak. This made them "heroes" in a sense, they showed that they do not tolerate racism and they did the right thing etc etc. They took a stand and ppl will applaude shit like that.
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