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Romulox
Profile Joined October 2011
United States125 Posts
February 04 2012 07:49 GMT
#1
I know very little about this guy and his liquipedia page is pretty much deserted other than the fact he popularized the immediate worker transfer once you take your natural and this was named after him. All I really found was he was a BW pro and retired in 2000. But I mention this because while I was searching through the NA daily playhem results and I saw this guys name a ton. Sine January 1st he has 6 1sts, 3 2nds and 2 3rds. I would love any information people have on Maynard and what anyone knows about his current mindset towards sc2. He obviously has some immense starcraft skill and everyone knows we could use more top quality American terrans. Thanks for any thing you might be able to share.
mahi29
Profile Joined May 2011
United States235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 07:53:33
February 04 2012 07:52 GMT
#2
I don't think they're the same person.
See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308886&currentpage=2
The OP in that thread - the organizer of Playhem? - says they are 2 different people, but he could be wrong.
Someone said he could be MarineKingPrime.We
The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
February 04 2012 07:53 GMT
#3
I don't feel this is worthy of a topic, but I admit that I'm really interested in this guy. He seems to be really good. Would be good to get more information.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
February 04 2012 07:53 GMT
#4
I was told before it was a smurf account of a well known terran, not positive on that tho.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
February 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#5
Very old school player I was like 12 when played this guy on b.net there was no ladder like iccup, pgtour and so on back then. One of the best at bw at this time. Don't know much about him tough i think that in one period he was part of GG team ( not gosugamers) wih Elky, and so on
Power is nothing without control
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
February 04 2012 07:55 GMT
#6
real maynard is a lawyer in CA now iirc
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 04 2012 07:55 GMT
#7
Can someone possibly find some replays and do some hotkey analysis with famous pro terrans?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 04 2012 07:58 GMT
#8
prob the real maynard since we played during beta, he's always been quite active on liquidpoker, you can always message him there, his id is still Maynard
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
February 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#9
Someone told me its thorzain before but I don't think its reliable. I've also heard its some korean.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
February 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#10
I don't think it could be Thorzain, since we're talking about early stages of BW, when the term 'to maynard' was estabilished.
protect me from what I want
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 04 2012 08:12 GMT
#11
holy fuck guys it's not thorzain it's maynard and he's from usa
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
February 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#12
BW Maynard made a blog on here about him getting into SC2 some time ago too
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
February 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#13
How can he play in these Playhem's everyday while being a lawyer or whatever?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
February 04 2012 08:18 GMT
#14
Maynard has said that his starcraft playing days were a waste time.

see here:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/920683/all/Maynard.html
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 04 2012 08:30 GMT
#15
I'll just ask Maynard next time I see him online but I'm like 99.99% sure it's not him. He's still good, but not THAT good.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 04 2012 08:30 GMT
#16
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.
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Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 08:34:04
February 04 2012 08:31 GMT
#17
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 04 2012 08:31 GMT
#18
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 04 2012 08:33 GMT
#19
On February 04 2012 17:31 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra


Cool, last time I saw him play was against Destiny during our marathon and he had skills but nothing crazy. Cool to see he's been playing a lot again.
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Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 04 2012 08:33 GMT
#20
On February 04 2012 17:31 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra


Are you confirming 100% that its the real Maynard?
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 04 2012 08:37 GMT
#21
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
February 04 2012 08:37 GMT
#22
Pretty sure BW Maynard plays SC2... and if he's as good in SC2 as he was in BW, the playhem results shouldn't be that surprising.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 08:39:54
February 04 2012 08:39 GMT
#23
On February 04 2012 17:31 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra


Not age-wise, but this guy played BW before patch 1.08. In SC time, he is Leif Ericson.
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pzu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden287 Posts
February 04 2012 08:41 GMT
#24
On February 04 2012 17:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:31 ReignFayth wrote:
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra

In SC time, he is Leif Ericson.


... :D
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
February 04 2012 08:59 GMT
#25
He at the very least does play SC2

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=262843
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
February 04 2012 09:16 GMT
#26
If you want to brush up on your SC history, you should check out the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154789 Just check out the "Book of Starcraft" and you will find the answers you seek....
Old School.....
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
February 04 2012 09:48 GMT
#27
If this is him:

http://www.perkinscoie.com/mbombach/

... then he and I have downright eerily similar career trajectories.

1. Similar undergrad degrees, obtained a year apart
2. Both worked at Raytheon (albeit different divisions) for a few years before going to law school,
3. Both got JDs, obtained 2 years apart
4. Both going into patent litigation

Weird.
No relation to Monsieur J.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
February 04 2012 11:59 GMT
#28
On February 04 2012 17:37 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.


I would really like to ask him why he called himself maynard, it is a pretty obscure name after all :p
The world is ending what should we do about it?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 04 2012 17:47 GMT
#29
On February 04 2012 20:59 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:37 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.


I would really like to ask him why he called himself maynard, it is a pretty obscure name after all :p


Huh. I never did think of that, but it makes a lot of sense. But Keynes's name is nowhere near obscure these days.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 17:53:23
February 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#30
He's not the maynard you are thinking of. Hes a korean terran smurfing.

Also if you look at his game vs non known zerg's he'll pretty much 2 rax every time. Literally every time which if you know any korean top players the top terran korean players say they'll 2 rax a foreigner they don't know of every time because they don't think they are good enough to fend it off.
JD, need I say more? :D
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
February 04 2012 17:56 GMT
#31
On February 04 2012 17:31 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I think it's a person who just made an account after an important player in SC history. Good god, if the real Maynard were still playing, he'd make White Ra look like a kid.

he's the real one

and I don't think he's even older than white ra


You have no proof backing up what you are saying. The owner of Playhem even said it was a korean smurf.

On February 04 2012 20:59 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:37 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.


I would really like to ask him why he called himself maynard, it is a pretty obscure name after all :p


Probably named himself after the lead singer of Tool (Maynard James Keenan)
AtlasJQ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 17:58:00
February 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#32
The real Maynard exists and hangs w some of his old school buddies on bnet. He's a roughly 1000pts masters Zerg nowadays. I can confirm eth playhem Maynard is not the original Warcraft 2 one.
An old schooler from Katans Lair and Mavens Haven - | - Fav SC accomplishment: Beating SSamjang in the first i2e2. Yes, that SSamjang. I am old :(
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
February 04 2012 17:59 GMT
#33
Maybe it's a Maynard Ferguson fan....=(
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 04 2012 18:07 GMT
#34
On February 05 2012 02:57 AtlasJQ wrote:
The real Maynard exists and hangs w some of his old school buddies on bnet. He's a roughly 1000pts masters Zerg nowadays. I can confirm eth playhem Maynard is not the original Warcraft 2 one.


Yea, I'd highly doubt the real Maynard has time to play that many playhems, etc. He's older and is a lawyer... doesn't exactly leave much time for gaming.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 04 2012 18:13 GMT
#35
I'm 99.9% sure that it's not the real Maynard.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
February 04 2012 18:16 GMT
#36
Someone get replays I will compare hotkeys between him and top korean terrans.
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Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
February 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#37
Maynard, AKA KGOR. Considering by many to be a prodigy at his time. Career became famous by winning tournaments and being the most creative player next to Agent911 during his time. Played Terran and Zerg as far as I remember. Invented the Maynard transfer which shocked everyone. When the Koreans started to take over the game, many foreigners phased out in terms of relavence, perhaps to play poker. He also played WC3 and was insanely good at the time with orcs, before TFT. Basically one of the first to destroy with Tauren Chieftan first. Was a great shockwave user.
If he was a foreigner playing SC2 full time today, we could probably compare him to Kiwikaki in terms of strategy micro and stephano in terms of success
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#38
Cartel, why do you make such assumptions? Pretty silly if you ask me.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
February 04 2012 18:23 GMT
#39
If Fake Boxer was Foxer, do we call this guy Faynard?
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 04 2012 18:23 GMT
#40
Two replays of Maynard:
http://www.mediafire.com/?n29v4bc39aygupi
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 04 2012 18:23 GMT
#41
On February 04 2012 20:59 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:37 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.


I would really like to ask him why he called himself maynard, it is a pretty obscure name after all :p


I almost named my first son Maynard >.<
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#42
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
February 04 2012 18:28 GMT
#43
On February 05 2012 03:20 Pokebunny wrote:
Cartel, why do you make such assumptions? Pretty silly if you ask me.


Let me correct myself. What I meant was at the time you could view him as a person who is a cross between those two players. Not if he played today he would be so and so.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
February 04 2012 18:29 GMT
#44
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah, AFAIK, he's only really known for moving workers from 1 base to another which is a completely epic thing to be known for because its so obvious if you look back on it.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
February 04 2012 18:29 GMT
#45
He isn't marinekingprime, mma, or bomber. I'll check more. If anyone has replays that are confirmed to be the real maynard those would be the most helpful.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
xxjondxx
Profile Joined February 2010
United States89 Posts
February 04 2012 18:30 GMT
#46
Does anyone remember in the beta when some of the casters first heard of the Maynard transfer and they literally said it 10 times per game every game.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 04 2012 18:32 GMT
#47
What maynard should really be remembered for is like making 3 bases before a unit or something silly like that. He was beyond Idra powering player at times and in money matches.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12793 Posts
February 04 2012 18:39 GMT
#48
On February 05 2012 03:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
He isn't marinekingprime, mma, or bomber. I'll check more. If anyone has replays that are confirmed to be the real maynard those would be the most helpful.

You shouod not check the top terrans. If any of those really participated in playhem, they would crush them, not finish 2nd or 3rd. So it's probably a B teamer terran, who has not a salary etc and want some money?
WriterMaru
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 18:46:52
February 04 2012 18:46 GMT
#49
On February 05 2012 03:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
He isn't marinekingprime, mma, or bomber. I'll check more. If anyone has replays that are confirmed to be the real maynard those would be the most helpful.

You shouod not check the top terrans. If any of those really participated in playhem, they would crush them, not finish 2nd or 3rd. So it's probably a B teamer terran, who has not a salary etc and want some money?

Gimme some examples.

So far ive checked MKP, Bomber, Puma, MMA, Keen, MVP, TheSTC, SelecT, aLive, Thorzain, beastyqt, empirehappy, kas, brat_ok, boxer, poltprime, ogstop, Jinro, tarson, slayersdragon, and probably a few others. Basically went down the list of replays at gosugamers.net and checked most of the terrans.

I'd be willing to believe its the real maynard if fayth isnt joking as he would be a person that would know that kind of thing. If anyone wants me to check if its someone, lemme know. Im stopping for now though.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12793 Posts
February 04 2012 18:50 GMT
#50
On February 05 2012 03:46 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:39 Poopi wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
He isn't marinekingprime, mma, or bomber. I'll check more. If anyone has replays that are confirmed to be the real maynard those would be the most helpful.

You shouod not check the top terrans. If any of those really participated in playhem, they would crush them, not finish 2nd or 3rd. So it's probably a B teamer terran, who has not a salary etc and want some money?

Gimme some examples.

So far ive checked MKP, Bomber, Puma, MMA, Keen, MVP, TheSTC, SelecT, aLive, Thorzain, beastyqt, empirehappy, kas, brat_ok, boxer, poltprime, ogstop, Jinro, tarson, slayersdragon, and probably a few others. Basically went down the list of replays at gosugamers.net and checked most of the terrans.

I'd be willing to believe its the real maynard if fayth isnt joking as he would be a person that would know that kind of thing. If anyone wants me to check if its someone, lemme know. Im stopping for now though.


You won't find him if he is a B teamer because he has not enteref foreign tournaments etc.
The best way would be to ask them directly.
WriterMaru
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
February 04 2012 18:51 GMT
#51
On February 04 2012 17:12 ReignFayth wrote:
holy fuck guys it's not thorzain it's maynard and he's from usa


The guys that run playhem have already said this is NOT the real maynard but just someone with his name. So calm down killer.
alepoff
Profile Joined January 2012
140 Posts
February 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#52
On February 05 2012 03:29 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah, AFAIK, he's only really known for moving workers from 1 base to another which is a completely epic thing to be known for because its so obvious if you look back on it.

So the "maynard transfer" is just transferring workers to another base, that's it? I don't understand how people seem to find this impressive. Did others not transfer workers before he did it? It's like the most logical thing.
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 04 2012 18:57 GMT
#53
its Heart
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
February 04 2012 18:57 GMT
#54
On February 05 2012 03:53 alepoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:29 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah, AFAIK, he's only really known for moving workers from 1 base to another which is a completely epic thing to be known for because its so obvious if you look back on it.

So the "maynard transfer" is just transferring workers to another base, that's it? I don't understand how people seem to find this impressive. Did others not transfer workers before he did it? It's like the most logical thing.

When starcraft 1 first came out you have to understand that people had literally 0 idea of how to play. So no, people didnt transfer workers. They may not have even produced enough to do a transfer. He was the first to do it afaik, or at least he popularized it. Seems simple, but its hard to say if you would figure it out in the same amount of time he did given the circumstances.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 19:02:35
February 04 2012 19:01 GMT
#55
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?
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Bio
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada185 Posts
February 04 2012 19:08 GMT
#56
I have asked him in private myself, and he is NOT the real Maynard... who specifically it is I'm not sure, but he's not the original, so let's set that aside please, this is painful.
"Oh no, he has run out of..... base!"
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
February 04 2012 19:11 GMT
#57
On February 05 2012 04:08 Bio wrote:
I have asked him in private myself, and he is NOT the real Maynard... who specifically it is I'm not sure, but he's not the original, so let's set that aside please, this is painful.


I think we came to the conclusion we already knew it wasnt maynard and someone suggested TSLHeat and his hotkeys in replays seem to confirm it.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
February 04 2012 19:12 GMT
#58
Lol, I have a friend at SC2 called Maynard, terran player ;d, 100% sure it's not the same tho ^^
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OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
February 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#59
It's Maynard James Keenan





I wish :D
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AtlasJQ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada138 Posts
February 04 2012 19:19 GMT
#60
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah this is me. We've recently gotten some of the old gang together and we chill in #kali on BNET. Anyways Maynard does exist, plays regularly, is not the guy from Playhem, *is* still a viciously good player, was part of that first generation of great thinkers who really carved out some of those first strategies in Starcraft 1, might not have won everything but he sure has heck was a huge part of that original community, and hooray for Starcraft history!

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88fingers
Profile Joined January 2009
United States3 Posts
February 04 2012 19:26 GMT
#61
I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE

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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 04 2012 21:42 GMT
#62
On February 05 2012 03:57 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:53 alepoff wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:29 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah, AFAIK, he's only really known for moving workers from 1 base to another which is a completely epic thing to be known for because its so obvious if you look back on it.

So the "maynard transfer" is just transferring workers to another base, that's it? I don't understand how people seem to find this impressive. Did others not transfer workers before he did it? It's like the most logical thing.

When starcraft 1 first came out you have to understand that people had literally 0 idea of how to play. So no, people didnt transfer workers. They may not have even produced enough to do a transfer. He was the first to do it afaik, or at least he popularized it. Seems simple, but its hard to say if you would figure it out in the same amount of time he did given the circumstances.


I don't believe this at all, age of empires came out a bit earlier i think (1997) and transfering workers from one resource to another was really common in that game. I don't think Maynard invented it, he just popularised it. Such a simple thing as Maynarding isn't really invented anyone with a brain thought of it by themselves eventually. Tons of stuff get's credited to pro's while they weren't the first to do it, actually proofing or disproofing such things is ofcourse impossible...
88fingers
Profile Joined January 2009
United States3 Posts
February 04 2012 21:51 GMT
#63
The majority of the players who dominated the first few years of SC came from playing very competitvely WAR2 on Kali.
The level of competition on Kali was way above anything bnet had to offer for a long time.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
February 04 2012 21:55 GMT
#64
the real maynard is "seriousgamer" plays zerg, not terran iirc.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 04 2012 21:59 GMT
#65
I don't think that is BW Maynard that popularized making workers all game and putting pylons in the mineral line to block workers.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#66
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
February 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#67
It would be so sick if it was the real maynard :D but it is more likely Heart or another korean terran!
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
February 04 2012 22:15 GMT
#68
Do any of you actually watch playhem? They say repeatedly that he is not THE maynard from BW.
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KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#69
wow really maynard? that would be epic.
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#70
On February 05 2012 07:00 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say


I know the person who owns this Maynard account, they let Heart play on it.
Antares_
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland269 Posts
February 04 2012 22:33 GMT
#71
If you don't know, Maynard (the real-life person, full name Maynard James Keenan) is a frontman and singer for the bands Tool, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer. I think that there is a high possibility of the man being a metalhead and a fan of those bands, so he named himself Maynard
If you make no mistake, yet still lose - you don't understand the game. Spiral out, keep going.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 04 2012 22:46 GMT
#72
On February 05 2012 03:57 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:53 alepoff wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:29 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:25 Eliezar wrote:
Maynard was a great player and I haven't talked to him in years, but...all this talk of Maynard winning stuff is a bit odd. I can't remember him winning anything of note (neither PGL, wasn't in the BW ladder tournaments, lost all the I2E2 tournaments as I believe he lost to a DT rush in the one final he made). Khalsa sent him to Korea and only Grrr had any real success there out of the 4 Khalsa sent. He then went a different direction altogether.

And of everybody in this thread my guess is the person to look at is Atlas as Atlas (assuming he's Atlas) has known Maynard for a long time.


Yeah, AFAIK, he's only really known for moving workers from 1 base to another which is a completely epic thing to be known for because its so obvious if you look back on it.

So the "maynard transfer" is just transferring workers to another base, that's it? I don't understand how people seem to find this impressive. Did others not transfer workers before he did it? It's like the most logical thing.

When starcraft 1 first came out you have to understand that people had literally 0 idea of how to play. So no, people didnt transfer workers. They may not have even produced enough to do a transfer. He was the first to do it afaik, or at least he popularized it. Seems simple, but its hard to say if you would figure it out in the same amount of time he did given the circumstances.


it's similiar to magic boxing versus splash damage. now a standard, but when it came out everyone was like woooah
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
February 04 2012 22:56 GMT
#73
On February 04 2012 20:59 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 17:37 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On February 04 2012 17:31 Surili wrote:
As a politics student I have always found it interesting that the person who invented the worker transfer uses the id of the middle name of john maynard keynes, the most influencial political economist of the twentieth century, who purported sacrificing capital when you are rich in order to smooth growth out when you are poor :d

Edit, tried to make my terrible eight o'clock in the morning english make sense.


Lmao it was his self-written destiny.


I would really like to ask him why he called himself maynard, it is a pretty obscure name after all :p


Maynard isn't obscure at all, it's a common last name.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
February 04 2012 22:57 GMT
#74
I remember hearing a lot about this guy with regard to the worker transfer back in the beta days, but not too much lately.
Neplusultra
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 23:23:01
February 04 2012 23:22 GMT
#75
On February 05 2012 07:00 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say


The real Maynard did play sc2 a bit around Sept. he was attempting to get GM and almost attended MLG Anaheim. He was top masters as Z, and this playhem guy is T.. Seems like a Korean T smurf account.

I found all this out by searching his post history in his recent blogs.
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
February 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#76
On February 05 2012 07:00 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say


God forbid there are people with the same id on battle.net

I guess the person I just randomly played name Alive is TSL_Alive right? Or maybe the person with the name JulyZerg is ST_July right?

Why are individuals so naive about names on bnet 2.0? There are char codes for a reason and its for this reason that name trumping others is so easy to do let alone its so easy for people to believe just that based on assumptions.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#77
playhem Maynard has to be korean. Too good to be a white kid imo.
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
February 04 2012 23:35 GMT
#78
On February 05 2012 08:33 LuckyFool wrote:
playhem Maynard has to be korean. Too good to be a white kid imo.


You're too good to be a white kid Rob. What'cha gonna say about that? ^_-;;
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
February 04 2012 23:45 GMT
#79
On February 05 2012 08:30 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:00 ReignFayth wrote:
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say


God forbid there are people with the same id on battle.net

I guess the person I just randomly played name Alive is TSL_Alive right? Or maybe the person with the name JulyZerg is ST_July right?

Why are individuals so naive about names on bnet 2.0? There are char codes for a reason and its for this reason that name trumping others is so easy to do let alone its so easy for people to believe just that based on assumptions.


i beat EGHuK the other day on ladder. then i played SlayerSBoXeR a while back. BoXeR cannon rushed me and left when it failed. seems legit.
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babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
February 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#80
On February 05 2012 03:46 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:39 Poopi wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
He isn't marinekingprime, mma, or bomber. I'll check more. If anyone has replays that are confirmed to be the real maynard those would be the most helpful.

You shouod not check the top terrans. If any of those really participated in playhem, they would crush them, not finish 2nd or 3rd. So it's probably a B teamer terran, who has not a salary etc and want some money?

Gimme some examples.

So far ive checked MKP, Bomber, Puma, MMA, Keen, MVP, TheSTC, SelecT, aLive, Thorzain, beastyqt, empirehappy, kas, brat_ok, boxer, poltprime, ogstop, Jinro, tarson, slayersdragon, and probably a few others. Basically went down the list of replays at gosugamers.net and checked most of the terrans.

I'd be willing to believe its the real maynard if fayth isnt joking as he would be a person that would know that kind of thing. If anyone wants me to check if its someone, lemme know. Im stopping for now though.


Check Bitbybit.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
February 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#81
IMO that could be just as well Day[J]'s Terran smurf account.
Would not surprise me one ... BitByBit ! :D
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FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
February 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#82
On February 05 2012 08:45 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 08:30 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
On February 05 2012 07:00 ReignFayth wrote:
On February 05 2012 04:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 05 2012 03:57 nGBeast wrote:
its Heart

He's right hotkeys confirm it.

Kind of disappointing its not the real maynard. Fayth why would you lie?

I don't know wtf is going on in the playhems i don't follow that

all I know is maynard plays SC2, the real one, and he also plays under the id Maynard

wtf do u want me to say


God forbid there are people with the same id on battle.net

I guess the person I just randomly played name Alive is TSL_Alive right? Or maybe the person with the name JulyZerg is ST_July right?

Why are individuals so naive about names on bnet 2.0? There are char codes for a reason and its for this reason that name trumping others is so easy to do let alone its so easy for people to believe just that based on assumptions.


i beat EGHuK the other day on ladder. then i played SlayerSBoXeR a while back. BoXeR cannon rushed me and left when it failed. seems legit.


Sounds like it. Need to go flaunt those replays because people believe they're real.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
February 05 2012 00:17 GMT
#83
On February 05 2012 06:55 rauk wrote:
the real maynard is "seriousgamer" plays zerg, not terran iirc.


That's right. I played some games with him and he has good fundamentals like he always did, but nothing that approaches a world-class player in the realm of GSL competition.

Anyway turns out the Playhem guy is Heart, so question answered.
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