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Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
January 21 2012 09:12 GMT
#81
I think USA as a very strong culture but compared to a lot of other cultures, it's not even close to be as huge. Don't forget USA is a 300 years old country. Most of your culture comes from others. That's what i love the most i think.

It's not a bad thing to not have an old culture, sometimes you don't get the shit other have.
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
January 21 2012 09:13 GMT
#82
Of course the USA has culture. Just because several people might not like the US government or even the attitude of its people doesn't mean they can deny that several significant things have originated from there in its very short lifetime as a nation. I actually have heard a few people say "the USA has no culture" a few times, and I'm not even sure where it comes from. Maybe because not *every* American person likes/does the exact same thing? That'd be nonsense, because I'm pretty sure not every Frenchman likes wine.

PS: Wasn't baseball heavily influenced from a sport played in Britain? I know it became what it is today in the USA probably enough to be called an American invention, but if what I know about it's previous iteration is correct, I think it's unfair to say baseball is a purely American sport without at least explaining one's reasoning in parenthesis. I'll give you basketball, but it's not 100% clear itself.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 21 2012 09:15 GMT
#83
America literally exports its culture. There is Coca-Cola and McDonald's in nearly every country on earth. Anyone who thinks we have no culture is incredibly stupid.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
January 21 2012 09:16 GMT
#84
What are you talking about?

Next time post a valid example of the other side of the argument. Right now this is "someone said something stupid on the internet so I made a post saying he was wrong"
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
January 21 2012 09:17 GMT
#85
On January 21 2012 18:10 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 18:03 zalz wrote:
On January 21 2012 18:00 Chaosvuistje wrote:
If America did not have a culture the government wouldn't be able to steer them. The US is a huge country, and diversity in moral values exists in all the states. It may not have a single overwhelming majority across all the states, but neither does Russia or China. And to say that China does not have a culture would be pretty outrageous. They may not have a long history like European countries, but is that really a requirement to culture? I wouldn't say so.

It's probably just an uneducated European that shouts that kind of bull just in the name of being anti-america.


Irony has it that China actually undertook a very severe attempt at destroying it's own culture.


Currently China very much embraces its culture and its past.

Nevertheless, elements of traditional Chinese culture will always survive in Taiwan, Japan, and Korea. Sometimes Chinese culture is preserved more in those countries than in mainland China itself.


I know, but it's amusing to realize that not even 50 years ago they were tearing down any link to the past they could get their hands on whilst many consider them so deeply cultural.
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
January 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#86
I think, when people are saying "Americans have no culture", they actually mean to say "Americans dont give a shit what happened or happens outside of the US (and this is a bad thing)".
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
January 21 2012 09:24 GMT
#87
By saying "Americans have no culture" people are as ignorant as the Americans they complain about....
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 21 2012 09:29 GMT
#88
I MUST POST IN THIS THREAD
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Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
January 21 2012 09:32 GMT
#89
On January 21 2012 16:38 Nothingtosay wrote:

" We Created baseball "


I'm sorry OP .. But the US didn't creat basebal! Yes, they are well known for it but it origins start in france and england
Second place is just a fancy term for loser
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 21 2012 09:33 GMT
#90
The only reference to the contrary that I've come across is Russell Peters discussing this in one of his skits.
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
January 21 2012 09:36 GMT
#91
the game's most direct antecedents are the English games of stoolball and "tut-ball".
Second place is just a fancy term for loser
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
January 21 2012 09:39 GMT
#92
America definitely has a culture, but in terms of complexity and depth, it cannot come close to the rest of the more deep rooted cultures, simply because it's a relatively new country. However, it is very good at marketing its own culture. For example I'm a Turk living in Istanbul, and I regularly see people prepare a small christmas tree for the new year, especially in wealthy, upper class families. Ofcourse this isn't widespread, as Istanbul is a different case, sort of like America, a patchwork of many cultures (Islam, Ottoman, Greek, Armenia(you'd be surprised how many dishes in Turkish cuisine originate from Armenia) and certainly the Western culture ) You'd be an outcast if you did that in some rural Anatolian town.

"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 21 2012 09:41 GMT
#93
1st: good point
2nd: that just a proof for every negative stereotype there is, how an earth does this help your cause?
3rd: good point
4th: ohm, okey, other nations erected more significant monuments hundreds years before, without any modern technology
5th: if that's thanksgiving night meal i just wanna inform you that's just an adoptation of harvest-celebrating holidays which are around since forever

I'm not saying that Americans are cultureless, ofc they arent, but you make a pretty weak cause imo
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g.
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia123 Posts
January 21 2012 09:42 GMT
#94
you do realise that baseball wasnt created in America?
Roro row your boat, Soulkey up the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
January 21 2012 09:49 GMT
#95
I think you just proved them wrong with everything you listed in the OP...
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g.
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 09:51:33
January 21 2012 09:50 GMT
#96
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g.
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia123 Posts
January 21 2012 09:51 GMT
#97
On January 21 2012 18:50 g. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 17:36 christophequirion wrote:
In numerous languages, culture = tradition and\or knowledge. American popular culture is the world most dominant culture by far. Very few people disagree. But the common cliché is that people living in USA are poorly informed, aware of what is happening in the rest of the world + lack of basic general knowledge (even the political "elites", CF the Republican primaries).

Capital of Morocco ? Speaking 3 languages ? year of gutenberg printing press invention ? Polical parties in India ? Basis of Kant's Philosophy ? Name of the President of China ?....





please dont take this the wrong way
Roro row your boat, Soulkey up the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Huckleuro
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
January 21 2012 09:53 GMT
#98
Never in my entire life have i ever heard anyone say that America has no culture.

TERRIBLE thread.

The only thing ive heard a lot is that your history is incredibly boring, for the simple reason that it is so very, very short. No other reason.
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
January 21 2012 09:53 GMT
#99
On January 21 2012 18:42 g. wrote:
you do realise that baseball wasnt created in America?

this
On January 21 2012 18:41 Geo.Rion wrote:
1st: good point
2nd: that just a proof for every negative stereotype there is, how an earth does this help your cause?
3rd: good point
4th: ohm, okey, other nations erected more significant monuments hundreds years before, without any modern technology
5th: if that's thanksgiving night meal i just wanna inform you that's just an adoptation of harvest-celebrating holidays which are around since forever

I'm not saying that Americans are cultureless, ofc they arent, but you make a pretty weak cause imo

this

On January 21 2012 18:39 Bleak wrote:
America definitely has a culture, but in terms of complexity and depth, it cannot come close to the rest of the more deep rooted cultures, simply because it's a relatively new country. However, it is very good at marketing its own culture. For example I'm a Turk living in Istanbul, and I regularly see people prepare a small christmas tree for the new year, especially in wealthy, upper class families. Ofcourse this isn't widespread, as Istanbul is a different case, sort of like America, a patchwork of many cultures (Islam, Ottoman, Greek, Armenia(you'd be surprised how many dishes in Turkish cuisine originate from Armenia) and certainly the Western culture ) You'd be an outcast if you did that in some rural Anatolian town.


and this.

pretty much sums it all up.
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aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 21 2012 09:55 GMT
#100
I have never heard anyone (who is sane) claim that America has no culture.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
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