• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:43
CET 20:43
KST 04:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational8SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
Starcraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1926 users

[D] Pro Scene Evolution - Page 212

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 328 Next
League of Legends Events browser add-ons
Firefox Chrome
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 17:30:58
September 24 2014 17:18 GMT
#4221
On September 25 2014 02:11 3 Lions wrote:
Imo Piglet should go to KTA.

Like yeah, Arrow's name suits his team really well. And that's pretty much it. During the Summer Final he was completely outclassed by Deft and he was basically useless in the series against NJWS.


> SKT T1.
> go to KT.

No.

On September 25 2014 02:22 AlterKot wrote:
what a fanboy

I'd love that transfer.


Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 24 2014 17:22 GMT
#4222
what a fanboy

I'd love that transfer.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:49:11
September 24 2014 20:01 GMT
#4223
http://www.teamcurse.net/news/29708-team-curse-adds-new-coach
Former LMQ coach PtotheD joins curse
https://www.facebook.com/KaBuM.eSports/photos/a.235615609921096.1073741828.234819290000728/379265788889410/?type=1&theater
Kabum forms new team Kabum black sword, Rafes (top), ReSet (jungle), Shadow (mid), Digolera (adc) and Espeon (support)
Glorious SEA doto
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 08:44:02
September 25 2014 06:39 GMT
#4224
On September 25 2014 01:47 AlterKot wrote:
I wonder if Piglet would really work that well in CRS, with no communication with the team and away from home. But well, if suddenly someone like Forgiven is just a second option, in case you don't get a former World Champion, then I guess things are going well for Curse :p Also, I wonder if it wouldn't be best for Curse to get a Chinese ADC, considering that Xpecial knows mandarin and all that.


Communication and pre-existing synergy is overrated.

Random trivia from the LPL stream of TW grp stage: UZI & Zero almost never communicate with each other during laning phase. Like bot lane is silent during laning phase even though they're one of the most trade-heavy ones. Also, Insec doesn't know(and doesn't seem interested to learn) mandarin.

If the members of a team are on the same page, have a common understanding of how to play the game and have enough faith in each other to play as they should, communication is excess, not necessity.

Piglet would be so wasted in CRS though, I hope he gets a good KR offer especially seeing how he doesn't seem to be plagued with attitude issues (*cough*insec*cough*) and has proven his worth (unlike Zero)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 25 2014 07:22 GMT
#4225
Don't think synergy and communication is overrated at all, but it's certainly no problem if you're that far ahead of your opponents, which should be the case for Piglet in NALCS and was also the case for SHRC at Worlds so far.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 25 2014 17:03 GMT
#4226
I don't think it's so obvious. It's widely agreed that SHRC play a very messy game, it's just that they have some of the most talented players. Additionally, I think they have someone on the coaching staff who speaks Korean, also Zero and Insec were already teammates so they can just talk to each other. Meanwhile Crs is a very methodical team, who might not be the best at reactive shotcalling, but generally rely heavily on prepared strategies which put them ahead early and/or mid game. I'm just not sure if that would be a good environment for Piglet to perform and whether lack of communication would really not hurt them.

Besides, I sometimes half-jokingly say that Xpecial makes every ADC he plays with look better than he really is. And while it may be simple coincidences: Wildturtle looked like a beast in S3, remove Xpecial and suddenly he only performs on Tristana. Doublelift had his best performance in S3 at All-stars. Cop had his probably best performance in his life in final week and playoff games. Not to mention S2 MVP Chaox who can't find a team ever since. So well, maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's just what Xpecial does in game, but I wouldn't be suprised if it also had to do with him telling his lane partners what to do.

On September 25 2014 02:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.

Is CJ Frost the #potential team of Korea now? I'd rather see him replace the one weak link on my favorite team, which btw actually achieved something this season, too bad it was against these samsung shitters and not some good team like T1K or Frost.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 22:11:34
September 25 2014 22:03 GMT
#4227
On September 26 2014 02:03 AlterKot wrote:
I don't think it's so obvious. It's widely agreed that SHRC play a very messy game, it's just that they have some of the most talented players. Additionally, I think they have someone on the coaching staff who speaks Korean, also Zero and Insec were already teammates so they can just talk to each other. Meanwhile Crs is a very methodical team, who might not be the best at reactive shotcalling, but generally rely heavily on prepared strategies which put them ahead early and/or mid game. I'm just not sure if that would be a good environment for Piglet to perform and whether lack of communication would really not hurt them.

Besides, I sometimes half-jokingly say that Xpecial makes every ADC he plays with look better than he really is. And while it may be simple coincidences: Wildturtle looked like a beast in S3, remove Xpecial and suddenly he only performs on Tristana. Doublelift had his best performance in S3 at All-stars. Cop had his probably best performance in his life in final week and playoff games. Not to mention S2 MVP Chaox who can't find a team ever since. So well, maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's just what Xpecial does in game, but I wouldn't be suprised if it also had to do with him telling his lane partners what to do.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 02:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.

Is CJ Frost the #potential team of Korea now? I'd rather see him replace the one weak link on my favorite team, which btw actually achieved something this season, too bad it was against these samsung shitters and not some good team like T1K or Frost.


What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

On September 26 2014 07:10 Fusilero wrote:

So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare


Still can't get over it, holy shit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#4228
https://twitter.com/domXtheXbomb/status/515247881906040832
So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare
Glorious SEA doto
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#4229
oGs Ensnare? loved his terran back in beta
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 26 2014 07:57 GMT
#4230
On September 26 2014 07:10 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/domXtheXbomb/status/515247881906040832
So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare



@_@
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 08:00:30
September 26 2014 08:00 GMT
#4231
He was amazing in the beta. One more SC2 player to add to the list of making a succesful transition to coaching League, while the list of succesful player transitions remains BW-only.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 26 2014 08:16 GMT
#4232
Wasn't ensnare the player who remained in code S for an obscene amount of seasons during GomTvT?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 08:54:37
September 26 2014 08:46 GMT
#4233
http://www.esl.eu/eu/team/7626896/
Alex's squad is cabochard/imsofresh/alex/jebus/dioud. Not bad actually

Former WC3 player and prime coach sweet joins Jin Air. Congratulations to sweet on being the first prime LoL member to not end up on a world elite squad!
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 26 2014 09:10 GMT
#4234
Is Prime still involved with LoL or did they give up on it?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 26 2014 09:19 GMT
#4235

Ye, just changing loads of rosters
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 26 2014 09:24 GMT
#4236
On September 26 2014 18:10 UmberBane wrote:
Is Prime still involved with LoL or did they give up on it?

Well, on their website they still list a League division, but they don't actually list any players/staff like they do for their SC section. So it's either lazy site management or they've currently scrapped things yet not given up on it.

http://scprime.cafe24.com/lol
http://scprime.cafe24.com/sc2
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 26 2014 09:32 GMT
#4237
Ah I see. I think it's funny that WE stole Prime's players, because when I started following them they were Prime.WE
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 26 2014 10:27 GMT
#4238
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 26 2014 12:36 GMT
#4239
On September 26 2014 19:27 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.

Ignore him. He's a massive CLG/SKT fan, which means he has poor taste.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 26 2014 15:46 GMT
#4240
On September 26 2014 19:27 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.


Practicing 16 hours in NA challenger every day.
Poor Piglet.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 328 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 206
UpATreeSC 180
ProTech133
OGKoka 112
BRAT_OK 88
MindelVK 20
JuggernautJason8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2277
Dewaltoss 139
Shuttle 130
actioN 107
EffOrt 94
Mini 75
Dota 2
qojqva3473
420jenkins393
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang099
Counter-Strike
fl0m5370
byalli870
rGuardiaN58
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3192
Liquid`Hasu350
Other Games
FrodaN1593
Beastyqt777
B2W.Neo446
allub371
DeMusliM242
Harstem232
Fuzer 178
ArmadaUGS134
QueenE78
Livibee37
KnowMe22
Mew2King7
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 76
• HeavenSC 37
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 13
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3828
League of Legends
• Nemesis2713
• TFBlade2239
Other Games
• imaqtpie1452
• Shiphtur195
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
15h 17m
ByuN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Rogue
OSC
15h 17m
RongYI Cup
1d 15h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
1d 21h
Serral vs TBD
RongYI Cup
2 days
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
RongYI Cup
3 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.