• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:41
CEST 04:41
KST 11:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon355.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)102
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 race war RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10882 users

[D] Pro Scene Evolution - Page 212

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 328 Next
League of Legends Events browser add-ons
Firefox Chrome
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 17:30:58
September 24 2014 17:18 GMT
#4221
On September 25 2014 02:11 3 Lions wrote:
Imo Piglet should go to KTA.

Like yeah, Arrow's name suits his team really well. And that's pretty much it. During the Summer Final he was completely outclassed by Deft and he was basically useless in the series against NJWS.


> SKT T1.
> go to KT.

No.

On September 25 2014 02:22 AlterKot wrote:
what a fanboy

I'd love that transfer.


Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 24 2014 17:22 GMT
#4222
what a fanboy

I'd love that transfer.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:49:11
September 24 2014 20:01 GMT
#4223
http://www.teamcurse.net/news/29708-team-curse-adds-new-coach
Former LMQ coach PtotheD joins curse
https://www.facebook.com/KaBuM.eSports/photos/a.235615609921096.1073741828.234819290000728/379265788889410/?type=1&theater
Kabum forms new team Kabum black sword, Rafes (top), ReSet (jungle), Shadow (mid), Digolera (adc) and Espeon (support)
Glorious SEA doto
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 08:44:02
September 25 2014 06:39 GMT
#4224
On September 25 2014 01:47 AlterKot wrote:
I wonder if Piglet would really work that well in CRS, with no communication with the team and away from home. But well, if suddenly someone like Forgiven is just a second option, in case you don't get a former World Champion, then I guess things are going well for Curse :p Also, I wonder if it wouldn't be best for Curse to get a Chinese ADC, considering that Xpecial knows mandarin and all that.


Communication and pre-existing synergy is overrated.

Random trivia from the LPL stream of TW grp stage: UZI & Zero almost never communicate with each other during laning phase. Like bot lane is silent during laning phase even though they're one of the most trade-heavy ones. Also, Insec doesn't know(and doesn't seem interested to learn) mandarin.

If the members of a team are on the same page, have a common understanding of how to play the game and have enough faith in each other to play as they should, communication is excess, not necessity.

Piglet would be so wasted in CRS though, I hope he gets a good KR offer especially seeing how he doesn't seem to be plagued with attitude issues (*cough*insec*cough*) and has proven his worth (unlike Zero)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 25 2014 07:22 GMT
#4225
Don't think synergy and communication is overrated at all, but it's certainly no problem if you're that far ahead of your opponents, which should be the case for Piglet in NALCS and was also the case for SHRC at Worlds so far.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 25 2014 17:03 GMT
#4226
I don't think it's so obvious. It's widely agreed that SHRC play a very messy game, it's just that they have some of the most talented players. Additionally, I think they have someone on the coaching staff who speaks Korean, also Zero and Insec were already teammates so they can just talk to each other. Meanwhile Crs is a very methodical team, who might not be the best at reactive shotcalling, but generally rely heavily on prepared strategies which put them ahead early and/or mid game. I'm just not sure if that would be a good environment for Piglet to perform and whether lack of communication would really not hurt them.

Besides, I sometimes half-jokingly say that Xpecial makes every ADC he plays with look better than he really is. And while it may be simple coincidences: Wildturtle looked like a beast in S3, remove Xpecial and suddenly he only performs on Tristana. Doublelift had his best performance in S3 at All-stars. Cop had his probably best performance in his life in final week and playoff games. Not to mention S2 MVP Chaox who can't find a team ever since. So well, maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's just what Xpecial does in game, but I wouldn't be suprised if it also had to do with him telling his lane partners what to do.

On September 25 2014 02:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.

Is CJ Frost the #potential team of Korea now? I'd rather see him replace the one weak link on my favorite team, which btw actually achieved something this season, too bad it was against these samsung shitters and not some good team like T1K or Frost.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 22:11:34
September 25 2014 22:03 GMT
#4227
On September 26 2014 02:03 AlterKot wrote:
I don't think it's so obvious. It's widely agreed that SHRC play a very messy game, it's just that they have some of the most talented players. Additionally, I think they have someone on the coaching staff who speaks Korean, also Zero and Insec were already teammates so they can just talk to each other. Meanwhile Crs is a very methodical team, who might not be the best at reactive shotcalling, but generally rely heavily on prepared strategies which put them ahead early and/or mid game. I'm just not sure if that would be a good environment for Piglet to perform and whether lack of communication would really not hurt them.

Besides, I sometimes half-jokingly say that Xpecial makes every ADC he plays with look better than he really is. And while it may be simple coincidences: Wildturtle looked like a beast in S3, remove Xpecial and suddenly he only performs on Tristana. Doublelift had his best performance in S3 at All-stars. Cop had his probably best performance in his life in final week and playoff games. Not to mention S2 MVP Chaox who can't find a team ever since. So well, maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's just what Xpecial does in game, but I wouldn't be suprised if it also had to do with him telling his lane partners what to do.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 02:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Like, seriously, Piglet/Madlife is a dream.
Why should we put him in worst OGN championship team in history.

Is CJ Frost the #potential team of Korea now? I'd rather see him replace the one weak link on my favorite team, which btw actually achieved something this season, too bad it was against these samsung shitters and not some good team like T1K or Frost.


What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

On September 26 2014 07:10 Fusilero wrote:

So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare


Still can't get over it, holy shit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#4228
https://twitter.com/domXtheXbomb/status/515247881906040832
So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare
Glorious SEA doto
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#4229
oGs Ensnare? loved his terran back in beta
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 26 2014 07:57 GMT
#4230
On September 26 2014 07:10 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/domXtheXbomb/status/515247881906040832
So LMQ's coach fly is actually the undying SC2 legend ensnare



@_@
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 08:00:30
September 26 2014 08:00 GMT
#4231
He was amazing in the beta. One more SC2 player to add to the list of making a succesful transition to coaching League, while the list of succesful player transitions remains BW-only.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 26 2014 08:16 GMT
#4232
Wasn't ensnare the player who remained in code S for an obscene amount of seasons during GomTvT?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 08:54:37
September 26 2014 08:46 GMT
#4233
http://www.esl.eu/eu/team/7626896/
Alex's squad is cabochard/imsofresh/alex/jebus/dioud. Not bad actually

Former WC3 player and prime coach sweet joins Jin Air. Congratulations to sweet on being the first prime LoL member to not end up on a world elite squad!
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 26 2014 09:10 GMT
#4234
Is Prime still involved with LoL or did they give up on it?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 26 2014 09:19 GMT
#4235

Ye, just changing loads of rosters
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 26 2014 09:24 GMT
#4236
On September 26 2014 18:10 UmberBane wrote:
Is Prime still involved with LoL or did they give up on it?

Well, on their website they still list a League division, but they don't actually list any players/staff like they do for their SC section. So it's either lazy site management or they've currently scrapped things yet not given up on it.

http://scprime.cafe24.com/lol
http://scprime.cafe24.com/sc2
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 26 2014 09:32 GMT
#4237
Ah I see. I think it's funny that WE stole Prime's players, because when I started following them they were Prime.WE
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 26 2014 10:27 GMT
#4238
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 26 2014 12:36 GMT
#4239
On September 26 2014 19:27 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.

Ignore him. He's a massive CLG/SKT fan, which means he has poor taste.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 26 2014 15:46 GMT
#4240
On September 26 2014 19:27 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
What a salt, lol.
KT got finals only because of immense bracket luck, calling this team as potential or something like that is just hilarious. Props though for forcing Blue to fight in KT swamp and props for not letting Marin to get finals.

If Frost didn't drop Swift and swapped Space with Piglet, they could easily be in finals, but right now i just hope that Swift and Piglet will end in same team and it's KT or IM prison.

There is one reason, why Piglet won't be able to achieve anything in Curse.
He won't be able to play 16 hours per day and when you're forced to completely change your lifestyle, it won't give results for a loooong time.

Hahaha ok. Kakao's KTA is the only team to win more than a single game against Blue since spring, and they are 1:1 in series against Shield. Meanwhile Frost had one good NLB run where they beat T1K and NJBS, and then lost to T1K next NLB, not to mention Samsung teams are untouchable for them. But I'm sure there's a lot of potential in Frost swapping Space for Piglet, it would clearly be a much better team than Arrows swapping Arrow for Piglet, lol. And I'm not sure what you mean with your Curse comment, what would prevent him from playing as much? Unless you mean that his coach would tell him "how about you only play 14 hours and get some sleep" and think that would substantially hurt his performance.


Practicing 16 hours in NA challenger every day.
Poor Piglet.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 328 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
GSL CK #5 - Day 1
CranKy Ducklings135
EnkiAlexander 75
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JimRising 724
PiGStarcraft489
ProTech133
RuFF_SC2 92
FoxeR 61
ROOTCatZ 8
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3965
Rain 3771
Artosis 608
Noble 78
Bale 56
NaDa 47
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm165
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
summit1g10787
taco 401
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox417
Other Games
Day[9].tv446
C9.Mang0403
Maynarde130
kaitlyn5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick34096
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 103
• davetesta15
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2348
League of Legends
• Scarra2346
• Lourlo939
Other Games
• Day9tv446
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
8h 19m
PiGosaur Cup
21h 19m
The PondCast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.