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Deezer's hacking past - A history lesson (Manubot)

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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
September 08 2011 17:35 GMT
#1
I posted this on Reddit, but since I know not everyone here visits reddit, I was hoping mods wouldn't mind me also posting here. If this is inappropriate for SC2 general, please feel free to move to blogs. My apologies if this isn't the correct place for this.

Hello everyone. As an administrator on WCReplays, which used to be "the big WC3 website" long ago, I have an interesting perspective and knowledge of Deezer, as he used to be a WC3 player.

Long before Deezer chose his new name, he went by "Manubot" on Warcraft 3. During his time playing Warcraft 3, he was well known as a map hacker who loved to mass games. But there was something that distinguished Deezer from other map hackers. Deezer had to make sure that as many people as possible knew of him. He even wanted people to watch his map hacking replays.

Deezer would essentially stop at nothing to make sure that he was able to upload as many hacking replays as possible. He didn't want to hide that he was hacking. All he needed was attention. As an administrator, I banned **A LOT** of Deezer's accounts. Since all the other administrators and I would always be banning his accounts, he'd continue making new ones. But he wouldn't just upload replays. He'd go so far as to make threads about himself as if the account wasn't actually his.

Manubot was one of those "lol fk u faggot nubshit" sorta speaking people, so he would change that up and try to act somewhat civilized under these fake accounts defending him. But any time I would see someone defending Manubot, I would run an IP check, see a match on one of Manubots other various accounts, and ban it. It was extremely consistent.

And though I realize Deezer has never been formally confirmed as cheating, due to the fact that you can't prove stream cheating, I want to make it abundantly clear that Manubot was **CONFIRMED* as a hacker by the entire community, including CrunCher, which you all know.

I don't claim to know Deezer personally, and I'm glad I don't, but it is really clear that he is someone with a lot of issues. Uploading replays of himself, then defending himself and giving himself overwhelming amounts of compliments on other accounts was downright *strange*. The amount of time that he put into what was essentially nothing more than saying "PLEASE LOOK AT ME" is really bizarre. So many accounts. So many replays. Lots of posts defending himself. As one of the few people who had an opportunity to see ALL of what he did, instead of just what moderators allowed others to see he did, I'm fairly certain the dude has a lot of emotional problems. He can't live without the attention. He'd get increasingly desperate and determined the more we deleted his stuff. Eventually he gave up once SC2 came out and he moved on to stream hacking.

Once stream hacking became such an easy thing to do, Deezer seems to have found an even better way at drawing attention to himself. He doesn't just stream hack anyone. He does it to people who are really popular and stream a lot. To him, its all about the exposure and getting as much attention as he possibly can. He uses streamers like Destiny and Incontrol and the likes to get his fix, just like he used WCReplays to spam his hacking replays.

Since its only fair that I provide proof of a lot of what I am saying:


http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115280&highlight=manubot CrunCher complaining about how moderators have slacked off with deleting all of the hacking replays Manubot uploads.

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136554&highlight=manubot This is a thread on WCReplays where everyone talks about how they know for sure that Manubot is Deezer, meaning that my accusations on Deezer are valid.

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116611&highlight=manubot A thread mentioning the banning of one of manubot's accounts

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116245&highlight=manubot Another casual mention of how Manubot hacks, showing its common knowledge. Manubot hacking was as common knowledge as the sky being blue.

I felt compelled to share all of this, since I know that some of you may not be 100% convinced that Deezer is a stream hacking. He's obsessed with attention.

Edit: For clarity: Manubot's accounts were confirmed as hacking by using WC3Chart to confirm he would click on units in the fog of war, meaning he had vision in the fog of war, meaning he was hacking.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:36:59
September 08 2011 17:36 GMT
#2
If all your saying is Deezer hacked in war3, we know that already. :|
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Unreg
Profile Joined August 2010
181 Posts
September 08 2011 17:39 GMT
#3
Well, after reading this we now know Deezer is still an ass, is he gonna grow into a mass murderer aswell?
less is more
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
September 08 2011 17:40 GMT
#4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666

He is under review at the moment and most people who have watched that replay suspect cheating

refer to signature for deezer info
hihihi
GTLAllDayEveryDay
Profile Joined September 2011
39 Posts
September 08 2011 17:40 GMT
#5
So did Haypro, TT1 and others... your point?
Strausticles
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
September 08 2011 17:42 GMT
#6
You need to have villains to have heroes. Are you EZ computer?
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 08 2011 17:43 GMT
#7
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:54:50
September 08 2011 17:43 GMT
#8
WOW ..... Deezer is Manubot?!?! This makes so much sense.....coming from the War3 community... especially WCR. I'm generally a forgiving guy and was indifferent about Deezer, but any shred of dignity he has left man. He's just been doing this stuff for 5 years and never changes, a bad example for any gamer.

Respect for Mohdoo for posting this with much detail. I agree we should just refrain from mentioning him, but everyone should know he is worse than just the name "Deezer."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
September 08 2011 17:44 GMT
#9
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


The attention will never end for as long as he is able to stream snipe destiny. My post helps to show everyone what a messed up guy he is and the history of why he does what he does.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 08 2011 17:44 GMT
#10
Who cares? none gives a shit about Deezer anyway.
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Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 08 2011 17:46 GMT
#11
how we know that youy arent the Deezer?
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 08 2011 17:46 GMT
#12
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.

¨

exactly what i was gonna write.

dont feed the trolls man..
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Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
September 08 2011 17:47 GMT
#13
I hate Deezer, he's one scrawny little fuck.
He deserves a massive beating, i'd be glad to carry it out, but, i cant.
So let's just forget about him.

User was temp banned for this post.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:50:12
September 08 2011 17:48 GMT
#14
Everyone already knows the scum trash hacks and is bm

EDIT :
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


This is absolutely true, as long as people make threads about him its just like publicity to him, he is probably grinning when he see's this -.-
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:50:01
September 08 2011 17:49 GMT
#15
EDIT : shouldnt of posted again, should of edited my top post sorry.
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BADSMCGEE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States94 Posts
September 08 2011 17:49 GMT
#16
some people are immature and have mental issues...welcome to planet earth...life is about compensating for these morons. i'm so glad that i can circumvent some of these people and be part of a community of awesome people like teamliquid.net. the TSL is the greatest tournament ever! nice job JF on winning the first one, and nice job tyler at winning number 2!
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:51:35
September 08 2011 17:49 GMT
#17
The guys does have serious emotional issues. It's really funny, in a sad way, to watch him try so hard to ride the coat tails of Destiny's popularity. Destiny is controversial for his language, but at least the guy is above board when it comes to playing the game. Deezer is just a special kind of loser.

That said, I think most of us knew this already, either from the War3 days, or from being Destiny fans.

And yes, sadly, these threads do give him the attention he so craves. Simply ignoring the guy would be far more hurtful to him than threads like this, which give him exactly what he wants.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
MrStorkie
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom697 Posts
September 08 2011 17:50 GMT
#18
what do you propose we do about it then? what do you aim to achieve by creating this post? I am in no way defending deezer, but if he is an attention seeker just like you describe him to be, don't you think that you're playing right into his favour by creating this thread?
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 08 2011 17:50 GMT
#19
On September 09 2011 02:40 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
So did Haypro, TT1 and others... your point?


Lol... This makes me think it's Deezer on a smurf...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 08 2011 17:51 GMT
#20
He has some serious mental issues.
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GTLAllDayEveryDay
Profile Joined September 2011
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:52:40
September 08 2011 17:51 GMT
#21
On September 09 2011 02:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


The attention will never end for as long as he is able to stream snipe destiny. My post helps to show everyone what a messed up guy he is and the history of why he does what he does.


Have you ever cheated on an exam? Have you ever lied to someone? Have you ever talked behind someones back? If so, does that make you a cheater, liar or backbiter for the rest of your life(not sure if this is the appropriate noun)? People grow up and change, let it go until he's caught hacking conclusively in SC2
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:55:24
September 08 2011 17:52 GMT
#22
Maybe if we stop talking about him he'l go away.
He is well known as a stream cheater, which as far as im concerned is the same as a maphack.

On September 09 2011 02:51 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


The attention will never end for as long as he is able to stream snipe destiny. My post helps to show everyone what a messed up guy he is and the history of why he does what he does.


Have you ever cheated on an exam? Have you ever lied to someone? Have you ever talked behind someones back? If so, does that make you a cheater, liar or backbiter for the rest of your life(not sure if this is the appropriate noun)? People grow up and change, let it go until he's caught hacking conclusively in SC2


Thats a terrible analogy. if someone was caught cheating over and over and over they would be expelled.
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Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
September 08 2011 17:53 GMT
#23
On September 09 2011 02:51 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


The attention will never end for as long as he is able to stream snipe destiny. My post helps to show everyone what a messed up guy he is and the history of why he does what he does.


Have you ever cheated on an exam? Have you ever lied to someone? Have you ever talked behind someones back? If so, does that make you a cheater, liar or backbiter(not sure if this is the appropriate noun)? People grow up and change, let it go until he's caught hacking conclusively in SC2


Deezer...? Is that you?

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about. Go watch Destiny's stream some time if you think this guy has grown up or changed.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
September 08 2011 17:53 GMT
#24
On September 09 2011 02:50 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:40 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
So did Haypro, TT1 and others... your point?


Lol... This makes me think it's Deezer on a smurf...


hes been a member since...today! i think you might be right lol
did you read the script?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 08 2011 17:53 GMT
#25
Wow. i did NOT know that deezer was manubot. My scorn for him just sploded.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
September 08 2011 17:54 GMT
#26
On September 09 2011 02:50 MrStorkie wrote:
what do you propose we do about it then? what do you aim to achieve by creating this post? I am in no way defending deezer, but if he is an attention seeker just like you describe him to be, don't you think that you're playing right into his favour by creating this thread?


My goal in this post is to give people a more accurate understanding of who Deezer is. The history I laid out shows how obsessed he is with trying to get attention as well as shows he has never had any moral objection to cheating as much as he possibly can.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
September 08 2011 17:54 GMT
#27
On September 09 2011 02:53 th3_great wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:50 GreEny K wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:40 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
So did Haypro, TT1 and others... your point?


Lol... This makes me think it's Deezer on a smurf...


hes been a member since...today! i think you might be right lol

Look at the post above yours. It's totally a Deezer parachute account.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
September 08 2011 17:54 GMT
#28
On September 09 2011 02:51 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:43 Bagi wrote:
You know what drives this kid? People like you giving him attention.

Just stop.


The attention will never end for as long as he is able to stream snipe destiny. My post helps to show everyone what a messed up guy he is and the history of why he does what he does.


Have you ever cheated on an exam? Have you ever lied to someone? Have you ever talked behind someones back? If so, does that make you a cheater, liar or backbiter for the rest of your life(not sure if this is the appropriate noun)? People grow up and change, let it go until he's caught hacking conclusively in SC2


I wonder how more obvious you could make it deezer.
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GTLAllDayEveryDay
Profile Joined September 2011
39 Posts
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#29
On September 09 2011 02:47 Facedriller wrote:
I hate Deezer, he's one scrawny little fuck.
He deserves a massive beating, i'd be glad to carry it out, but, i cant.
So let's just forget about him.


Very mature. SC2 BM doesn't warrant real bodily harm, glad the opinions of people such as yourself aren't taken seriously.
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#30
Are we suppose to know this guy? Sounds like another attention whore with no talent.
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#31
Sorry to burst our bubble, but this isn't anything new to the community. Deezer has ALWAYS been known to be BM and a confirmed stream cheater in the past.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#32
The excessive stream sniping kind of goes along with the attention whoring thing. He goes all out to make sure he snipes streamers that have a lot of views... jeez this guy needs help.
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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:56:13
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#33
th is sheds a bit of light on Deezer. not that much can be done. :-/

edit: FML, wasted my 2k post on Deezer.... jeez
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 08 2011 17:56 GMT
#34
I like how the OP explains that deezer would make smurf accounts defending himself, and then someone with 3 posts and an account made today is defending deezer.

..Coincidence?
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
September 08 2011 17:56 GMT
#35
On September 09 2011 02:55 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:47 Facedriller wrote:
I hate Deezer, he's one scrawny little fuck.
He deserves a massive beating, i'd be glad to carry it out, but, i cant.
So let's just forget about him.


Very mature. SC2 BM doesn't warrant real bodily harm, glad the opinions of people such as yourself aren't taken seriously.


Deezer, you know it's really weird, on a social level, to create parachute accounts to defend yourself. Seriously man, seek some help. Therapists can work wonders these days. You can learn to go outside and make real friends.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 08 2011 17:56 GMT
#36
Im going to class now, if i get back and find out that deezer posted in this thread im going to have a great laugh.
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bebe01
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)512 Posts
September 08 2011 17:57 GMT
#37
So what I concluded from this post is that deezer has a mental illness/disorder and we should accept him for who he is? ok.
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
September 08 2011 17:57 GMT
#38
i knew most of the top wc3 players and i never heard of Manubot...mustve been a 2nd rate player from azeroth...

never heard of his sc2 alias deezer either until last night where i saw him in a utube clip of him getting 6 pooled then in-based hatch pushed with spine crawlers LOL. this guy is a horrible player.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#39
I get the feeling that you guys aren't reading the entire OP carefully. The point is Deezer is a real attention whore to a different level.

I never really knew anything about Deezer's past but before then I just regarded him as another CombatEX of some sorts. But this is far worse when you go as far as to create another account to post about yourself. Very very bizarre guy, to the point of pity if I might add.
GTLAllDayEveryDay
Profile Joined September 2011
39 Posts
September 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#40
On September 09 2011 02:56 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:55 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
On September 09 2011 02:47 Facedriller wrote:
I hate Deezer, he's one scrawny little fuck.
He deserves a massive beating, i'd be glad to carry it out, but, i cant.
So let's just forget about him.


Very mature. SC2 BM doesn't warrant real bodily harm, glad the opinions of people such as yourself aren't taken seriously.


Deezer, you know it's really weird, on a social level, to create parachute accounts to defend yourself. Seriously man, seek some help. Therapists can work wonders these days. You can learn to go outside and make real friends.


I'm not Deezer. Deezer can't complete a sentence.
Setev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Malaysia390 Posts
September 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#41
On September 09 2011 02:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:50 MrStorkie wrote:
what do you propose we do about it then? what do you aim to achieve by creating this post? I am in no way defending deezer, but if he is an attention seeker just like you describe him to be, don't you think that you're playing right into his favour by creating this thread?


My goal in this post is to give people a more accurate understanding of who Deezer is. The history I laid out shows how obsessed he is with trying to get attention as well as shows he has never had any moral objection to cheating as much as he possibly can.


Hey, what about CombatEx? Is he Deezer/Manubot? I would like to know...
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
September 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#42
This doesn't deserve to be a topic. Any forms of hacking can be discussed in the SC2 hacking topic with submitted proof.
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