EPTdon´t get me wrong it might be by nature that he died,but the pictures really looking like steroid inhibited sickness.
Death of Aziz "zzyz" Sergeyevich - Page 3
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Riskr
Germany403 Posts
don´t get me wrong it might be by nature that he died,but the pictures really looking like steroid inhibited sickness. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:00 Gescom wrote: Is anyone naive enough to think that this was caused by a congenital heart defect? This thread is no different than the one after Ryan Dunn. Except in Ryan Dunn's case he clearly put others at risk, which added a great deal of negativity surrounding his death. The fact is that millions upon millions of people use anabolic substances and cocaine everyday, and someones decision to live a risky lifestyle ought not to make their death any less tragic. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On August 10 2011 02:59 SpaceJam wrote: This makes me hesitant to start this cycle of steroids next Friday.. Oh well. RIP Man don't do that please :/ | ||
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Alexstrasas
302 Posts
On August 10 2011 02:59 SpaceJam wrote: This makes me hesitant to start this cycle of steroids next Friday.. Oh well. RIP just dont do saunas, oh and keep yout PCT close | ||
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mustache
Switzerland309 Posts
On August 10 2011 02:55 EricCartman wrote: If you abuse drugs, especially the shit that fucks with your system you are asking for trouble. I highly double it was a pre-existing cardiac condition.. I would blame it on the extensive drug abuse. Let this be an example to others who wanna get jacked but dont wanna put in the hard effort. OP or mods can you add a post that anyone who doesnt know crap about steroids should just shut their mouth and either post condolences or post nothing at all? seriously this thread just proves how little the world actually knows about steroids. Kinda ironic seeing as many people shove aside professional gaming just because they don't know anything about it and it's associated with being an antisocial basement dweller. Same thing happening here. On August 10 2011 03:03 Riskr wrote: to look like zyzz and die at the age of 22... don´t get me wrong it might be by nature that he died,but the pictures really looking like steroid inhibited sickness. this kind of shit just makes me rage. wtf is steroid inhibited sickness? What the fuck? I can't stand ignorant people that feel the need to voice their opinions, especially when they're opinions that denounce others. I love when people say they can tell by the way the muscle looks that it's steroid built | ||
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
Still mirin. P.S. word has it, thailand has had some recent insecticide food poisoning problems causing heart swelling.. has happened to like 5+ tourists already. Would suck if that's why... although it was a couple of months ago. Official word is 'nope' of course. http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/05/08/tourist-death-in-thailand-linked-to-insecticide-poisoning | ||
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Yiska
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short
Sweden148 Posts
2. The self-righteousness displayed by some of the people in this thread is disgusting. | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On August 10 2011 01:52 CaptainCrush wrote: Sure it's sad, but roids will do that to a person.... and there is NO way to look that good without synthetic substances. Unfortunate - yes, Unexpected - no I don't really know the guy but if you're saying you can't look like the pic in the OP without taking steroids, you're absolutely wrong. I do not know this Aziz, dude - I've never heard of him prior to this thread. Perhaps he was using steroids and I don't know about it. I will say, though, for anyone reading this thinking they might want to try to get in shape - you absolutely can have what he has in the OP's pic without drugs. Hard work goes a long way. People forget that. | ||
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Coindrop
United States203 Posts
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Moldwood
United States280 Posts
After reading about this guy a little bit, i understand EVEN LESS why his life or death concerns the TL community at all whatsoever. And to all of you saying 'He was a huge inspiration' etc. this guy was obviously completely obsessed with his appearance beyond any fathomable level. He inspired you to hate the way you look and to 'Improve upon' yourself when, really, unless you are so overweight that you incur health risks, you dont need to fucking improve upon yourself in that way and no one has the right to tell you otherwise and / or pretend that your social status is entirely dependent on the way you look. As with any other death RIP, but this is not a tragedy. Sorry. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:21 Moldwood wrote: I mean... As much as i would like to say this is some sort of tragedy.... Who is this guy? And did i REALLY.... did i REALLY just read that his brother, named "Chest Brah.... Chest Brah...." I... ok i dont know where to begin on this one. I'm just going to leave it with: WTF Zyzzz Chestbrah?! How bout you begin by editing out your shitty post, and next time you should read what the admins place on the top of a thread. You contribute nothing to the thread, so don't post. | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
Also please cut the roid talk until his death is investigated fully. He was very knowledgable in that field, he'd know better than to randomly inject thai celltech. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:03 GreEny K wrote: Don't talk out of your ass. You have no idea what happened, so shut the fuck up. I can't even believe the crap that I've read in here. Someone dies and all you assholes have to say is, "he used roids he deserved it". Really? Show some fucking class, and either don't post of pay your respects. Sometimes I can't believe the people that are on TL. RIP Aziz, just learned about you recently. Ahem, ROID RAGE Note: small discussion coming and I dont intend to derail or take away from the fact that this death was tragic, nor do I wish to imply in any way that he deserved it. I only wish to convey how easily it could have been prevented. I see a couple people coming in here and saying stuff like steroids aren't dangerous.... if they were wonder drugs with no consequences then they would be leagal, period. I used to do lots of bodybuilding, and was pretty good at it. But you just cant stay that ripped AND retain that much muscle without extensive drug use. It doesnt always cause heart failure, it does however always cause liver damage and it thoroughly confuses your endocrine system. What you dont normally hear is that you have to take other drugs to help your body start its natural production of test after a cycle of steroids otherwise your estrogen skyrockets and you literally grow breast tissue and start depositing fat everywhere. The dedication that bodybuilders have is admirable, however, none of those drugs are natural and most of them are not good for you - period. I would venture a bet that he was taking several stimulants during a very intense training session and went into cardiac arrest. That combined with some intense doses of test, HGH, and god knows what else will do a person in very quickly. And for those of you who claim that there are tons of bodybuilders who do it with minimal health problems, look at any of them after they hit the age of 50. Arnold is one of the few who actually looks his age, the rest look like they are about 80 or 90. Also, just to show you how "healthy" this image is, here is 6 time Mr. O Ronnie Coleman literally unable to breath after flexing on stage. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.stumptuous.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ronnie-coleman-oxygen.png) I do feel sorry for the guy, I think extreme bodybuilding is somewhat of an eating/ personality disorder. Hopefully he can relax now and feel comfortable in his own skin. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:18 Mjolnir wrote: I don't really know the guy but if you're saying you can't look like the pic in the OP without taking steroids, you're absolutely wrong. I do not know this Aziz, dude - I've never heard of him prior to this thread. Perhaps he was using steroids and I don't know about it. I will say, though, for anyone reading this thinking they might want to try to get in shape - you absolutely can have what he has in the OP's pic without drugs. Hard work goes a long way. People forget that. You can look good, but not like that OP I used to be a competitive bodybuilder. I got pretty big, 200lbs at 5'8" and yes, it is impossible to keep that look naturally. His arms are huge and he has a ripped six-pack. He is using, otherwise you have to bulk and cut, bulk and cut. Natural lifters simply time their cycles in order to hit a ripped period for a show. I dont know this guy either, never heard of him until this thread but if he always looked like that big and that ripped, then you can rest assured he had some illegal substances in his closet. A natural person may look similar, but will not be as big and exhibit that "dry" look at the same time without drugs. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:03 GreEny K wrote: Don't talk out of your ass. You have no idea what happened, so shut the fuck up. I can't even believe the crap that I've read in here. Someone dies and all you assholes have to say is, "he used roids he deserved it". Really? Show some fucking class, and either don't post of pay your respects. Sometimes I can't believe the people that are on TL. RIP Aziz, just learned about you recently. There's nothing wrong with speculating about the cause of death of a 22yr old who is purportedly supposed to be in peak physical condition. And your profanity is way out of line. Especially in light of you talking about "fucking class." Also, I did not say he deserved to die. I said the cause of death was likely to be thermogenics, which have a long history of causing heart problems. Maybe learn some reading comp before spewing profanities and names. Sometimes, I am not surprised at all by the people on TL. | ||
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DavidMcF
United Kingdom189 Posts
So people posting bullshit about steroids just shush thanks. rip zyzz | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:28 CaptainCrush wrote: You can look good, but not like that OP I used to be a competitive bodybuilder. I got pretty big, 200lbs at 5'8" and yes, it is impossible to keep that look naturally. His arms are huge and he has a ripped six-pack. He is using, otherwise you have to bulk and cut, bulk and cut. Natural lifters simply time their cycles in order to hit a ripped period for a show. I dont know this guy either, never heard of him until this thread but if he always looked like that big and that ripped, then you can rest assured he had some illegal substances in his closet. A natural person may look similar, but will not be as big and exhibit that "dry" look at the same time without drugs. Just to be clear, it was well known that Aziz had done multiple cycles. His brother was recently busted by NSW police for dealing clenbuterol. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:24 CaptainCrush wrote: Ahem, ROID RAGE Note: small discussion coming and I dont intend to derail or take away from the fact that this death was tragic, nor do I wish to imply in any way that he deserved it. I only wish to convey how easily it could have been prevented. I see a couple people coming in here and saying stuff like steroids aren't dangerous.... if they were wonder drugs with no consequences then they would be leagal, period. I used to do lots of bodybuilding, and was pretty good at it. But you just cant stay that ripped AND retain that much muscle without extensive drug use. It doesnt always cause heart failure, it does however always cause liver damage and it thoroughly confuses your endocrine system. What you dont normally hear is that you have to take other drugs to help your body start its natural production of test after a cycle of steroids otherwise your estrogen skyrockets and you literally grow breast tissue and start depositing fat everywhere. The dedication that bodybuilders have is admirable, however, none of those drugs are natural and most of them are not good for you - period. I would venture a bet that he was taking several stimulants during a very intense training session and went into cardiac arrest. That combined with some intense doses of test, HGH, and god knows what else will do a person in very quickly. And for those of you who claim that there are tons of bodybuilders who do it with minimal health problems, look at any of them after they hit the age of 50. Arnold is one of the few who actually looks his age, the rest look like they are about 80 or 90. Also, just to show you how "healthy" this image is, here is 6 time Mr. O Ronnie Coleman literally unable to breath after flexing on stage. + Show Spoiler + I do feel sorry for the guy, I think extreme bodybuilding is somewhat of an eating/ personality disorder. Hopefully he can relax now and feel comfortable in his own skin. A picture of Ronnie Coleman is perhaps not the best way to illustrate the effects of anabolic use, considering that he is a total genetic freak in the first place. What's important to note here is that appropriating the death of Zyzz for the cause of villainizing anabolic steroids is totally and completely wrong. | ||
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