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Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 13:35:29
August 07 2011 13:35 GMT
#1
Hey all,
I just watched one of the "featured" streams where a top master league player just crapped around in team games. It wasnt even very funny. Nuke your allies, just make pylons the entire game and so on.

Ofc the other players got angry and no one laughed.

Hopefully someone used the in-game reporting function.

My question is: Why are such bad-mannered stupid pricks allowed to have a link to their stream on TL?



User was warned for this post
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
August 07 2011 13:36 GMT
#2
Just to annoy you.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
August 07 2011 13:37 GMT
#3
its a game you are suposed to have fun
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
xOtit
Profile Joined April 2011
United States253 Posts
August 07 2011 13:38 GMT
#4
team games actually mean something now? that's news to me.
"If I play zerg I'm like Nestea" - Deezer
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 07 2011 13:38 GMT
#5
I believe you can report this stuff to a TL mod then they might remove the stream from the featured section.
Don't quote me on this though.
o choro é livre
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 13:42:11
August 07 2011 13:39 GMT
#6
On August 07 2011 22:36 Vequeth wrote:
Just to annoy you.


And that makes it OK I guess?

On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


So one player having fun while 7 others have their games spolied is OK? Well, thanks, I think I will spend the next couple of days wrecking team games on B.net. cya. It will be fun. For me myself and I which is most important, right?
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
August 07 2011 13:41 GMT
#7
I'm pretty sure its reportable on battle.net and people have been banned for repeated abuse.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Jhax
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland201 Posts
August 07 2011 13:41 GMT
#8
I dunno sounds funny to me
Fast and Free
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
August 07 2011 13:42 GMT
#9
Who was this nuking their allies?
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
August 07 2011 13:42 GMT
#10
On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


So if i enjoy drop hacking 24/7 in GM that's ok, so long as im having fun?


Im guessing this was protech? trolling 4v4s (his words). Ive never seem him attacking/nuking his allys before. That's pretty BM.
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
August 07 2011 13:43 GMT
#11
On August 07 2011 22:42 TheFinalWord wrote:
Who was this nuking their allies?


I dont want to name or blame anyone. But OK, the ally nuke made me giggle.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 07 2011 13:44 GMT
#12
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
August 07 2011 13:45 GMT
#13
<@Megalisk> lokim tell this faggot that no one cares about team games

User was temp banned for this post.
You can't fight the feeling.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
August 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#14
On August 07 2011 22:42 noob styles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


So if i enjoy drop hacking 24/7 in GM that's ok, so long as im having fun?


Im guessing this was protech? trolling 4v4s (his words). Ive never seem him attacking/nuking his allys before. That's pretty BM.



? he is not doing anything illegal as drophacks so your argument is invalid
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dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#15
There's no obligation to follow when a stream is featured. It just means that for some reason or another, these streams deserve a special place of their own.
aztecx
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia130 Posts
August 07 2011 13:47 GMT
#16
it's protech.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 13:49:52
August 07 2011 13:49 GMT
#17
On August 07 2011 22:47 aztecx wrote:
it's protech.

LOL *rolls eyes* I am sure some ppl enjoyed it.
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moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
August 07 2011 13:50 GMT
#18
ProTech could probably win single-handedly in a team game. Let the guy have some fun.

If you haven't nuked your allies, try it. It's pretty fun. And he was probably doing it when they were far ahead and almost unloseable right?
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
August 07 2011 13:50 GMT
#19
On August 07 2011 22:44 deL wrote:
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.


If youre too dumb to see the difference between cheese and just wrecking the game for your team then maybe you should avoid posting in these forums.
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
August 07 2011 13:51 GMT
#20
On August 07 2011 22:50 moltenlead wrote:
ProTech could probably win single-handedly in a team game. Let the guy have some fun.

If you haven't nuked your allies, try it. It's pretty fun. And he was probably doing it when they were far ahead and almost unloseable right?


Nope, right at the beginning, sadly.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
August 07 2011 13:54 GMT
#21
On August 07 2011 22:43 Grubbegrabbn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:42 TheFinalWord wrote:
Who was this nuking their allies?


I dont want to name or blame anyone. But OK, the ally nuke made me giggle.

Nuking allies is just sad imo. You can build pylons all game if you want but killing allies is going too far.
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 13:57:35
August 07 2011 13:54 GMT
#22
I read your post once and was like "WTF, I screw around in team games all the time", by like playing solo monobattles with myself, (love going mass ghost or mass reaper in team games, it's actually really good and fun), but then I read it again, and understood better what you were saying. If people are ruining other peoples play time like that I think that is bullshit and not funny at all. Why ruin another persons time to try and be funny or whatever. I don't understand why the starcraft community is becoming so antagonistic. I don't think TL holds streams to any certain standards except in extreme circumstances (See: IdrA vs Chill), but I feel that at least featured streams should be held to at least some standard of quality. If you see this I think you should fix the OP (less negative and make a more clear point) because I do think there is a discussion to be had here.
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Bozotclown
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
August 07 2011 13:56 GMT
#23
If you can get banned for it then it shouldn't be on a featured stream.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 13:59:30
August 07 2011 13:57 GMT
#24
Yeah, in a just world he would get warned or something. I know team games aren't as serious, but if you've been griefed over and over you'll realize it shouldn't be a part of the game. That is why on FPS they kicked or lose points after so many teamkills, it ruins someones gaming experience and it sucks.

This should probably be put in website feedback though.
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NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
August 07 2011 13:57 GMT
#25
On August 07 2011 22:46 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:42 noob styles wrote:
On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


So if i enjoy drop hacking 24/7 in GM that's ok, so long as im having fun?


Im guessing this was protech? trolling 4v4s (his words). Ive never seem him attacking/nuking his allys before. That's pretty BM.



? he is not doing anything illegal as drophacks so your argument is invalid



He may not be doing anything to break the TOS. But both acts are ruining the game for others, for personal gain
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 07 2011 13:58 GMT
#26
WTF is this shit? No one cares. And if I could un-ally teammates like in BW I would do that too :p Do you really feel offended because one guy nukes his allies? How old are you? Are you a girl?
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
August 07 2011 13:58 GMT
#27
On August 07 2011 22:44 deL wrote:
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.


?? Cheesing and nuking your own allies in team game are on the same level now?
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
August 07 2011 13:59 GMT
#28
I'd rather lose a teamgame because someone nukes me then losing a standard game tbh. The stream shouldnt be featured because of something laughable like this? If you dont want to see it, turn the stream off.

Who actually cares about this except you Mr. Grubbe? I'm sometimes curious why people make a fuzz about EVERYTHING...

I mean...
I saw Incontrol trying to streamsnipe Deezer once.
I saw Deezer streamsniping everyone once.
I saw shittons of BM on IdrAs and many other streams.

Lets take all the quality streams (except Deezer xD) off TL.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:02:42
August 07 2011 14:00 GMT
#29
Wow I can't believe people are actually supporting this. The quality of the TL community really has gone down. I would report ASAP, why the hell would you support griefers? Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you can just be a dick. Unfortunately griefing happens in every team game but I cannot fathom why people would actually support it.

On August 07 2011 22:44 deL wrote:
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.


Umm are you are comparing griefing to cheese? Cheese is a legitimate strategy of the game. Griefing is purposely ruining the game for other players. With your logic why don't we all use hacks? Surely that must have a lot of entertainment value.


On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


At the expense of other players? that just makes you an asshole.


On August 07 2011 22:58 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
WTF is this shit? No one cares. And if I could un-ally teammates like in BW I would do that too :p Do you really feel offended because one guy nukes his allies? How old are you? Are you a girl?


Imagine if you were one of the other players on the griefer's team...
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NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
August 07 2011 14:00 GMT
#30
On August 07 2011 22:58 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
WTF is this shit? No one cares. And if I could un-ally teammates like in BW I would do that too :p Do you really feel offended because one guy nukes his allies? How old are you? Are you a girl?


you cant un-ally people in ladder games.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
August 07 2011 14:02 GMT
#31
He should probably be unfeatured already.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 07 2011 14:05 GMT
#32
On August 07 2011 22:44 deL wrote:
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.


Intentionally ruining the game for other people is not someone TL has ever endorsed. Just because individuals might not view team games as "serious business" there's still those that find it fun. Ruining the fun for them by nuking them etc. is pathetic.

Report the featured streamer to a TL mod. I'm sure they will sort it out
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#33
On August 07 2011 23:00 writer22816 wrote:
Wow I can't believe people are actually supporting this. The quality of the TL community really has gone down. I would report ASAP, why the hell would you support griefers? Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you can just be a dick. Unfortunately griefing happens in every team game but I cannot fathom why people would actually support it.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:44 deL wrote:
Next will you ask to have people who cheese removed from featured? It's part of the game people get something out of it in different ways, and streamers are not picked on skill only but viewer numbers and entertainment value/personality which really shines in more relaxed team games.


Umm are you are comparing griefing to cheese? Cheese is a legitimate strategy of the game. Griefing is purposely ruining the game for other players. With your logic why don't we all use hacks? Surely that must have a lot of entertainment value.


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:37 GizmoPT wrote:
its a game you are suposed to have fun


At the expense of other players? that just makes you an asshole.


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 22:58 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
WTF is this shit? No one cares. And if I could un-ally teammates like in BW I would do that too :p Do you really feel offended because one guy nukes his allies? How old are you? Are you a girl?


Imagine if you were one of the other players on the griefer's team...


If I was one of his allies, I'd leave. KK? On to the next game. Seriously, do you even like to play sc? I mean it must be hell getting offended all the time for the most trivial things.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 07 2011 14:14 GMT
#34
Well, since ProTech streams mostly 2v2's, I assume that's why he's featured. He's held then number 1 possition in the world since release pretty much constantly, and to make him unfeatured wouldn't make much sense.

Being bm isn't really enough of a reason to get unfeatured, IdrA's stream was still featured when he was banned, for example. Because TL knows that featuring one of the best players in the current game will yield positive results for both parties.

Of course 4v4 bronze-league troling is very BM, but that is hardly a majority of the games he streams.
Get crunk
Yeol
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)55 Posts
August 07 2011 14:16 GMT
#35
I only watched it once and no more since then. I play 2v2 with my friend and was wondering what strat is useful for certain combos.. Anyways after watching it for a while I was surprised that his stream get featured on TL.. Oh lord i just waste my time watching a featured stream?I mean, if you get featured then your stream must be educational to your viewers, right? Not to mention the bm...
stilez
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico130 Posts
August 07 2011 14:18 GMT
#36
Sounds pretty funny to me.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 07 2011 14:19 GMT
#37
On August 07 2011 23:16 Yeol wrote:
I only watched it once and no more since then. I play 2v2 with my friend and was wondering what strat is useful for certain combos.. Anyways after watching it for a while I was surprised that his stream get featured on TL.. Oh lord i just waste my time watching a featured stream?I mean, if you get featured then your stream must be educational to your viewers, right? Not to mention the bm...

I hardly think that you need to be "educational" to be featured, generally the featured-list contains popular players, rather than "educational" ones.
Get crunk
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 07 2011 14:19 GMT
#38
Well its just some funky team game, I wouldn't take it so seriously I mean its gonna happen but that doesn't mean TL is somehow in the wrong for having him featured because he acts like a moron in one game. Shit happens. :/
Kamma
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark111 Posts
August 07 2011 14:20 GMT
#39
If that sort of stuff makes you mad, don't watch the stream or just go whine to a mod or something, posting it here doesnt help, if you ask me
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:22:40
August 07 2011 14:20 GMT
#40
Yeah protech, i enjoy his 2v2s but all this shit he does in 4v4 is just disgusting and the sad thing is that some ppl seem to enjoy the crap he does. In 1 game it can be funny and for the lulz but he does it constantly in almost every 4v4 he does, this is the main reason i am no longer watching his stream because i dont want to support this kind of bullshit.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
August 07 2011 14:21 GMT
#41
On August 07 2011 23:16 Yeol wrote:
I only watched it once and no more since then. I play 2v2 with my friend and was wondering what strat is useful for certain combos.. Anyways after watching it for a while I was surprised that his stream get featured on TL.. Oh lord i just waste my time watching a featured stream?I mean, if you get featured then your stream must be educational to your viewers, right? Not to mention the bm...

Streams don't have to be educational to get featured. There are various non-educational featured streams.
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Ixirawr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States86 Posts
August 07 2011 14:21 GMT
#42
I agree: it is sad to see so many people defending a griefer.

I don't think it's a big deal. People fucking around is part of the game, and gaming/the internet in general. There is nothing that can be done about it.

But to support it. No. That reflects poorly on both yourself and TL as a website.

Seriously - if someone were to Google griefing in SC2 and found this thread, they would not join this community.
1800STFU
Profile Joined February 2011
158 Posts
August 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#43
It's a game. To have fun, and mess around.

I do the same thing sometimes. If you take everything so seriously like this your life will be miserable.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:24:24
August 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#44
On August 07 2011 23:09 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
If I was one of his allies, I'd leave. KK? On to the next game. Seriously, do you even like to play sc? I mean it must be hell getting offended all the time for the most trivial things.


"lol who cars" is not a proper response as obviously, the OP and other people here, including myself, do care. I enjoy playing 4v4 games as yes, its a less stressful form of the game. But I do not join a game to be griefed and lose from stupid shit like this.

Joining a game purely to cause frustration and grief to others. Do you know what that makes you? A jackass.

I feel ashamed to see such a state of the community devolve to the point of defending this.
starleague forever
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
August 07 2011 14:23 GMT
#45
People are assholes bro. Nuke him back :D
Wishing you well.
1800STFU
Profile Joined February 2011
158 Posts
August 07 2011 14:24 GMT
#46


Imagine if you were one of the other players on the griefer's team...



I wouldn't care. Because again, it's a game. We're not pros here making a living on if we win or lose.

Chill man.
Tyrgrim
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden83 Posts
August 07 2011 14:26 GMT
#47
What the fuck is wrong with you people? If someone purposefully ruins the game for others by griefing, then how can that be ok? Maybe it's not something to be really upset about, but still how is it in any form ok behaviour?
It's not ok to be an asshole towards other people just for your own amusement.

And like someone else said, if you're to dumb to see the difference between cheesing and griefing then maybe you shouldn't be posting in these forums.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
August 07 2011 14:27 GMT
#48
Good job trying to start drama instead of PMing a moderator.
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