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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:32 koreasilver wrote: I'm a huge Savior fan, and from how the CJ coach was confused about how Savior couldn't perform on stage even if his skills were good in practice, Savior probably actually was better than his last televised games would suggest. But banning Savior from professional games was the sensible decision, nor is their stance unjust. To say that Savior should be let in even after being one of the main players in the scandal is pretty ridiculous. I disagree. The guy didn't murder anyone or rape anyone. From what I understand he went to prison? He served his time, I think he should be given a second chance. MOst people deserve another shot in life, everybody messes up at some point. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:37 jj33 wrote: I disagree. The guy didn't murder anyone or rape anyone. From what I understand he went to prison? He served his time, I think he should be given a second chance. MOst people deserve another shot in life, everybody messes up at some point. He doesn't deserve to play professional brood war ever again but the disinformation spread is rather annoying. The closest thing to proof of Savior throwing games was Hwasin's testimony were apparently savior said something along the lines of "if I do it you should do it too" in a bnet message. | ||
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LuMiX
China5758 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
haha, good point wasn't there that game where he 9pooled vs a 14cc and then the camera cut to his face and he was all "shit shit, that wasn't supposed to happen". against upmagic iirc? maybe i am not getting it right regardless, i don't have much sympathy for him | ||
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koreasilver
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But in the same way, you can talk about Savior the match fixer without talking about Savior the Zerg maestro, and such a person shouldn't be let into professional games anymore. He was a part of the problem that let to the complete crumbling of an entire team. That is some serious shit, and Savior shouldn't be given any leniency for what he did just because he was one of the most important players in the history of the game. He shouldn't be let into professional BW again. | ||
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DirtYLOu
575 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:52 koreasilver wrote: Savior did not go to prison. I really disagree with how Kespa, OGN, and MBC all tried to erase Savior's legacy like some kind of attempted Stalinist collective amnesia, and also with how a lot of posters on TL think Savior doesn't even deserve to be mentioned again when it's basically impossible to speak about modern BW without mentioning Savior in one way or another. You can speak of Savior the Zerg player without having to speak of Savior the match fixer. But in the same way, you can talk about Savior the match fixer without talking about Savior the Zerg maestro, and such a person shouldn't be let into professional games anymore. He was a part of the problem that let to the complete crumbling of an entire team. That is some serious shit, and Savior shouldn't be given any leniency for what he did just because he was one of the most important players in the history of the game. He shouldn't be let into professional BW again. He got sentenced to prison. Although I would love to see my bonjwa again ;( | ||
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koreasilver
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Furaha
Germany271 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:55 DirtYLOu wrote: He got sentenced to prison. Although I would love to see my bonjwa again ;( His sentence was reduced, I believe, and he never had to go. Something like community service and I fine, I presume. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Ermac
336 Posts
On June 15 2011 05:06 Megaliskuu wrote: Wasn't it a suspended sentence? Kinda like probation? Yup. He never actually went to prison. | ||
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xarthaz
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koreasilver
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 15 2011 05:19 xarthaz wrote: Yup, and imo this is example of stubborn asian honor/tradition based system being bad for e-sports. in the western sphere savior would be such a celebrity, a bad boy that women would drool over, commentators would have so much to talk about him as well as the yellow magazines. and he would be still be allowed to take part in games In the western sphere he'd be nothing but a geek playing video games. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 15 2011 05:19 xarthaz wrote: Yup, and imo this is example of stubborn asian honor/tradition based system being bad for e-sports. in the western sphere savior would be such a celebrity, a bad boy that women would drool over, commentators would have so much to talk about him as well as the yellow magazines. and he would be still be allowed to take part in games Completely disagree, I think he'd be banned if such was the case. In the U.S., we had a World Series that was fixed, and everyone that even knew about the fix was banned, even if they didn't participate themselves. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On June 15 2011 05:19 xarthaz wrote: Yup, and imo this is example of stubborn asian honor/tradition based system being bad for e-sports. in the western sphere savior would be such a celebrity, a bad boy that women would drool over, commentators would have so much to talk about him as well as the yellow magazines. and he would be still be allowed to take part in games I disagree. Scandal is one thing, but regardless of the culture, gambling on a sporting event you're involved in is the worst of sins. Remember the Black Sox ordeal? Some of the most talented players in the game, barred for life because of a gambling scandal. Michael Vick is still playing, but Pete Rose will never be in the hall of fame because of gambling. NBA players get accused of sexual misconduct all the time, but when referees' integrity is called into question with fixing games, they're never seen again. It's just a different level. Savior was a god of a BW player, but I don't think he should ever come back. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
i think that 2-3 years ban from e-sports, lifetimeban from BW and returning the money would be enough.. if he repeat it -> prison | ||
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Hirmu
Finland850 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
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