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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:09:26
January 29 2011 19:49 GMT
#1
So, in a few days I'll switch to NA and, with the clear score, I'll be able to be placed in whichever league that I like - which means I'll be able to portrait hunt.

I know that this isnt really the coolest thing to date, but I just realized that it is so much funnier to just cheese every game instead of playing all the macro and thinking and finding weaknesses and reading oponents and stuff like that.

What I'm going to do is stream it. But before I'll need some opinions:
- Which stream site would be the best? I have zero knowledge about that. I personally dislike ustream.
- Which cheeses you think that would be the best? Obviously worker rush would be the most efficient one, but I also want some variety. I'll be obviously playing random, so I need cheeses from all three races.

Just fyi, in case I ever want an even game, I'll just ask in the public channels. would be so much funnier anyways.
<EDIT>
I don't mean ONLY the common 6pool/7rr/proxies/etc. I want lots of stupid stuff to do there, I don't know what, just give me ideas guys


Also, I need some help for team portrait hunting. I'd like to know which would be the best way, I know I can vary between team types(x2,x3,x4), but still.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
January 29 2011 19:50 GMT
#2
You know what's funnier than cheesing every game? Watching stand-up comedy. Doesn't sound like sc2's the game for you =D!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 19:51:59
January 29 2011 19:51 GMT
#3
First off, if you're going to abuse the system for your own personal goals, try not to introduce your topic with it.

Secondly, this has been asked a million times. Have you searched? Everyone is going to tell you their's is the best because they personally like it. Point being, it's based on personal taste and it really just comes down to your internet connection and processor.

Thirdly, all cheeses are equivalent in terms of gameplay value and interest. Not sure who would want to watch you cheese every game, but "best" is a bit difficult to distinguish with cheese-like gameplay.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
January 29 2011 19:51 GMT
#4
I don't understand the point of this. You're saying, "Hey, I'm going to do something that is really looked down upon and is just abusing the system. Any tips on how to best do this?" Is this just a troll post?
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arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
January 29 2011 19:53 GMT
#5
I support you 100%. Godspeed.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 29 2011 19:53 GMT
#6
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 29 2011 19:55 GMT
#7
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
January 29 2011 19:55 GMT
#8
I get your point, and i can see that it would be an entertaining stream to watch.

Just for for 2 rax / proxy gate / 7RR or 7 pool every game. proxy fact thor is also pretty fun.

There are so many cheeses though, and easy to learn them all, just pick a few
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 29 2011 19:57 GMT
#9
What are you guys talking about ? How is he in any way "abusing the system" ? o.o
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 19:59:46
January 29 2011 19:58 GMT
#10
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?



Ever seen that TL attack or whatever it's called? It's really fun to watch diamond+ people just double PF rush a bronze player, or atleast it can be.

It obviously depends how it's done, and if he cheeses correctly, he'll be in atleast plat pretty soon, then it wont just be bronzies.

Also, although i have 0 experience streaming (but lots watching), the 2 best seem like Ustream and Owned. Justin can also be good, but it lags alot, atleast for me.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 29 2011 19:59 GMT
#11
On January 30 2011 04:57 Wolf wrote:
What are you guys talking about ? How is he in any way "abusing the system" ? o.o


Only I claimed that he'd be taking advantage of the system by intentionally dropping his MMR in order to be placed in a league that isn't suitable for his level of strategy and game. He's essentially falsifying records to ensure portraits he'd normally wouldn't earn or earn as fast while also ruining the experience for many lower players who just want to improve or understand the game.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 29 2011 20:00 GMT
#12
On January 30 2011 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?



Ever seen that TL attack or whatever it's called? It's really fun to watch diamond+ people just double PF rush a bronze player, or atleast it can be.


Comparing this to TL Attack is blasphemy
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
January 29 2011 20:01 GMT
#13
On January 30 2011 05:00 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?



Ever seen that TL attack or whatever it's called? It's really fun to watch diamond+ people just double PF rush a bronze player, or atleast it can be.


Comparing this to TL Attack is blasphemy


I didnt. the question was "who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?", i just said TL attack was fun, so it isnt a new concept.

Obviously this wont be like that, i'm just giving an example of how it can be fun to watch such a thing.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 29 2011 20:03 GMT
#14
On January 30 2011 04:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:57 Wolf wrote:
What are you guys talking about ? How is he in any way "abusing the system" ? o.o


Only I claimed that he'd be taking advantage of the system by intentionally dropping his MMR in order to be placed in a league that isn't suitable for his level of strategy and game. He's essentially falsifying records to ensure portraits he'd normally wouldn't earn or earn as fast while also ruining the experience for many lower players who just want to improve or understand the game.


He said that he can be placed in whatever league he likes, not that he's going to drop his MMR intentionally. You can assume that, but either way, MMR is really flexible from the start, so unless he purposely loses 250+ games, by the time he's getting 250 wins for those portraits, he'll be getting back close to even.
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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 29 2011 20:04 GMT
#15
On January 30 2011 05:01 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 05:00 Leviance wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?



Ever seen that TL attack or whatever it's called? It's really fun to watch diamond+ people just double PF rush a bronze player, or atleast it can be.


Comparing this to TL Attack is blasphemy


I didnt. the question was "who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?", i just said TL attack was fun, so it isnt a new concept.

Obviously this wont be like that, i'm just giving an example of how it can be fun to watch such a thing.



No no no. The concept of TL Attack is NOT such a thing. In TL Attack a pro does not go proxy gates/6pool/2rax vs noobs. He has handicaps and must do funny stuff like build every building twice in order to use it - It is not comparable at all.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 20:07 GMT
#16
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?


People watch a guy play StarJeweled. I don't think this would be that much worser.

People stream various stuff all the time, besides normal games, so I don't see a problem.

On January 30 2011 04:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:57 Wolf wrote:
What are you guys talking about ? How is he in any way "abusing the system" ? o.o


Only I claimed that he'd be taking advantage of the system by intentionally dropping his MMR in order to be placed in a league that isn't suitable for his level of strategy and game. He's essentially falsifying records to ensure portraits he'd normally wouldn't earn or earn as fast while also ruining the experience for many lower players who just want to improve or understand the game.


I actually won't drop my MMR. I will start with a bad MMR, because I will have a zero score.
And "ruining the experience" is the way you see it. I see it as "they get experience and learn to play against it".


Also, I don't intend to do JUST the common cheeses. The reason I asked here, is that I want new stuff to do. Like someone talked about TL Attack, it is just what I want to do. Play with constraints. Should rephrase OP.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
January 29 2011 20:12 GMT
#17
"Play with constraints" really puts it in a new light, almost like turning it into a funday monday accout or something. I think this would be kinda cool to see, if I think of any interesting constraints I'll drop back in.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 20:13 GMT
#18
On January 30 2011 05:12 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
"Play with constraints" really puts it in a new light, almost like turning it into a funday monday accout or something. I think this would be kinda cool to see, if I think of any interesting constraints I'll drop back in.


EXACTLY! thats the whole point.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 29 2011 20:13 GMT
#19
On January 30 2011 05:07 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:55 Black Gun wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:53 Leviance wrote:
Why would someone wanna watch your stream!? You will be portrait hunting by losing your placements on purpose and cheese. wtf who would wanna watch this?



this. who the **** wants to watch a guy cheesing bronze noobs game after game?


People watch a guy play StarJeweled. I don't think this would be that much worser.

People stream various stuff all the time, besides normal games, so I don't see a problem.

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 04:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
On January 30 2011 04:57 Wolf wrote:
What are you guys talking about ? How is he in any way "abusing the system" ? o.o


Only I claimed that he'd be taking advantage of the system by intentionally dropping his MMR in order to be placed in a league that isn't suitable for his level of strategy and game. He's essentially falsifying records to ensure portraits he'd normally wouldn't earn or earn as fast while also ruining the experience for many lower players who just want to improve or understand the game.


I actually won't drop my MMR. I will start with a bad MMR, because I will have a zero score.
And "ruining the experience" is the way you see it. I see it as "they get experience and learn to play against it".


Also, I don't intend to do JUST the common cheeses. The reason I asked here, is that I want new stuff to do. Like someone talked about TL Attack, it is just what I want to do. Play with constraints. Should rephrase OP.


Good idea.

You'll need to keep your MMR low by losing every other game if you want to get your portraits.
That's dropping.

Whatever floats your boat or justifies your actions, it's nothing bannable, it's just frowned upon as you know. How you rationalize it doesn't really change the bottom-line.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 20:15 GMT
#20
Well, if I play with fun stuff like that, odds are that every other game I will lose. It's not like I'll force myself to stay on bronze, I'll just play and win what I win, and lose what I lose.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 29 2011 20:15 GMT
#21
On January 30 2011 05:07 Zephirdd wrote:


I actually won't drop my MMR. I will start with a bad MMR, because I will have a zero score.



-.-

On January 30 2011 05:07 Zephirdd wrote:
And "ruining the experience" is the way you see it. I see it as "they get experience and learn to play against it".



Wow so you are a real hero, selfless to the max, I'm sure they learn to play against it when you do it to them
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 20:18 GMT
#22
Wow so you are a real hero, selfless to the max, I'm sure they learn to play against it when you do it to them

I lost to seven cheeses in a row once, because I played so long against usual players that I had no idea about how to deal with them properly. So yeah, I am helping them to learn.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
January 29 2011 20:23 GMT
#23
Meh, this topic seriously looks like a vast troll. But if it makes you a happy man, go on.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 29 2011 20:23 GMT
#24
You know of course you can do whatever you want and I will not bother you anymore by posting in this BUT it is pretty clear with the original unedited OP that you hadn't planned to make it like "playing with constraints", "that's the whole point" later you post, but lol if that was the whole point it would have been in the OP with some mention right?
Just disliking the way you back off of your original plan and pretend you wanted to do the TL Attack like stuff from the beginning.
Anyway, hf
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46041 Posts
January 29 2011 20:26 GMT
#25
Worker rushes.

Kill off a few of your starting probes.

Fly to weird bases or just build one type of attacking unit all game long.

Have fun with it
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 29 2011 20:29 GMT
#26
Blog it =)!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 29 2011 20:59 GMT
#27
blog it
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 29 2011 20:59 GMT
#28
oh hi jinro
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