• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:30
CEST 12:30
KST 19:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 234ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft? Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8763 users

Poll: Was Kespa right to kill GOMtv tourny?

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Zuchinni_one
Profile Joined April 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 07:44:19
April 25 2010 06:55 GMT
#1
I have a question for the Team Liquid community regarding the Kespa / Blizzard debacle

My understanding is that Kespa blocked all its players from continuing to compete in the GOMtv tournaments that were sponsored by Blizzard.

I got that from several posts including the following from 'Go0g3n' which seems to be one of the clearest. Here's the original thread.
+ Show Spoiler +
KeSPA is a ruling agency (body) it doesn't pay anything to anybody. It's run by representative of Pro Teams and one each from OGN and MBC channels. They are the ones who will have to pay royalties for every single commercial broadcast involving StarCraft II, let alone all the sub-media that goes with it.

In US Blizzard would be entitled to a huge amount of royalties payments, in Korea it's enough to own a legal copy of the game to broadcast. Blizzard already tried to deal with relevant Korean authorities, but they were sent to "deal with KeSPA". They also tried to deal with MBC/OGN separately, failed there as well. But, and it's a big but, they can't broadcast games played over the web, i.e. on Battle.net, as it requires a completely different international license, which they won't get. Since there's no Lan - no broadcasts for now.

KeSPA answered by killing GOM. Blizzard was heavily sponsoring it, as it was getting more and more popular, probably aiming to build a platform for future SC2 broadcasts, leagues etc, they were shut down by decision of the majority KeSPA teams to not participate in GOM.

As said by artosis in a recent interview - it's a dead end with a lot of money at stake.

I covered all this in three KeSPA/Blizzard articles on GG.net

Another thing that's important is that Blizzard did absolutely nothing for StarCraft in terms of it's promotion and huge Korean and e-Sports success. They've even stopped supporting it after WC3 came out. It was KeSPA (at the time KPGA) who built the billion dollar industry of Korean StarCraft gaming and broadcasting.

On the other hand you have to realize that StarCraft broadcast is immensely profitable in Korea, be it on OGN, MBC, GOM, whatever. It costs next to nothing to create a 2+ hour broadcast that beats everything in 18-34 ratings - the most valued by advertisers. The costs are so low they can be only compared with a cheap-ass 30min/week game show, rather than 15hr/week of StarCraft broadcasts.

Also:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 22 2010 03:44 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 02:54 Kennigit wrote:
On February 22 2010 02:49 Qikz wrote:
Why doesn't Blizzard hire another broadcasting company in Korea and allow them to broadcast the games for a nominal fee which is only fair.
.

This is what GOM tried to do.

speaking of GOM why did it stop? i loved watching that and progamers played it and it was great quality and website
why cant u do like this?


KESPA killed it because it was being sponsored by Blizzard. They banned all the teams from participating in it. It was very sad because it did so much for e-sports. This was one of the battles in this ongoing war.
If Kespa is supposed to be all about Korean e-sports don't you think they should SUPPORT more e-sports and more tournaments?

Poll Question:

Do you agree with Kespa's decision to kill the GOMtv tournament sponsored by Blizzard by preventing Koreans progamers from participating in non Kespa events?
Poll: See above

No - Progamers should be allowed to play in any tournament they wish (134)
 
88%

Yes - Kespa should be allowed to block progamers from Blizzard tournys (18)
 
12%

152 total votes

Your vote: See above

(Vote): Yes - Kespa should be allowed to block progamers from Blizzard tournys
(Vote): No - Progamers should be allowed to play in any tournament they wish





Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 07:11:17
April 25 2010 07:06 GMT
#2
Depends on the standpoint.

If you look at it in a sheer business stand point, KeSPA had all the rights in the world to restrict people. In fact, the US has a ton of those too -- it's called work contracts. Get any high paying job and see how much your boss at Goldman will like you if you start hanging around in JP Morgan's offices offering them your services. It is a work contract, KeSPA can do whatever the hell they want.

KeSPA didn't "kill" GomTV, GomTV just could not offer what KeSPA had to offer. It's not as if GomTV and Blizzard could have done nothing to stop KeSPA -- Blizzard could have stepped in and offered much more lucrative contracts to progamers, ones that could just in pay alone outdo KeSPA.

It's competition that gives freedom -- Blizzard made it clear that they had no desire to make progaming better by entering the competition. Blizzard had their chance of competing with KeSPA and having some market share, but it obviously was not priority for them. So, Blizzard backs off. They don't want to compete -- so why give them the benefits? KeSPA was just practicing standard business practices through using contracts.

If Kespa is supposed to be all about Korean e-sports don't you think they should SUPPORT more e-sports and more tournaments?


KeSPA was supporting esports by knocking Blizzard out of picture. Should they have supported more major tournaments? Well, is it efficient? Having more tournaments doesn't mean it's more competitive -- note that players spend ridiculous amount of time preparing for OSL MSL and individual leagues -- what makes you think that having more tournaments will boost competition, when it means less preparation time? Sure, it may "boost" competition, but it doesnt mean we'll have a better outcome in terms of gameplay.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
April 25 2010 07:17 GMT
#3
they don't want the competition
if you were selling soda for $1 a can and then someone comes along and starts selling it at 95 cents per can
how would you feel
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 25 2010 07:18 GMT
#4
blizzard will win in the long run don't worry lol
why so 진지해?
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
April 25 2010 07:20 GMT
#5
were they right to kill the tag team of sdm and tasteless? hell no
Jaedong <3
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
April 25 2010 07:23 GMT
#6
Blizzard/Gom should have cooperated with Kespa. Even if players played without practice, etc, the games were fun, and it was great to have the eng commentary, it was picked up by the internet, the threads were here and there on non-gaming websites all over the web.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 25 2010 07:26 GMT
#7
KeSPA didn't block players from GOMtv. Teams just chose not to participate because it wasn't in their interests to do so.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 25 2010 07:27 GMT
#8
kespa won in the short term
and killed its own future.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 25 2010 07:32 GMT
#9
On April 25 2010 16:18 Rekrul wrote:
blizzard will win in the long run don't worry lol


Yes, Indeed.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 25 2010 07:43 GMT
#10
My understand of the situation was that KeSPA didn't forbade anyone from participating in GOM rather they didn't sanction it, meaning players would not improve in the KeSPA ratings because of it. The reason the GOM tournament died was because MBC/OGN/eSTRO/SKT all didn't participate and with such little incentive to participate, the league was pulled. Now those teams didn't participate because they all had vested interest in GOM not succeeding - MBC/OGN because it would be another rival corporation in the market, eSTRO since IEG owns the rights to Proleague, and SKT because at the time the head coach of SKT was also the chair of KeSPA - hence didn't want to see the league succeed.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 25 2010 07:45 GMT
#11
A poll with such pointed wording, such as "kill", when it wasn't even the case.

Anyways, you surely didn't expect teams to support the competitors of their sponsors, as Plexa has noted, do you?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
April 25 2010 07:47 GMT
#12
I think I should clear the misconception that the head coach of SKT is chair of KeSPA. I believe this is simply a mistranslation, as if I recall correctly it's the chairman/some head guy of SK Telecom.
Commentator
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 07:52:14
April 25 2010 07:50 GMT
#13
i dont think any of us know anywhere near enough to comment on this situation. the dealings of korean gaming administrative juntas with multinational gaming conglomerates is far more complex than a TL.net poll.

kespa has the marketing and infrastructure but blizzard owns the intellectual property (whatever that means).

also this is correct
On April 25 2010 16:47 GTR wrote:
I think I should clear the misconception that the head coach of SKT is chair of KeSPA. I believe this is simply a mistranslation, as if I recall correctly it's the chairman/some head guy of SK Telecom.

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
April 25 2010 07:56 GMT
#14
okay i just did some researching and the current head of kespa is 조기행 (jo kihaeng), who is the president of SK Telecom's GMS division.
Commentator
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 07:58:14
April 25 2010 07:57 GMT
#15
regardless of who is right and who is wrong,

I'm just worried this will hurt the SC community as a whole. Its a shame someone has to "win" and someone has to "lose", I'm betting Blizzard will win (it's their game), but I'm sad they officially cut communications now with Kespa, someone's going to take a huge hit.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 25 2010 08:25 GMT
#16
While KeSPA might be fully in control of SC markets now, I just don't see how they're going to continue to have leverage over a company like blizzard who obviously has rights to their intellectual property.

KeSPA's only point of contention is that because they developed a market for eSports then it should be only fair that it be allowed to regulate it in Korea. But KeSPA cannot continue to keep that mindset when it has to play nice with governing bodies from other nations who abide by blizzard's rules and regulations.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 25 2010 15:54 GMT
#17
On April 25 2010 16:50 omninmo wrote:
i dont think any of us know anywhere near enough to comment on this situation. the dealings of korean gaming administrative juntas with multinational gaming conglomerates is far more complex than a TL.net poll.

kespa has the marketing and infrastructure but blizzard owns the intellectual property (whatever that means).

Smartest post ive seen on the issue.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 25 2010 16:11 GMT
#18
This is a silly question. The results of your poll should show you how skewed of a question it is. Its like "Do you think rape is acceptable?" You don't need a poll for that because 90% of people will say no. It's business, there isn't a good guy or bad guy - it's just business.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
10:00
HSC 29: Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings46
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 118
Livibee 45
Lowko0
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 547
Jaedong 438
Hyuk 424
Horang2 387
Shuttle 369
actioN 272
Zeus 232
Mini 229
Soulkey 185
Larva 176
[ Show more ]
Soma 158
Light 108
EffOrt 107
Dewaltoss 107
Mong 79
ZerO 73
Snow 73
Mind 65
ggaemo 65
Rush 61
Hm[arnc] 39
Movie 34
sSak 31
Sharp 31
soO 28
hero 27
scan(afreeca) 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
JYJ 18
HiyA 18
ToSsGirL 17
Sacsri 17
zelot 17
Bale 16
Noble 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
Sexy 9
[sc1f]eonzerg 6
sorry 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4016
XaKoH 150
League of Legends
Doublelift2863
JimRising 527
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1133
Sick171
markeloff61
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King78
Other Games
FrodaN502
Hui .153
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick13098
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 35
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP97
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco2384
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3740
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
31m
OSC
2h 31m
Big Brain Bouts
5h 31m
Replay Cast
13h 31m
RSL Revival
22h 31m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
23h 31m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 31m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
IPSL
1d 5h
Dragon vs Ret
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Heroes Pulsing #3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.