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I hope I'm not too late on this, but I want to declare a $100 offer to Orb in his matches against IdrA in the HDH Invitational tourney.
If, during any of his matches, Orb defeats IdrA through the use of Carriers, I will give him $100.
I am a spoiled rich kid, and therefore I want to stress my offer is completely serious. I will post whatever pictures or proof as necessary to prove my offer.
Details:
- I can send Orb $100 in any method he prefers; PayPal, money order, check in mail, etc.
- The victory must reasonably include the use of carriers. Simply building a carrier at the end after the match is already decided should not count.
- Bonus points if IdrA flips out after losing, or Orb wins and says anything involving, "useful talent toi have" subject to my whim.
I need help from the community judging a good rule for "reasonable use of carriers." I want to make my offer in good faith, but don't know exactly how this should be defined. Maybe the way is to have a trusted public TL member decide whether a victorious match reasonably used carriers or not.
I am open to suggestions! I will edit in the details into this post if we find a concrete way to judge what involves a carrier victory.
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This is rekrul in disguise lol
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Why don't you do something useful with your parents money?
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Orb won't win, he'll go on whining about how everything is overpowered and retarded.
Business as usual.
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I really don't think that Orb is going to take a map from Idra.
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I'm almost sick enough to want to see this.
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On April 23 2010 11:15 kOre wrote:
This is rekrul in disguise lol
No, it's Fayth in disguise.
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1) games were already played, im pretty sure.
2) orb is terrible, and will not win any games, carriers or no.
3) this is a bad, attention-whoring thread. If you had really cared, you would have just pmed orb.
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The carrier must get at least 1 kill.
Fair?
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lol. are you serious.
you cant be serious offering this kind of money just for that kind of entertainment lols
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[QUOTE]On April 23 2010 11:14 TheMaster42 wrote:
- Bonus points if IdrA flips out after losing, or Orb wins and says anything involving, "useful talent toi have" subject to my whim.[/QUOTE]
haha.
Pretty awesome idea man.
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wow, you are the men!!
i think that 6 or more carriers will be fine, or...
destroy a CC with carriers, BEFORE idra leave the game in a bm way =)
maybe both conditions would be fine.
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It won't happen. I don't want to be mean to Orb, but IdaA is really just better. I don't think many of the HDH games will stretch into tier 3, and certainly not such an unbalanced game like this one. I believe that you would pay if it did happen though. Even if your post count is at a solid sub 10 level. Chances are they already played the matches anyway, or maybe they are as we speak. Who knows?
But really when it comes down to it, you're still a bad person for making this thread.
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Maybe you can give the money to a third party ahead of time (like whoever was holding the $10k for the smuft/idra match)
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u think orb can win a game vs idra, let alone with carriers?
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L O L .. i wanna see this
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Lol you really believe orb could win?
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He might as well try, not like he's seeing any of that prize money.
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Don't give up on orb so easy, there is always a sliver of hope.
you know, how someone like tossgirl can take 1 game off of jaedong out of 100? what if this is the game?
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too bad orb won't win any of those matches...let alone use carriers....
EDIT:
I realize I essentially stole like 3 peoples' posts but my statement stands.
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well...now that idra knows orb will be using carriers...the match should be interesting
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Orb < Idra with 3 starting SCVs
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This is, to date, orb's biggest shot to prove that he is legit. We all know that most of the top players don't take him seriously in the slightest. If he beats idra, then he might get some respect. So I expect he will be taking the match quite seriously, even though the odds of him winning the whole thing are quite low.
So yeah, he isn't going to go Carriers on the off chance that some random new poster will actually give him $100 (even though it is most likely rekrul, obviously, he is crazy enough to do it)
but yeah, unless Idra forgot how to make corrupters I really doubt we see carriers.
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i must say im more interested in idra vs smuft, now that the latest patch is out..
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Why not do something more realistic? like offer idra to beat him with only corrupters and drones
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On April 23 2010 11:25 nitdkim wrote:
Orb < Idra with 3 starting SCVs
SCV's? You mean drones?
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You just made this match a must watch lol
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On April 23 2010 11:18 rally_point wrote:
Maybe you can give the money to a third party ahead of time (like whoever was holding the $10k for the smuft/idra match)
yea this seems reasonable
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On April 23 2010 11:27 rally_point wrote:SCV's? You mean drones?
I don't think that was a typo.
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imo this thread should just be deleted and the money used for a unpredictable fun match... maybe TLO v idra .. sounds awesome to me
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Orb is pretty much a macro player, but I think that him trying to macro vs. Idra will be a huge mistake. He should cheese Idra if he wants to win. 
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You may be a spoiled rich kid but orb is a professional poker player .... so like, I don't think your 100 dollars is very important to him. Save your money and ask a mod to remove this thread.
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Can you explain the "useless talent toi have" for those of us out of the loop? I don't think it's possible to get carriers in a serious match, it'd basically be like completely and utterly outplaying and getting them for the hell of it after you have a huge advantage. Unless he comes with some crazy strat that makes Idra not able to expo with a spire up so he can switch to corrupters easily .. anyway enough theorcraft, if this does happen I will be immensely amused.
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I can see TLO pulling that off Ranix
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I wonder which one will rage more?
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On April 23 2010 11:34 alexanderzero wrote:Orb is pretty much a macro player, but I think that him trying to macro vs. Idra will be a huge mistake. He should cheese Idra if he wants to win.
If he can cheese with carriers, surrrre.
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If you are a truly "spoiled rich kid" why not up the anti to $500+?
$100 isn't that much by anyone's means :s
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idra play zerg => carrier vs zerg is almost impossible -.-
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On April 23 2010 11:34 alexanderzero wrote:Orb is pretty much a macro player, but I think that him trying to macro vs. Idra will be a huge mistake. He should cheese Idra if he wants to win.
Wtf does this even mean? He's a macro player in sc2 beta? I think you are completely wrong and the point is foolish to begin with.
I'll give the OP 100 dollars to STFU and go away!
Come back when you have something worthwhile to propose.... or give me the 100 dollars... invent some excuse
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On April 23 2010 11:39 swat wrote:
If you are a truly "spoiled rich kid" why not up the anti to $500+?
$100 isn't that much by anyone's means :s
Why don't you, bro?
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On April 23 2010 11:41 See.Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 11:39 swat wrote:
If you are a truly "spoiled rich kid" why not up the anti to $500+?
$100 isn't that much by anyone's means :s Why don't you, bro?
Because I am not the one who is making the bet?
I did not say I was a "spoiled rich kid"?
I have no idea why you posted, think before you post.
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Dude orb is going to have to start with a carrier to make it close.
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void rays into carriers off 2 base gogo
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On April 23 2010 11:44 swat wrote:
Because I am not the one who is making the bet?
I did not say I was a "spoiled rich kid"?
I have no idea why you posted, think before you post.
It's not your money. So shhh. Thanks, bro!
OP should talk to Naz about holding the money. Put in 100 for each match preemptively, under the assumption that whatever isn't used for payout is returned after maybe? How do these things normally work?
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On April 23 2010 11:48 See.Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 11:44 swat wrote:
Because I am not the one who is making the bet?
I did not say I was a "spoiled rich kid"?
I have no idea why you posted, think before you post. It's not your money. So shhh. Thanks, bro! OP should talk to Naz about holding the money. Put in 100 for each match preemptively, under the assumption that whatever isn't used for payout is returned after maybe? How do these things normally work?
lol its not going to happen so no need to think about logistics
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On April 23 2010 11:39 swat wrote:
If you are a truly "spoiled rich kid" why not up the anti to $500+?
$100 isn't that much by anyone's means :s
I am an aristocrat from Victorian England; with the use of a time machine my father bought for me, I will add to this wager the measly sum of eleven-thousand duckets.
/yawn
Cheerio, good show chaps.
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Orb is certainly better than me. But also certainly not good enough to beat IdrA.
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On April 23 2010 11:48 See.Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 11:44 swat wrote:
Because I am not the one who is making the bet?
I did not say I was a "spoiled rich kid"?
I have no idea why you posted, think before you post. It's not your money. So shhh. Thanks, bro! OP should talk to Naz about holding the money. Put in 100 for each match preemptively, under the assumption that whatever isn't used for payout is returned after maybe? How do these things normally work?
lol?
So from your logic if you are not directly involved, you should not comment?
Then why are we commenting in this thread?
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings somehow??
I won't post again in this thread, sorry mate.
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Orbs gona get rolled ez... I duno why ppl are even making a big deal about this...
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so epic Too bad orb would be dominated
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On April 23 2010 11:15 kOre wrote:
This is rekrul in disguise lol
I don't actually know who that is. =/
On April 23 2010 11:18 No_eL wrote:
destroy a CC with carriers, BEFORE idra leave the game in a bm way =)
This is the closest I've seen to a reasonable rule that isn't easy to exploit. If Orb wins a decisive battle and then doesn't march on IdrA's hatchery, he might very well ragequit if he's doesn't have any chance of winning, and stay in if he does, at which point I'd be OK with carriers for the decisive blow.
Also if Orb won with a big battle with carriers but IdrA rage quit before a hatch went down, I'd give the prize anyway.
On April 23 2010 11:18 rally_point wrote:
Maybe you can give the money to a third party ahead of time (like whoever was holding the $10k for the smuft/idra match)
I would be happy to do this asap, although I'm pretty new to the SC community and don't know who the respectable, public names are other than day[9].
I am open to suggestions!
On April 23 2010 11:23 sur_reaL wrote:
well...now that idra knows orb will be using carriers...the match should be interesting
I liked the dynamic of this and it influenced my decision to make this wager public.
On April 23 2010 11:36 Newguy wrote:
You may be a spoiled rich kid but orb is a professional poker player .... so like, I don't think your 100 dollars is very important to him.
I've seen his tuxedo and mine is cleaner so I thought he wouldn't mind the money still.
On April 23 2010 11:39 swat wrote:
If you are a truly "spoiled rich kid"...
I may have been joking about that fact. You seem angry about it.
If Orb would rather I donate $100 to a charity of his choice, I'd be perfectly happy to do that as well.
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Fun idea man! And relatively risk free
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On April 23 2010 12:16 swat wrote:
I won't post again in this thread, sorry mate.
I find your terms acceptable. Cheers, mate.
On April 23 2010 12:20 TheComeback wrote:
Orbs gona get rolled ez... I duno why ppl are even making a big deal about this...
Haha I think it's just underdog support. I'd personally love to see some upsets, shake things up a bit. Either way, hell of a tournament, love to see how much the community is making even the beta great.
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imagine the humiliation for idra if he really lets orb pull this off after being informed about it beforehand by this thread...
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On April 23 2010 12:25 Black Gun wrote:
imagine the humiliation for idra if he really lets orb pull this off after being informed about it beforehand by this thread...
he'd probably just say something about how imba carriers are, that you'll lose even if you know they're coming.
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Honestly the possibility of this happening is basically zero. Even if orb wanted to do this, building carriers when they aren't otherwise part of his practiced strategy is just foolish. Doing so would likely cost him the game. It would be way too risky in an already difficult match.
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Yeah, with 5k on the line, throwing away games for 100 doesn't take much decision making, plus idra reads tl, so if this went through he would know what two starports in two base could mean...
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yea...orb is good, but for Idra, this game is his life. It's gonna be hard for orb to take a game off of Idra let alone using carries versus ZERG.
Carriers were never good v. zerg and they're even worse against Zerg now due to corrupters and hydras.
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On April 23 2010 11:44 swat wrote:
... Put in 100 for each match preemptively, ...
Errr, just saw this. It's $100 total, not for each match. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Though winning two rounds both times with Carriers would be truly amazing, and I'd be willing to put some extra in just on principle.
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orb will never win a game, let alone with carriers. Its a casual player vs one of the most serious foreigners.
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On April 23 2010 11:34 alexanderzero wrote:Orb is pretty much a macro player, but I think that him trying to macro vs. Idra will be a huge mistake. He should cheese Idra if he wants to win.
Orb a macro player? Everytime I see him play I see him do cheesey play (proxy tech, proxy gates, 1 base all in). The 2 times I played him he did both (I beat him both) but maybe he has changed his playstyle finally ^^.
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Sweet more money for community entertainment. :D
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Orb isn't that great. He'll get stomped by idra, nevermind using carriers.
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Never going to happen. If orb goes carriers he will be punished! Not that Idra is the most uber Zerg i have ever seen, he isn't even a mannered player. But hey! Who doesn't play this game to win over their opponents and bath in their tears of misery?! That is why I play! And obviously this is why Idra plays seeing his niveau of manners over several games. And orb is not even that good. Not that im seeing myself as a better player than him. I have seen them both play and eventhough Idra plays pretty onsided he will beat him hands down, not even any use playing the gam IMHO. I want to underline that im not one of Idra's groupies. I just think that he will win! And as for you who is betting 100$ dollars on this match WTF is that who cares about 100$? I would much rather have the HONOR and PRIDE of winnin a tourney match than have a lousy 100$ dollar that you probably will never even transfer to the winner. IMHO opinion this is just another thread that should be closed. This is just a kid, wanting to get in on the Idra action. I really want to emhasice that i dont like Idra as a person or am a follower of his fanclub.
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Sorry, but stirring the drama pot with your fourth post is not acceptable.
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EPT
