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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 15 2009 05:28 GMT
#281
Yes!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
August 15 2009 05:28 GMT
#282
Jangbi is out. You better not lose to Tempest, goddammit. Haha.
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
August 15 2009 05:29 GMT
#283
Tempest's play has been pretty ballsy. I hope he can get through Jangbi :D
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 15 2009 05:29 GMT
#284
JangBEIIIIIIIIIIIII
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#285
Gogogogogo Jangbi!

Not sure which team I'm rooting for here, but I know which players I'm rooting for
May the BeSt man win.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#286
that was a sloppy surround of tempest's push, lost lurkers continuously over it's entire duration.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
August 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#287
On August 15 2009 14:27 lazz wrote:
tempest is good wtf guys stop hating lol


Compared to Violet, Tempest sucks, no offense.

great is definitely the favorite nonetheless.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 15 2009 05:31 GMT
#288
Leta vs Really!
fuck yeah Leta, + Show Spoiler +
Shin Sang Moon won this game ^^
brood war for life, brood war forever
yoodeok
Profile Joined April 2009
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-15 05:37:48
August 15 2009 05:33 GMT
#289
Tempest hasn't even been expanding these past two games, just putting all his cash into units and picking fights. great screwed up when he fed Tempest his army in the deciding fight in the center just before his defilers popped, erroneously thinking that Tempest had fewer units than he actually had. Then all Tempest had to do was keep pumping zealots and it was over.

VVV It wasn't a last stand. Not that sniping observers and templars didn't hurt great. He might just barely have held on if he had, because while he did give up his natural he did kill all of tempest's army except for the zealots that Tempest was constantly pumping out near the end. Problem was that great also had no units at all to go against those few zealots.
Dad works for Samsung -> automatic rabid Samsung KHAN fanboy. Buy LG and I'll cut you
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-15 05:43:39
August 15 2009 05:33 GMT
#290
On August 15 2009 14:28 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2009 14:25 icystorage wrote:
what did great do wrong? overexpand?


It's andromeda, which suits great perfectly (best macro zerg around probably), so he went for faster hive and expands over mass lair units while expanding, but tempest hit the perfect timing to counter it. 30 secs to a min later and shit loads of upgraded lings and lurks would have owned the army and it's reinforcements leaving tempest 3 vs 5 and probably 7 bases soon.

Man I can't believe you just called great the best macro zerg around All pro level zergs can macro extremely well. The ones that win the most do it the best. July(mainly in zvp), Jaedong, Effort all have sick macro play. Micro is completely linked to the success of zerg macro. Think about it. By the very mechanics of zergs production method micro+macro are more closely related than any other race. Great players create their own macro by microing well, gaining an advantage and using that advantage to produce some extra drones at a time where they might otherwise be forced to make units. That is the art and beauty of zerg play and the main reason I switched to them.

Great is a solid zerg but hes not the best at anything at this point in his career. I think greats decesion to make a final stand where he did and at the time he did cost him this game. Great shouldve made a little sunk/spore defense and actually sniped some obs=/ His failure to snipe any templars or even obs hurt him so bad. The reason tempest got the timing he did is because great made it so easy for him.

A perfect example of fantastic micro leading into unreal macro is Jaedong vs Leta at outsider. Leta does his great version of 2 port wraith but Jaedong counters it beautifully with sick multitask, a fast spire, fast ovie speed and an early 2nd gas. By reversing the role and applying pressure with sick micro(he kept many overlords near his attacking force of mutas) he was able to quickly take 4 bases and an unreal amount of gas. The result of these two elements perfectly combined allowed a master like jaedong to completely overwhelm a build that slaughtered many with only mutilisks. Not only that he made it look easy.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 15 2009 05:35 GMT
#291
Okay. The madness stops now. Jangbi will clean this shit up.
Meh
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
August 15 2009 05:35 GMT
#292
Nal_ra in pink. Haha.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-15 05:37:22
August 15 2009 05:36 GMT
#293
Nal_rA in pink woot!!! i screenied it

[image loading]
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 15 2009 05:39 GMT
#294
jangbi lets gooooooo
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 15 2009 05:40 GMT
#295
Jangbi top left
Tempest bottom right
God's Garden
brood war for life, brood war forever
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 15 2009 05:40 GMT
#296
w00t hoping for some epic pvp
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
August 15 2009 05:41 GMT
#297
Well allllriiiiiiight

Jangbi vs Tempest, STX Masters!
KT leads 2-1.

Map is Neo Harmony.
Jangbi is light blue, top left.
Tempest is some other color, I can't tell, bottom right. Cross positions, no cheese.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 15 2009 05:41 GMT
#298
On August 15 2009 14:40 Crunchums wrote:
Jangbi top left
Tempest bottom right
God's Garden

neo harmonies
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
August 15 2009 05:43 GMT
#299
Nice. Jangbi's zealot stops Tempest's scouting probe.

Jangbi gets into Tempest's base.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
August 15 2009 05:44 GMT
#300
On August 15 2009 14:33 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2009 14:28 Camlito wrote:
On August 15 2009 14:25 icystorage wrote:
what did great do wrong? overexpand?


It's andromeda, which suits great perfectly (best macro zerg around probably), so he went for faster hive and expands over mass lair units while expanding, but tempest hit the perfect timing to counter it. 30 secs to a min later and shit loads of upgraded lings and lurks would have owned the army and it's reinforcements leaving tempest 3 vs 5 and probably 7 bases soon.

Man I can't believe you just called great the best macro zerg around All pro level zergs can macro extremely well. The ones that win the most do it the best. July(mainly in zvp), Jaedong, Effort all have sick macro play. Micro is completely linked to the success of zerg macro. Think about it. By the very mechanics of zergs production method micro+macro are more closely related than any other race. Great players create their own macro by microing well, gaining an advantage and using that advantage to produce some extra drones at a time where they might otherwise be forced to make units. That is the art and beauty of zerg play and the main reason I switched to them.

Great is a solid zerg but hes not the best at anything at this point in his career. I think greats decesion to make a final stand where he did and at the time he did cost him this game. Great shouldve made a little sunk/spore defense and actually sniped some obs=/ His failure to snipe any templars or even obs hurt him so bad. The reason tempest got the timing he did is because great made it so easy for him.


Great is really good at macro, while effort july and jaedong are great at macro AND everything else lol.

What i should have said was one of the best macro zergs. As you said, he wasn't sniping anything, and was throwing away his army - because he is a pretty much all macro zerg and not as much micro/sense as other zergs. His macro is probably better, but other zergs pull off theres better.

But it was andromeda, so he probably got overconfident
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