EPT[Masters] Samsung KHAN vs olleh KT - Page 15
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Xiphos
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usopsama
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khy
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Djabanete
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Not sure which team I'm rooting for here, but I know which players I'm rooting for  | ||
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usopsama
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On August 15 2009 14:27 lazz wrote: tempest is good wtf guys stop hating lol Compared to Violet, Tempest sucks, no offense. great is definitely the favorite nonetheless. | ||
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Crunchums
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fuck yeah Leta, + Show Spoiler + Shin Sang Moon won this game ^^ | ||
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yoodeok
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VVV It wasn't a last stand. Not that sniping observers and templars didn't hurt great. He might just barely have held on if he had, because while he did give up his natural he did kill all of tempest's army except for the zealots that Tempest was constantly pumping out near the end. Problem was that great also had no units at all to go against those few zealots. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
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On August 15 2009 14:28 Camlito wrote: It's andromeda, which suits great perfectly (best macro zerg around probably), so he went for faster hive and expands over mass lair units while expanding, but tempest hit the perfect timing to counter it. 30 secs to a min later and shit loads of upgraded lings and lurks would have owned the army and it's reinforcements leaving tempest 3 vs 5 and probably 7 bases soon. Man I can't believe you just called great the best macro zerg around  All pro level zergs can macro extremely well. The ones that win the most do it the best. July(mainly in zvp), Jaedong, Effort all have sick macro play. Micro is completely linked to the success of zerg macro. Think about it. By the very mechanics of zergs production method micro+macro are more closely related than any other race. Great players create their own macro by microing well, gaining an advantage and using that advantage to produce some extra drones at a time where they might otherwise be forced to make units. That is the art and beauty of zerg play and the main reason I switched to them.Great is a solid zerg but hes not the best at anything at this point in his career. I think greats decesion to make a final stand where he did and at the time he did cost him this game. Great shouldve made a little sunk/spore defense and actually sniped some obs=/ His failure to snipe any templars or even obs hurt him so bad. The reason tempest got the timing he did is because great made it so easy for him. A perfect example of fantastic micro leading into unreal macro is Jaedong vs Leta at outsider. Leta does his great version of 2 port wraith but Jaedong counters it beautifully with sick multitask, a fast spire, fast ovie speed and an early 2nd gas. By reversing the role and applying pressure with sick micro(he kept many overlords near his attacking force of mutas) he was able to quickly take 4 bases and an unreal amount of gas. The result of these two elements perfectly combined allowed a master like jaedong to completely overwhelm a build that slaughtered many with only mutilisks. Not only that he made it look easy. | ||
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Crunchums
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Tempest bottom right God's Garden | ||
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khy
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Jangbi vs Tempest, STX Masters! KT leads 2-1. Map is Neo Harmony. Jangbi is light blue, top left. Tempest is some other color, I can't tell, bottom right. Cross positions, no cheese. | ||
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Kentor
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On August 15 2009 14:40 Crunchums wrote: Jangbi top left Tempest bottom right God's Garden neo harmonies | ||
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khy
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Jangbi gets into Tempest's base. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On August 15 2009 14:33 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Man I can't believe you just called great the best macro zerg around All pro level zergs can macro extremely well. The ones that win the most do it the best. July(mainly in zvp), Jaedong, Effort all have sick macro play. Micro is completely linked to the success of zerg macro. Think about it. By the very mechanics of zergs production method micro+macro are more closely related than any other race. Great players create their own macro by microing well, gaining an advantage and using that advantage to produce some extra drones at a time where they might otherwise be forced to make units. That is the art and beauty of zerg play and the main reason I switched to them.Great is a solid zerg but hes not the best at anything at this point in his career. I think greats decesion to make a final stand where he did and at the time he did cost him this game. Great shouldve made a little sunk/spore defense and actually sniped some obs=/ His failure to snipe any templars or even obs hurt him so bad. The reason tempest got the timing he did is because great made it so easy for him. Great is really good at macro, while effort july and jaedong are great at macro AND everything else lol. What i should have said was one of the best macro zergs. As you said, he wasn't sniping anything, and was throwing away his army - because he is a pretty much all macro zerg and not as much micro/sense as other zergs. His macro is probably better, but other zergs pull off theres better. But it was andromeda, so he probably got overconfident | ||
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