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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 07 2009 11:08 GMT
#1761
On August 07 2009 20:07 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:05 eshlow wrote:
Instead of making guards he should've gotten defiler mound right away and swarmed into fantasy's nat before he had any tanks.

I think standard play would've won him the game


you people should realise that guardians ARE standard in korean pro gamer ZvT on outsider

not for a while
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
August 07 2009 11:08 GMT
#1762
On August 07 2009 20:07 Raol wrote:
I do believe OZ will win. Or at least to send JD to ACE match


yeah...no
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 07 2009 11:08 GMT
#1763
mbc: it's a bit disappointing that lomo's performance is dropping. he was known for showing great wraith micro while chewing gum. he needs to show his true style again, even if he doesn't chew gum, he should just chew something else then! (lol)
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1764
Whats going on? Performances lasted 2 hours or something? Thought I would miss the matches.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1765
On August 07 2009 20:05 Plutonium wrote:
Not sure why Jaedong went for such an unorthodox build.

Feels like he went 12 Hatch -> Guardians, but the guards were all sniped and split up, so they never could really decimate the mnm and break through the front.

Even though Fantasy's expos were eventually overrun by lurkerling, they mostly were mined out, and Fantasy just needed to snipe enough defilers to mass up his tanks.


He had no choice...
Think about it, Jaedong was expecting bunker rush, made lings, pulled drones, made sunken. ALl that and the bunker rush DID NOT COME and Fantasy comfortibly sits back and massed bases.
Jaedong scrambles for tech/expo, but had to sunk up and get quick hive because he know he needed the swarms there.
He's trying to catch up the entire game, for a moment we thought he's in upper hand that's only because we didn't see those mass tanks building
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1766
You can do it Lomo!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1767
On August 07 2009 20:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
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On August 07 2009 20:02 jtan wrote:
klazart is currently over-simplifying last game

jaedong simply lost because of guardians

..............


Hahaha, oh god, he's so awful...


yeah i switched to korean casters . Oh god they just WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better .

damn koreans own foreigners even in SC commentary ... sad
T H C makes ppl happy
Kadin
Profile Joined November 2008
United States125 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1768
Both players played beautifully... I'm just really sad b/c I feel like Jaedong played way too passively in response to Fantasy's failed 8-rax bunker rush, followed by him suiciding his army into sunks. Teching in response to that just seems... un-Jaedongish.

Instead he made guardians (whyyyyy Jaedong! You always lose when you make guardians!), 1 mutalisk scout (100min 100 gas scout wee) and tech'd aggressively, while letting Fantasy match him on expos...

That aside, mid-late game was amazing play, Fantasy outdid himself. One of the best TvZs ever!
Frieder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Italy231 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1769
On August 07 2009 19:55 Mortician wrote:
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On August 07 2009 19:53 oBlade wrote:
It is the greatest TvZ ever played.


Iris vs Savior is still better, imho

maybe best of 2009



There are a lot of better TvZ's in the StarCraft history.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1770
Now we get to see how the OZ teammates respond...

Either they will get fired up and play the games of their lives and take a few OR they will collapse like a wet paper-towel and get stomped 4-0.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1771
On August 07 2009 20:09 Disregard wrote:
Whats going on? Performances lasted 2 hours or something? Thought I would miss the matches.

pregame was 2hrs long
n_n
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1772
On August 07 2009 20:07 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:05 eshlow wrote:
Instead of making guards he should've gotten defiler mound right away and swarmed into fantasy's nat before he had any tanks.

I think standard play would've won him the game


you people should realise that guardians ARE standard in korean pro gamer ZvT on outsider


But not THAT fast.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 11:11:12
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1773
On August 07 2009 20:05 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:04 Sinedd wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:04 jtan wrote:
I'm currently facepalming at sc2ggs analysis of game

hahahahahaha

all game long.. JD eZ win ... JD all map, no chance for this 8rax Terran... To much behind, no chance !!!


If jaedong just played standart with muta harras and lurkers he would have killed him . 2 hat mutas was going to end the game right there .... He didn't capitalize on any early dissadvantage fantasy was in . Not like Jaedong at all .
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1774
On August 07 2009 20:08 Smix wrote:
mbc: it's a bit disappointing that lomo's performance is dropping. he was known for showing great wraith micro while chewing gum. he needs to show his true style again, even if he doesn't chew gum, he should just chew something else then! (lol)


This made me laugh.

Oz' still has a chance, not giving up yet.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
August 07 2009 11:09 GMT
#1775
On August 07 2009 20:09 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:02 jtan wrote:
klazart is currently over-simplifying last game

jaedong simply lost because of guardians

..............


Hahaha, oh god, he's so awful...


yeah i switched to korean casters . Oh god they just WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better .

damn koreans own foreigners even in SC commentary ... sad

idk man, give tasteless and SDM one more person to play off of and they would rival screaming koreans imo
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 07 2009 11:10 GMT
#1776
On August 07 2009 20:05 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:03 g3no wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:02 Kentor wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:01 g3no wrote:
On August 07 2009 19:59 EvoChamber wrote:
Sigh. Well, at least he's going to win the other leagues now.


And u call urself an Oz Fan? FU this isn't over yet.

GO LOMOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

there are oz fans? i thought only jaedong


Excuse me mr. Bisu


no that doesn't work the other way around, I bet there's a ton of SKT fans who aren't big bisu fans

ahahahhha
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 07 2009 11:10 GMT
#1777
yeah jaedong sucks with guardians. i remember people saying that when he got eliminated v. flash in the hwasin/flash/firebathero/jaedong group in osl last time
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 07 2009 11:10 GMT
#1778
On August 07 2009 20:05 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:03 bearbuddy wrote:
Sloppy play by Fantasy. Lost the cloud of vessels, the tank on the cliffs really did nothing but waste dropships and tanks.

Awesome defiler snipes at the end, though.


whats the point of bashing fantasy? he still won


I do not deny that he pulled some good moves, just that this is a good game, but not a perfect game.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 07 2009 11:10 GMT
#1779
On August 07 2009 20:09 OSWater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:09 Sinedd wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On August 07 2009 20:02 jtan wrote:
klazart is currently over-simplifying last game

jaedong simply lost because of guardians

..............


Hahaha, oh god, he's so awful...


yeah i switched to korean casters . Oh god they just WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better .

damn koreans own foreigners even in SC commentary ... sad

idk man, give tasteless and SDM one more person to play off of and they would rival screaming koreans imo


pre S2 tasteless maybe
current tasteless meh
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 07 2009 11:10 GMT
#1780
On August 07 2009 20:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 20:00 iamho wrote:
fucking shitty guard build.

would've won straight away with 3 hat muta


probably
fantasy had barely any turrets in his base and kept his mnm outside his base/near the nat T-T

...

Fantasy was reacting according to Jaedong's build. If JD had gone 3 hatch muta, Fantasy would not have that few turrets.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
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