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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 12:12:17
July 09 2009 12:11 GMT
#441
On July 09 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though

Show nested quote +
Well its not like he did some sort of 2base all in, he was on 4 bases and about to take a 5th when he attacked...
And he did see Fantasy taking a 4th and moving tanks up before he attacked with his obser.


Yeah I don't see Bisu as doing anything unusually aggressive with his build order... more like he played standard and noticed a weakness in Fantasy's build.
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Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
July 09 2009 12:13 GMT
#442
How come? Losing to go.go cannot be a good thing.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 09 2009 12:17 GMT
#443
On July 09 2009 13:39 Scaramanga wrote:
you serously think that flash will lose to kwanro konadora?


You jinxed it you mfer, gtfo.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 12:21:45
July 09 2009 12:18 GMT
#444
On July 09 2009 20:52 humblegar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
I wouldnt be surprised if fantasy "gives" this win to Bisu


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On July 09 2009 20:30 SuperArc wrote:
idle vultures

Is it just me or does this game look cheap?


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On July 09 2009 20:36 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 20:35 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
I thought fantasy could do better.. no matter how good bisu played.. that was a weak weak performance by fantasy..


of course, he cant kick Bisu out of his last SL, can he?


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On July 09 2009 20:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 20:41 writer22816 wrote:
Fantasy will still win the Bo3, because, Nobody fucks on Fantasy.


if Bisu stays in the OSL, fantasy will most likely win yes

otherwise fantasy "loses" again


How about you stop calling progamers cheaters unless you have something to back up the claim?
Wow, I didnt notice the pattern until you gathered it like this.
You're ridiculous Arc.

On July 09 2009 20:56 Oystein wrote:
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On July 09 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though

Well its not like he did some sort of 2base all in, he was on 4 bases and about to take a 5th when he attacked...
And he did see Fantasy taking a 4th and moving tanks up before he attacked with his obser.
Do you realize you're arguing with one of the top3 terran minds outside of korea?^^
BW fighting!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 12:32:02
July 09 2009 12:23 GMT
#445
POGGERS
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 09 2009 12:25 GMT
#446
On July 09 2009 20:56 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though

Well its not like he did some sort of 2base all in, he was on 4 bases and about to take a 5th when he attacked...
And he did see Fantasy taking a 4th and moving tanks up before he attacked with his obser.


yeah, it's not an all-in, and i certainly didn't say it was, it's just highly aggressive and protoss don't do it because it has a pretty low success rate against the current tvp metagame, 3base double armory with fast vessel. you basically can't hold the counterattack.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 12:30:03
July 09 2009 12:28 GMT
#447
On July 09 2009 21:05 ArvickHero wrote:
Hwasin will drop the game for revenge against Bisu haha


Well, it was actuelly go.go who picked Hwasin for "insurance", not Bisu. And if Hwasin wins, he does have the chance to advance in the tiebreaker.(But i think Bisu will most likely crush both)
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 09 2009 12:33 GMT
#448
Haha, Zero's unstoppable, good PvZ.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 09 2009 12:39 GMT
#449
On July 09 2009 21:28 Jonvvv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 21:05 ArvickHero wrote:
Hwasin will drop the game for revenge against Bisu haha


Well, it was actuelly go.go who picked Hwasin for "insurance", not Bisu. And if Hwasin wins, he does have the chance to advance in the tiebreaker.(But i think Bisu will most likely crush both)

Well, the possiblity is still there imo.. Its a good thing Bisu decided against totally humiliating Hwasin with Scouts or something when he had that massive advantage, otherwise I'd say he's going to drop it for sure haha
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
July 09 2009 12:40 GMT
#450
On July 09 2009 21:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 20:56 Oystein wrote:
On July 09 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though

Well its not like he did some sort of 2base all in, he was on 4 bases and about to take a 5th when he attacked...
And he did see Fantasy taking a 4th and moving tanks up before he attacked with his obser.


yeah, it's not an all-in, and i certainly didn't say it was, it's just highly aggressive and protoss don't do it because it has a pretty low success rate against the current tvp metagame, 3base double armory with fast vessel. you basically can't hold the counterattack.

Are you talking about his general build order or his attack?
God Hates a Coward
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
July 09 2009 12:58 GMT
#451
Konadora, did you translate the "about the player" in the Bisu vs Fantasy game?
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 09 2009 13:14 GMT
#452
HOLY FUCK!!
FLASH!!! YOU GOT KWANROLLED!!!

as a CJ fan im kinda glad but still!!!! FLASH PLAY BETTER!!!!

(caps were needed here)
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 13:44:46
July 09 2009 13:31 GMT
#453
On July 09 2009 20:54 SuperArc wrote:
I know how fantasy usually plays and this was not like it?

You know nothing, Bisu has 3 times more experience than fantasy and has beaten every single S-class TvPer there is. fantasy was on streak. so what ?
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
July 09 2009 13:32 GMT
#454
Welcome to slump, Flash. Enjoy your stay.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
July 09 2009 13:51 GMT
#455
how come Liquidbet alread put winners after 1 match, when it says vote is for whole bo3 series!!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 09 2009 14:10 GMT
#456
zerglings bunker-runby was today's theme? Effort winning UpMagiC is no surprise but man Flash...
brilliant play by ZerO once again, he's quickly becoming my 2nd favourite zerg & player! haven't seen the Fantasy vs Bisu yet, waiting for it to pop up @ youtube ;p
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
July 09 2009 14:56 GMT
#457
This totaly destroy my liquibed U,U
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 09 2009 15:01 GMT
#458
Why am I not surprised Kwanro won.... C'mon Flash, YOU CAN DO IT
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 09 2009 15:43 GMT
#459
Flash

The worst thing is that he plays TvZ all the time and gets raped all the time these days.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 09 2009 15:58 GMT
#460
Flash's TvZ: bad, bad times
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