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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
July 09 2009 11:39 GMT
#421
On July 09 2009 20:37 OSWater wrote:
Fantasy never plays that horrible. Something is either seriously wrong with him or something in his personal life, he's sick or something got arranged for Bisu to win.
There is no way that Fantasy could play that bad against Bisu after the last time the played against each other.

ok, now I think you're a bit over the top
He played a harass-reliant style to buy time for setting up a strong economy, upgrades and macro but since his harass failed, Bisu came in at a timing before Fantasy's play evolved into any quantities of units.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 09 2009 11:40 GMT
#422
whoa, pretty rare misplay from fantasy. he read bisu totally wrong, staying on so few factories and making a fourth cc vs bisu's 2 gas arbiter 12gate attack

bisu did a nice job defending the harass, but yeah fantasy misread the situation completely. that doesnt happen often!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
July 09 2009 11:40 GMT
#423
I think the difference between now and last time they played. In Batoo, (P)Bisu was too confident. Now, (T)fantasy was too confident.
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ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 11:45:01
July 09 2009 11:40 GMT
#424
Nice! good day for the zergs!

Flash get your shit together


one more to go Bisu one more

Kim Taek Yong Fighting!
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 09 2009 11:41 GMT
#425
Fantasy will still win the Bo3, because, Nobody fucks on Fantasy.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 11:48:54
July 09 2009 11:41 GMT
#426
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 09 2009 11:41 GMT
#427
On July 09 2009 20:41 writer22816 wrote:
Fantasy will still win the Bo3, because, Nobody fucks on Fantasy.


if Bisu stays in the OSL, fantasy will most likely win yes

otherwise fantasy "loses" again
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 09 2009 11:42 GMT
#428
uhm, these guys play each other so much that games like this (even when one sided) mean way less than say stork vs fantasy or bisu vs flash. just like the 3-0 of bisu last time didn't mean a whole lot. jaedong vs forgg same story, etc
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[skY]
Profile Joined July 2009
6 Posts
July 09 2009 11:42 GMT
#429
That's more like it, Bisu.
Defeat the tide
Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
July 09 2009 11:42 GMT
#430
i hope go.go loses tom. go hwasin!! OSL is not fun without KTY
Smoke weed everyday!
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
July 09 2009 11:42 GMT
#431
I have never seen such good defence by anyone ever in PvT. I guess it have helped practising so much with Fantasy knowing his timings and attack patterns because Bisu moved around his forces at the perfect places cosntantly.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 09 2009 11:45 GMT
#432
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skt ftw
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
July 09 2009 11:49 GMT
#433
Canata is such a beast!
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humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
July 09 2009 11:52 GMT
#434
On July 09 2009 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
I wouldnt be surprised if fantasy "gives" this win to Bisu


On July 09 2009 20:30 SuperArc wrote:
idle vultures

Is it just me or does this game look cheap?


On July 09 2009 20:36 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 20:35 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
I thought fantasy could do better.. no matter how good bisu played.. that was a weak weak performance by fantasy..


of course, he cant kick Bisu out of his last SL, can he?


On July 09 2009 20:41 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 20:41 writer22816 wrote:
Fantasy will still win the Bo3, because, Nobody fucks on Fantasy.


if Bisu stays in the OSL, fantasy will most likely win yes

otherwise fantasy "loses" again


How about you stop calling progamers cheaters unless you have something to back up the claim?
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 09 2009 11:54 GMT
#435
I know how fantasy usually plays and this was not like it?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
July 09 2009 11:56 GMT
#436
So I know this is the MSL, but I'm a little confused about the OSL. What has to happen for Bisu to stay in the OSL, and why? I heard it had something to do with go-go, but....
Moo
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
July 09 2009 11:56 GMT
#437
On July 09 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also note that protoss don't usually do that 2base arbiter 12gate attack because any sorta 3base macro timing will defend it pretty easily. great choice against what fantasy did that game though

Well its not like he did some sort of 2base all in, he was on 4 bases and about to take a 5th when he attacked...
And he did see Fantasy taking a 4th and moving tanks up before he attacked with his obser.
God Hates a Coward
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 09 2009 11:57 GMT
#438
On July 09 2009 20:56 latent wrote:
So I know this is the MSL, but I'm a little confused about the OSL. What has to happen for Bisu to stay in the OSL, and why? I heard it had something to do with go-go, but....


If Hwasin wins against go.go Bisu can keep himself in the OSL with a tie break win.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 09 2009 11:57 GMT
#439
On July 09 2009 20:56 latent wrote:
So I know this is the MSL, but I'm a little confused about the OSL. What has to happen for Bisu to stay in the OSL, and why? I heard it had something to do with go-go, but....

Go.go beats hwasin.

Bisu gets eliminated from OSL.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 09 2009 12:05 GMT
#440
Hwasin will drop the game for revenge against Bisu haha
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