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UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
June 24 2009 19:47 GMT
#781
So many Toss players slumping. Bisu hasn't won anything significant in a while and has lost quite a few games lately. Stork is just a complete train wreck...


...just because players lose some games does not mean they are slumping. Type-b played an absolutely impressive match, literally no mistakes (except for the failed drop which he couldnt really predict anyway), but stork was behind all game with one small window of opportunity that he did not take advantage of. Bisu, though I dont agree with his build choice (I would argue that a DT drop could have won him the game, since go.go didnt get scans till after turrets, and he only placed a turret in the front before making the ring around his base), tried his best to micro against go.go's timed push. go.go obviously planned going tank+m&m from the beginning as he did not make a single vulture, bisu should have seen that (and at one point he suspected something wrong cuz he sent 2 obs at the same time) but it was too late. It was just a bad BO choice, we all suspected that go.go was probably not gonna play a straight up game either.

so no, toss players are not slumping. stork & bisu didnt choke, they lost legitimate games against lower-class players who simply did better this time. in fact, i am gonna say that stork and bisu have been playing quite well lately, with a few random losses here and there. but other than that, both are in great shape right now...you cant expect the best to win all matches...SC wouldnt be fun if that was the case
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ToT)SiLeNcE(
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany590 Posts
June 24 2009 19:48 GMT
#782
The VODs are on youku by the way. They have chinese commentary and are not really high quality. Sometimes loading takes forever, but today I was actually able to watch them instantly. To find them:

1. Navigate to www.youku.com
2. Enter the names of the players in the search box, i.e. "jaedong effort"
3. The second "order-by" link from the left is the one to order them by date. Click it
4. Look for OSL or 24-6 somewhere in the description.

Worked quite well for me... (maybe because it's night in china now)
bh.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States342 Posts
June 24 2009 19:58 GMT
#783
On June 25 2009 04:48 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The VODs are on youku by the way. They have chinese commentary and are not really high quality. Sometimes loading takes forever, but today I was actually able to watch them instantly. To find them:

1. Navigate to www.youku.com
2. Enter the names of the players in the search box, i.e. "jaedong effort"
3. The second "order-by" link from the left is the one to order them by date. Click it
4. Look for OSL or 24-6 somewhere in the description.

Worked quite well for me... (maybe because it's night in china now)



THANK YOU! been wanting to find it all morning
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
June 24 2009 20:13 GMT
#784
On June 24 2009 20:16 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?


Completely BM. :p


You can't BM someone who said that you're their "insurance". Nothing's too good for that kind of arrogance
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 24 2009 20:15 GMT
#785
On June 25 2009 04:37 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 00:51 Jayme wrote:
On June 25 2009 00:34 JWD wrote:
TT Bisu...looks like bio from go.go, based on that pic. I'm not surprised.

That proxy CC crap is getting old - I really hope go.go is crushed by the rest of his group.


In Go.go's defense he had a legitimate reason to do it this time.


which is..?


Bisu called him "Insurance" during the group stages. Like an easy win?

If someone said that to me and then I beat them you can be sure I'd taunt them if I could.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 24 2009 20:19 GMT
#786
On June 25 2009 04:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Wow looks like Sparkyz players won and they had the most entertaining games. Can't wait to watch the Vods.

Though did Bisu and Gogo really hug again back stage(probably won't be in the Vods)? I can understand doing it during the group selection as a joke but after the CC ceremony? I guess they're friends and the CC was just for show? Kind of like I heard that FBH and Gogo hate each other publicly for show, but are actually friendly.

That picture was taken at the Group Selection.
Jaedong
BlackYoshi
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
June 24 2009 20:20 GMT
#787
Any idea when the VODs will be up?
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 24 2009 20:33 GMT
#788
yes Jaedong, i knew it! and seems like it wasn't the only epic game of this days osl:s, can't wait to get the VODS on my hands!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
June 24 2009 20:49 GMT
#789
On June 24 2009 20:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 20:16 darktreb wrote:
On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?


When Terran's push is succeeding, it's often a good idea to take a 3rd.

Yes but that had nothing to do with it here.


ORLY?
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Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
June 24 2009 20:53 GMT
#790
give it 24 hours or so
bh.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States342 Posts
June 24 2009 20:56 GMT
#791
youku has vods! see above
88)Minion
Profile Joined March 2003
Brazil16 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:00:18
June 24 2009 21:00 GMT
#792
that pic in the spoiler for bisu vs go.go is pure gold
rofl
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:29:57
June 24 2009 21:29 GMT
#793
On June 25 2009 05:15 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 04:37 7mk wrote:
On June 25 2009 00:51 Jayme wrote:
On June 25 2009 00:34 JWD wrote:
TT Bisu...looks like bio from go.go, based on that pic. I'm not surprised.

That proxy CC crap is getting old - I really hope go.go is crushed by the rest of his group.


In Go.go's defense he had a legitimate reason to do it this time.


which is..?


Bisu called him "Insurance" during the group stages. Like an easy win?

If someone said that to me and then I beat them you can be sure I'd taunt them if I could.


Why do people keep saying this? Backho said go.go was his insurance, not Bisu..

Bisu was really well mannered during the group selection..
BW forever || Thall
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:31:26
June 24 2009 21:30 GMT
#794
On June 25 2009 05:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 04:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Wow looks like Sparkyz players won and they had the most entertaining games. Can't wait to watch the Vods.

Though did Bisu and Gogo really hug again back stage(probably won't be in the Vods)? I can understand doing it during the group selection as a joke but after the CC ceremony? I guess they're friends and the CC was just for show? Kind of like I heard that FBH and Gogo hate each other publicly for show, but are actually friendly.

That picture was taken at the Group Selection.


Yeah I know, just it was mentioned in this thread and thought they were talking about what happened after the game. Went back and the person was most likely referring to the picture. Thought poster was referring to how they sometimes show the players backstage after the game.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 24 2009 21:37 GMT
#795
Yet again, Bisu's curse of the insurance terran.

arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 24 2009 21:43 GMT
#796
I have to watch this, seriously bio TvP and a command center.

this is gonna be awesome
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:48:03
June 24 2009 21:45 GMT
#797
Hmm actually Bisu has horrible stats on ROTK. He won 2 games in total and one PvT...vs Mind where he used the exact same build as today. There are maps,where KTY really struggles to play on... ROTK, Byzantium... "I have no idea how to PvP on this map" - well learn how to. I'm sure he will advance cause he already played his "bad" map, but his attitude for the game is wrong, you cant lose game on the same map over and over again and just use stupid builds to see what will happen. I hope he gets his shit together cause the map poll is really in his favor this season.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 24 2009 21:49 GMT
#798
Storrrrrrk

Ah well, I like type-B too and gogo winning(and Bisu losing) makes me happy.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 22:27:47
June 24 2009 22:17 GMT
#799
Looking at the replay for JD vs Effort, it would seem that Effort didn't micro his mutalisks to fire as quickly as possible? Is that why he lost because I can't find any other explaination.
Haha, Type-B with his Slow-tralisks were funny.
Jaedong
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 24 2009 22:27 GMT
#800
On June 25 2009 04:47 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
So many Toss players slumping. Bisu hasn't won anything significant in a while and has lost quite a few games lately. Stork is just a complete train wreck...


...just because players lose some games does not mean they are slumping. Type-b played an absolutely impressive match, literally no mistakes (except for the failed drop which he couldnt really predict anyway), but stork was behind all game with one small window of opportunity that he did not take advantage of. Bisu, though I dont agree with his build choice (I would argue that a DT drop could have won him the game, since go.go didnt get scans till after turrets, and he only placed a turret in the front before making the ring around his base), tried his best to micro against go.go's timed push. go.go obviously planned going tank+m&m from the beginning as he did not make a single vulture, bisu should have seen that (and at one point he suspected something wrong cuz he sent 2 obs at the same time) but it was too late. It was just a bad BO choice, we all suspected that go.go was probably not gonna play a straight up game either.

so no, toss players are not slumping. stork & bisu didnt choke, they lost legitimate games against lower-class players who simply did better this time. in fact, i am gonna say that stork and bisu have been playing quite well lately, with a few random losses here and there. but other than that, both are in great shape right now...you cant expect the best to win all matches...SC wouldnt be fun if that was the case


Bisu's lost his opening games in both the MSL and OSL for the current season, and has had noticeable losses in the Proleague as well. While he isn't as bad as Stork, it's definitely noticeable.

Stork is crashing and burning. He was knocked out of the GOM tournament in the round of 64 by a total no-name, and he also dropped his opening OSL and MSL matches. He's also lost a couple noticeable Proleague matches.

Jangbi is in the same boat with Stork. He was knocked out in the round of 64 in the GOM tournament, lost his opening MSL game, and, along with Stork, went through that embarrassing clean sweep by SPARKYZ.

Yes, our top Toss players are in a bit of a slump.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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