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So many Toss players slumping. Bisu hasn't won anything significant in a while and has lost quite a few games lately. Stork is just a complete train wreck...
...just because players lose some games does not mean they are slumping. Type-b played an absolutely impressive match, literally no mistakes (except for the failed drop which he couldnt really predict anyway), but stork was behind all game with one small window of opportunity that he did not take advantage of. Bisu, though I dont agree with his build choice (I would argue that a DT drop could have won him the game, since go.go didnt get scans till after turrets, and he only placed a turret in the front before making the ring around his base), tried his best to micro against go.go's timed push. go.go obviously planned going tank+m&m from the beginning as he did not make a single vulture, bisu should have seen that (and at one point he suspected something wrong cuz he sent 2 obs at the same time) but it was too late. It was just a bad BO choice, we all suspected that go.go was probably not gonna play a straight up game either.
so no, toss players are not slumping. stork & bisu didnt choke, they lost legitimate games against lower-class players who simply did better this time. in fact, i am gonna say that stork and bisu have been playing quite well lately, with a few random losses here and there. but other than that, both are in great shape right now...you cant expect the best to win all matches...SC wouldnt be fun if that was the case
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The VODs are on youku by the way. They have chinese commentary and are not really high quality. Sometimes loading takes forever, but today I was actually able to watch them instantly. To find them:
1. Navigate to www.youku.com
2. Enter the names of the players in the search box, i.e. "jaedong effort"
3. The second "order-by" link from the left is the one to order them by date. Click it
4. Look for OSL or 24-6 somewhere in the description.
Worked quite well for me... (maybe because it's night in china now)
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On June 25 2009 04:48 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:The VODs are on youku by the way. They have chinese commentary and are not really high quality. Sometimes loading takes forever, but today I was actually able to watch them instantly. To find them: 1. Navigate to www.youku.com2. Enter the names of the players in the search box, i.e. "jaedong effort" 3. The second "order-by" link from the left is the one to order them by date. Click it 4. Look for OSL or 24-6 somewhere in the description. Worked quite well for me... (maybe because it's night in china now)
THANK YOU! been wanting to find it all morning
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On June 24 2009 20:16 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that? Completely BM. :p
You can't BM someone who said that you're their "insurance". Nothing's too good for that kind of arrogance 
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On June 25 2009 04:37 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2009 00:51 Jayme wrote:On June 25 2009 00:34 JWD wrote:
TT Bisu...looks like bio from go.go, based on that pic. I'm not surprised.
That proxy CC crap is getting old - I really hope go.go is crushed by the rest of his group. In Go.go's defense he had a legitimate reason to do it this time. which is..?
Bisu called him "Insurance" during the group stages. Like an easy win?
If someone said that to me and then I beat them you can be sure I'd taunt them if I could.
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On June 25 2009 04:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Wow looks like Sparkyz players won and they had the most entertaining games. Can't wait to watch the Vods.
Though did Bisu and Gogo really hug again back stage(probably won't be in the Vods)? I can understand doing it during the group selection as a joke but after the CC ceremony? I guess they're friends and the CC was just for show? Kind of like I heard that FBH and Gogo hate each other publicly for show, but are actually friendly.
That picture was taken at the Group Selection.
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Any idea when the VODs will be up?
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yes Jaedong, i knew it! and seems like it wasn't the only epic game of this days osl:s, can't wait to get the VODS on my hands!
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On June 24 2009 20:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:16 darktreb wrote:On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that? When Terran's push is succeeding, it's often a good idea to take a 3rd. Yes but that had nothing to do with it here.
ORLY?
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youku has vods! see above
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that pic in the spoiler for bisu vs go.go is pure gold
rofl
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On June 25 2009 05:15 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2009 04:37 7mk wrote:On June 25 2009 00:51 Jayme wrote:On June 25 2009 00:34 JWD wrote:
TT Bisu...looks like bio from go.go, based on that pic. I'm not surprised.
That proxy CC crap is getting old - I really hope go.go is crushed by the rest of his group. In Go.go's defense he had a legitimate reason to do it this time. which is..? Bisu called him "Insurance" during the group stages. Like an easy win? If someone said that to me and then I beat them you can be sure I'd taunt them if I could.
Why do people keep saying this? Backho said go.go was his insurance, not Bisu..
Bisu was really well mannered during the group selection..
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On June 25 2009 05:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2009 04:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Wow looks like Sparkyz players won and they had the most entertaining games. Can't wait to watch the Vods.
Though did Bisu and Gogo really hug again back stage(probably won't be in the Vods)? I can understand doing it during the group selection as a joke but after the CC ceremony? I guess they're friends and the CC was just for show? Kind of like I heard that FBH and Gogo hate each other publicly for show, but are actually friendly. That picture was taken at the Group Selection.
Yeah I know, just it was mentioned in this thread and thought they were talking about what happened after the game. Went back and the person was most likely referring to the picture. Thought poster was referring to how they sometimes show the players backstage after the game.
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Yet again, Bisu's curse of the insurance terran.
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I have to watch this, seriously bio TvP and a command center.
this is gonna be awesome
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Hmm actually Bisu has horrible stats on ROTK. He won 2 games in total and one PvT...vs Mind where he used the exact same build as today. There are maps,where KTY really struggles to play on... ROTK, Byzantium... "I have no idea how to PvP on this map" - well learn how to. I'm sure he will advance cause he already played his "bad" map, but his attitude for the game is wrong, you cant lose game on the same map over and over again and just use stupid builds to see what will happen. I hope he gets his shit together cause the map poll is really in his favor this season.
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United States13143 Posts
Storrrrrrk 
Ah well, I like type-B too and gogo winning(and Bisu losing) makes me happy.
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Looking at the replay for JD vs Effort, it would seem that Effort didn't micro his mutalisks to fire as quickly as possible? Is that why he lost because I can't find any other explaination.
Haha, Type-B with his Slow-tralisks were funny.
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On June 25 2009 04:47 UGC4 wrote:Show nested quote +So many Toss players slumping. Bisu hasn't won anything significant in a while and has lost quite a few games lately. Stork is just a complete train wreck... ...just because players lose some games does not mean they are slumping. Type-b played an absolutely impressive match, literally no mistakes (except for the failed drop which he couldnt really predict anyway), but stork was behind all game with one small window of opportunity that he did not take advantage of. Bisu, though I dont agree with his build choice (I would argue that a DT drop could have won him the game, since go.go didnt get scans till after turrets, and he only placed a turret in the front before making the ring around his base), tried his best to micro against go.go's timed push. go.go obviously planned going tank+m&m from the beginning as he did not make a single vulture, bisu should have seen that (and at one point he suspected something wrong cuz he sent 2 obs at the same time) but it was too late. It was just a bad BO choice, we all suspected that go.go was probably not gonna play a straight up game either. so no, toss players are not slumping. stork & bisu didnt choke, they lost legitimate games against lower-class players who simply did better this time. in fact, i am gonna say that stork and bisu have been playing quite well lately, with a few random losses here and there. but other than that, both are in great shape right now...you cant expect the best to win all matches...SC wouldnt be fun if that was the case
Bisu's lost his opening games in both the MSL and OSL for the current season, and has had noticeable losses in the Proleague as well. While he isn't as bad as Stork, it's definitely noticeable.
Stork is crashing and burning. He was knocked out of the GOM tournament in the round of 64 by a total no-name, and he also dropped his opening OSL and MSL matches. He's also lost a couple noticeable Proleague matches.
Jangbi is in the same boat with Stork. He was knocked out in the round of 64 in the GOM tournament, lost his opening MSL game, and, along with Stork, went through that embarrassing clean sweep by SPARKYZ.
Yes, our top Toss players are in a bit of a slump.
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