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[MSL] Avalon MSL Round of 32 Day 3 - Page 45

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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 18 2009 21:14 GMT
#881
oh yes fantasy, oh yes!
Too bad no TvZ though
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
June 18 2009 21:16 GMT
#882
On June 19 2009 02:15 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again..

Jaedong does this all the time. Looses first game, then wins the next do or die games.
Its part of his ritual.


Like last MSL ro32?
BW forever || Thall
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 18 2009 21:25 GMT
#883
Aww, I hoped Movie and Jaedong would qualify...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
June 18 2009 22:08 GMT
#884
Uncharacteristically stubborn play from JD. This map is very P>Z though so maybe JD had very few successful builds in practice and he just got a little stuck.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 18 2009 22:22 GMT
#885
On June 19 2009 02:15 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again..

Jaedong does this all the time. Looses first game, then wins the next do or die games.
Its part of his ritual.

Yeah, he always tries to lose the first game, just to give himself a challenge.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
NiTenIchiRyu
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom273 Posts
June 18 2009 22:42 GMT
#886
On June 19 2009 06:16 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2009 02:15 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again..

Jaedong does this all the time. Looses first game, then wins the next do or die games.
Its part of his ritual.


Like last MSL ro32?

More like the OSL finals.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
June 18 2009 22:52 GMT
#887
So glad I didn't stay up to watch "Fantasy v Jaedong" lol.
JitNik
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation134 Posts
June 18 2009 23:21 GMT
#888
the berserker won
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
June 18 2009 23:23 GMT
#889
On June 19 2009 06:25 SuperArc wrote:
Aww, I hoped Movie and Jaedong would qualify...

Fuck me too =/ Now since I can only choose between the two, I hope JD advances.........sorry Movie ;_;
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darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
June 19 2009 02:39 GMT
#890
Nice timing attack by Movie. Hope he makes it through.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 19 2009 03:47 GMT
#891
Come on Movie, plz go through in the 2nd round of this group. ^^
觀過斯知仁矣.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
June 19 2009 03:57 GMT
#892
Movie fought like hell against fantasy, and he came so close, he just barely couldn't break fantasy. I dk why that game wasn't recommended, the end was pretty crazy with both players starving each other out/fantasy having basically no gas for half the game, etc.
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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 06:11:31
June 19 2009 05:55 GMT
#893
Watching those games, you can tell Movie is going to be a household name sooner than later.

Absolutely impossible to talk shit about Movie after those two games, even the loss was brilliantly played, there is no way Jaedong v Fantasy could be that entertaining. Those were literally two of the ballsiest games I have ever seen and he pulled some impressive shit.

Awesome, entertaining games. Jaedong unquestionably deserved to lose for not taking movie's build seriously.

On June 19 2009 07:52 Vasoline73 wrote:
So glad I didn't stay up to watch "Fantasy v Jaedong" lol.


you missed a much much better game than that

On June 19 2009 03:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
It seems to me that Movie lacks confidence in his straight up play since he went for unorthodox builds in both games. But I don't know why, his straight up game is really good. Once he clicks and consistently brings his play to somewhere around where he played last night (no more games like that vs Killer, plz), CJ will be unstoppable.


Even though his builds were unorthodox, Movie played with total confidence there. His micro was spot-on (especially against JD) and he didn't really cheese rush either time - he just knew what he wanted to use for an aggressive opener and executed near-perfectly both times. Those games were a goddamn joy to watch and I'll take all the unorthodox builds in the world to see a player that ballsy and aggressive, with good transitions and mid/lategame play to boot.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 19 2009 06:34 GMT
#894
well said tedster, movie is a badass
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
June 19 2009 07:00 GMT
#895
never knew you could even play pvt like that
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
June 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#896
Movie's build vs Jaedong was exceptional. The timing is just perfect and the concept so bizarre that you wouldn't think of it at all. Who cares whatever confidence he has; when you have builds that just win like that you do them.

The Outsider game wasn't as good as it looked though, at least from his part. He made major mistakes in suiciding his army into Fantasy's choke, refusing to hang his arbiters back and actually get off stasises, and not building templars when he was trading armies for expansions. Some things he did, particularly using a shuttle + that gateway at 3 to permanently shutdown/harass Fantasy's 3 min expo was really nice. But honestly that game felt more like Fantasy vs Outsider than anything. What a terrible map.

On the other hand wow Fantasy is good at TvP. Beastly builds, exceptional timing and harass, great decision making. I'm running out of words to describe him but his play is so fluid, shifting between harass and economical focus.
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mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
June 19 2009 09:08 GMT
#897
Movie's PvZ is sick, his PvT not so much.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 19 2009 14:12 GMT
#898
On June 19 2009 04:02 St0rmRush wrote:
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Wow. This is one of the most exciting TvZs I can remember watching in a long long time. Very agressive play and amazing defence. Can Nada's agressive strategies overcome Iris' suddenly fearsome macro?




what is up with this? TvZ? Please fix it ^_^
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SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
June 19 2009 14:46 GMT
#899
Okay, I just watched Jaedong vs Movie and here's my thoughts:

Jaedong went for a very standard build, but his greatest fault here lies in not getting speed upgrade for lings. Also, Movie prepared a very timing-precise build. If you notice the timing when Movie starts to push out with his small 3 goon 1 zealot army, Jaedong was just about to finish his 4th and 5th hatcheries. That meant that was like, 30 seconds before his macro would have kicked in, and at least one of the hydra upgrades would have been done. Basically, Movie attacked Jaedong's Achilles' Heel, the small timing window where Jaedong was on the verge of having his macro explode and hydras flood out. Jaedong didn't get any sunkens, because 1) getting sunkens would mean his economy will be hurt (less drones, and he can't pump drones because he needed hydras/lings more) and 2) sunkens die very fast to dragoons. Also, Movie kept pumping probes from his two nexuses, which made Jaedong think that Movie wasn't really focusing on army, and instead was going for a standard build. This thinking led Jaedong not to get speed ling upgrades, and by the time speed upgrade was done, Movie had already gathered a critical mass of dragoons and had teched to templar archives, thus getting DTs and archon reinforcements later on and taking the game.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 19 2009 14:53 GMT
#900
On June 19 2009 14:55 tedster wrote:
Watching those games, you can tell Movie is going to be a household name sooner than later.

Absolutely impossible to talk shit about Movie after those two games, even the loss was brilliantly played, there is no way Jaedong v Fantasy could be that entertaining. Those were literally two of the ballsiest games I have ever seen and he pulled some impressive shit.



Am I one of the only ones that didn't think Movie played all that well against Fantasy?

I mean he harassed on a map that pretty much does it for the protoss itself so that wasn't really so amazing. After the first recalls he was never able to get another arbiter spell off period. Lots of sloppy army movements and the like.
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