EPT[GOM] Ro16, Day 1 - Page 27
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13070 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
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Solidus_315
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On June 07 2009 20:37 SuperArc wrote: July showed us today how we won the golden mouse. i didn't know u won a golden mouse O.o | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:45 keV. wrote: Short of beating JD on a fluke failed 5 pool, skyhigh's 14-6 vZ record is not that impressive. I think July has a good chance if he plays golden mouse mode. He is the god of war people... If July were to win GOM, he would have to face Skyhigh and potentially Flash and Jaedong in Bo5s which is pretty impossible | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10866 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:47 o3.power91 wrote: If July were to win GOM, he would have to face Skyhigh and potentially Flash and Jaedong in Bo5s which is pretty impossible First off, I never said he would win it. (However, he is one of the best series players to ever play the game, no one expected him to win Ever OSL 08 either.) Secondly, I don't think he can beat Jaedong or Flash, (<-though that is more likely)... He can definitely beat skyhigh. He is a new player with no where near the experience and a lackluster set of victories in TvZ... | ||
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darktreb
United States3017 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
And yet they all rape protoss. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:54 darktreb wrote: You guys are all discounting the fact that July hasn't played good ZvT in forever.... He did in the all star race battles. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Also, he played really fucking good. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:51 keV. wrote: First off, I never said he would win it. (However, he is one of the best series players to ever play the game, no one expected him to win Ever OSL 08 either.) Secondly, I don't think he can beat Jaedong or Flash, (<-though that is more likely)... He can definitely beat skyhigh. He is a new player with no where near the experience and a lackluster set of victories in TvZ... Obviously no one expected him to win Ever OSL 08. But having a road of Rock, Backho, and Best for his OSL, not to mention an all Z Ro16 group is not too impressive. Also, even though he has better chances against Skyhigh than Jaedong or Flash, I still believe he will lose. July lost to pepe last GOM season ffs | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:45 keV. wrote: skyhigh's 14-6 vZ record is not that impressive. 14-6 is 70% Jaedong's 80% ZvZ is more impressive though | ||
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Solidus_315
213 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:51 keV. wrote: First off, I never said he would win it. (However, he is one of the best series players to ever play the game, no one expected him to win Ever OSL 08 either.) Secondly, I don't think he can beat Jaedong or Flash, though that is more likely... He can definitely beat skyhigh. He is a new player with no where near the experience and a lackluster set of victories in TvZ... well, we will see. He's level of play seems to have decreased quite a lot lately. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:58 o3.power91 wrote: 14-6 is 70% Jaedong's 80% ZvZ is more impressive though Actually I was referring to the fact that he beat average and below average players, not that the percentage was high. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 07 2009 20:59 keV. wrote: Actually I was referring to the fact that he beat average and below average players, not that the percentage was high. And how about July's last few ZvT games (with the exception of Sea and Light; I'll admit that's not bad)? PS. Please note that the only Zergs skyhigh has lost to are Yarnc, Jaedong, and Hyvaa | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 07 2009 21:02 o3.power91 wrote: And how about July's last few ZvT games (with the exception of Sea and Light; I'll admit that's not bad)? The only reason I can make a statement like that about skyhigh, is that he has only played 20 TvZs. It doesn't hold weight when the person you are talking about has 150+. Also he beat Nada and Hwasin in the all star race battle in mid march, (TvZ specialists) So, that point doesn't hold either. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 07 2009 21:05 keV. wrote: The only reason I can make a statement like that about skyhigh, is that he has only played 20 TvZs. It doesn't hold weight when the person you are talking about has 150+. ok. July is 9-11 in his last 20 ZvTs. Obviously you can't compare Skyhigh's TvZ to July's entire record. That would just be unfair. Edit: look at the PS in my previous post Also he beat Nada and Hwasin in the all star race battle in mid march, (TvZ specialists) So, that point doesn't hold either. Fair point. My argument though would be that both players haven't been performing well at the time. The all star race battle TvZ was held on March 16, 2009 if I'm not mistaken. Hwasin at the time was 4-6 in his last 10 TvZs. To be fair the losses were to by.hero, Luxury, Hyvaa, and Yarnc and the wins were against Jaedong (on Byzantium, the same map Ganzi beat Jaedong), Luxury (again on Byzantium; and another game on Andromeda which I will not disregard), and by.hero (in a Bo3 in which Hwasin lost 1-2). Following though Hwasin hasn't been doing too bad TvZ. Nada on the other hand was 8-2 in his last 10 TvZ at the time. However his last 2 games then were over a month before the all star battle (loss to Effort and win over Kwanro) and his last 2 games before that were almost 4 months before that. In addition, his most "impressive" wins were over Savior (3-0. 1 game on Byzantium (see above) and 1 on Destination (60% TvZ) and a game on Andromeda which I will not disregard). In addition, Nada's next TvZ AFTER the all star battle was a 1-2 loss to Falcon in this season's GOM, over a complete month after the all star battle meaning Nada hasn't played an official TvZ game within 1 month of the all star battle therefore it is not such a reliable piece of evidence. PS. I didn't bother watching the games so I won't talk about their content. I'll leave that to someone else to discuss. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
as expected. | ||
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