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[MSL] Avalon MSL Group Selection - Page 28

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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 17:23:55
June 04 2009 17:21 GMT
#541
On June 05 2009 01:58 FearDarkness wrote:
Effort, Stork, Skyhigh and Flash have easy groups


Flash? Okay, should be easy. But Canata, go.go, and even sAviOr are all still a bit dangerous, Canata seems to be totally in shape right now especially.

Stork? Yeah, that's easy. Assuming Stork doesn't facepalm.

sKyHigh has to deal with Calm and the unpredictable Zero. Sea shouldn't be a threat but he is good when on form. Not easy.

Effort? Sucks to be Effort. He is the class of the group right now, but Luxury's ZvZ is nothing to sneeze at, Hwasin's TvZ is legendary, and HiyA's mech style is quite effective too. Group A is stacked.

My summary:

Group A: Stacked, as noted above.
Group B: OMGWTFBBQDRAGONFEST STACKED. Except that Kal and free kind of aren't as good at PvP as the other two.
Group C: Stork vs young stars, with Shine along for the ride. Two Terrans says Stork goes through. Kwanro... could be even more of a problem than last time, although possibly Stork has learned how to play on Carthage.
Group D: Sea vs young stars - will he actually go through for once? (Smart money says no, between Calm and skyhigh's vT, with Zero for kicks and giggles.)
Group E: Tornado, Berserker, Magic - and the Tiger, whose hope here is beating Iris and UpMagic.
Group F: The group of death if you can only pick one. Jaedong, Leta, fantasy, and Movie. Basically, any group that runs about an even 50% chance or worse of Jaedong not advancing is ridiculous.
Group G: This group fails to interest me. Flash either failteenCCs into destruction or goes through playing with only one hand, and the other place is a crapshoot.
Group H: Somehow Much is the favorite here.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
June 04 2009 17:23 GMT
#542
Dragonwars will begin shouldahad backho. There he'd proly advance lol
I'd like that Rosh cheeze with some whine.////.... When you feel down and lost read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 04 2009 17:27 GMT
#543
What the fuck @ Group B. What's up with this 4 protoss shit.
God Bless
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 17:49:10
June 04 2009 17:48 GMT
#544
Group B: (P)JangBi, (P)Bisu, free, (P)Kal
What a group
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 04 2009 17:55 GMT
#545
On June 05 2009 02:21 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 01:58 FearDarkness wrote:
Effort, Stork, Skyhigh and Flash have easy groups



Effort? Sucks to be Effort. He is the class of the group right now, but Luxury's ZvZ is nothing to sneeze at, Hwasin's TvZ is legendary, and HiyA's mech style is quite effective too. Group A is stacked.
.


I wonder if people here even watch recent games.

Have you seen Luxury play lately? It's ugly... he forgot how to do ANY matchup especially ZvZ. He's been really terrible lately.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
June 04 2009 17:59 GMT
#546
sad i missed this. hopefully someone subs the vods.

i wish i knew korean
wraiths go pew pew
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 04 2009 18:05 GMT
#547
On June 05 2009 02:55 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 02:21 Musoeun wrote:
On June 05 2009 01:58 FearDarkness wrote:
Effort, Stork, Skyhigh and Flash have easy groups



Effort? Sucks to be Effort. He is the class of the group right now, but Luxury's ZvZ is nothing to sneeze at, Hwasin's TvZ is legendary, and HiyA's mech style is quite effective too. Group A is stacked.
.


I wonder if people here even watch recent games.

Have you seen Luxury play lately? It's ugly... he forgot how to do ANY matchup especially ZvZ. He's been really terrible lately.


Yes, I have. He sucked for all of Round 4, I admit. The OSL loss was bad - but he clearly wasn't prepared to deal with go.go's fantasy+turtle style builds. But go watch Violet vs Luxury - that wasn't Luxury playing bad, that was Violet beating out a Luxury playing maybe not at the top of his game, but very well. Luxury vs Saint? Okay, so Saint's ZvZ isn't good, but Luxury absolutely trashed him. As usual, I think we'll see the good Luxury show up now that starleague season is back in force.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
June 04 2009 18:06 GMT
#548
CJ Entus has 7 of its players in 8 of the possible groups.

CJ fans, get ready to see your team CRUMBLE in the Proleague.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 04 2009 18:26 GMT
#549
Shiiiiiiiit these groups are good.
Bisu v Jangbi
Jaedong v Movie
Horang2 v Upmagic
Zero v Skyhigh
etc etc etc

Almost every matchup is awesome.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 04 2009 18:36 GMT
#550
On June 05 2009 03:06 soudo wrote:
CJ Entus has 7 of its players in 8 of the possible groups.

CJ fans, get ready to see your team CRUMBLE in the Proleague.


This is CJ. Effort sAviOr Kwanro Devil skyhigh Iris Move Much jjonga nbs With the team all split up like this, they can just go, "Hmm, who's practicing for MSL and who can play this week?" What's going to be more problematic is the few who qualified for the OSL as well...
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
June 04 2009 18:37 GMT
#551
wtf why is group F always the group of death?
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
June 04 2009 18:56 GMT
#552
Time for some completely baseless predictions:

Group A: (T)HiyA and (Z)EffOrt

Group B: (P)JangBi and (P)Kal

Group C: (P)Stork and (Z)Kwanro

Group D: (T)Sea and (Z)Calm

Group E: (T)NaDa and (T)UpMaGiC

Group F: (T)Leta and (Z)Jaedong

Group G: (T)Flash and (T)go.go

Group H: (T)fOrGG and (P)Pure

Jaedong is going to win this MSL!
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 04 2009 18:57 GMT
#553
OMFJC

Group F is just insane
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 18:59:28
June 04 2009 18:57 GMT
#554
4 dragons in one group. at least they only have to practice 1 match up

movie and fantasy for group F!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 04 2009 19:02 GMT
#555
Someone should make a poll about this
Like what's the 2nd most dificult group (the first is pretty obvious), or which group sounds like the most intresting one
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
JitNik
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation134 Posts
June 04 2009 19:26 GMT
#556
SAVIOR, I BELIEVE
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
June 04 2009 19:32 GMT
#557
WOW WHUT?
GROUP B WHAT?
BISU FREE JANGBI KAL?

DRAGON TIME
cw)minsean(ru
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 04 2009 19:33 GMT
#558
MAAAA JAE YOOOOOOOOOON

He better have been practicing hard since he hasn't been on the bench the last few games.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
June 04 2009 19:41 GMT
#559
Jaedong's group is sick, it's built for the sole purpose of sniping Jaedong. The only thing it's lacking is (T)sKyHigh unfortunately
Nanoo
Profile Joined March 2009
229 Posts
June 04 2009 19:41 GMT
#560
Bisu and JangBi is slightly favourite in group B..since they can practice with the remaining dragons...
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