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[MSL] Avalon MSL Group Selection - Page 30

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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
June 05 2009 00:48 GMT
#581
On June 05 2009 08:02 tree.hugger wrote:
Mine -
A: (Z)Luxury, (T)Hwasin, (T)HiyA, (Z)EffOrt
EffOrt has been excellent of late, look for him, not only to advance but contend for the title. Final four is a possibility for him. As for the rest; Hwasin has excellent TvZ, and with Luxury playing the way he's been playing (I've seen evidence of improvement, but I'm not sold yet), I gotta give the always-solid Hwasin the advantage here. HiYa is a non-factor.

B: (P)JangBi, (P)Bisu, (P)free[gm], (P)Kal
The dragon group has two real, fire-breathing monsters and two whelps. Bisu advances, and so will JangBi. free has not looked like his old self of late, and Kal has been strong but inconsistent, and simply falls short here. Tough group.

C: (P)Stork, (T)Shine, (T)PianO, (Z)Kwanro
Stork should take this easy group with ease. The next spot figures to go to Kwanro, although PianO's weak-spot is protoss, (which nobody here should win anyway) and his results against Z and T have been solid enough to give him an outside chance.

D: (Z)ZerO, (T)sKyHigh, (T)Sea, (Z)Calm
This is a tough group to call, and a bit disappointing in terms of star-quality. sKyHigh should have no trouble advancing. Sea has quite a pedigree in this match-up lifetime, but he hasn't really beaten a legitimate zerg threat in some time. That leaves me doubting how long he'll stick around in this group, although I wouldn't rule out an upset. That leaves a ZvZ to decide it, and with both players sporting 50% win-rates, and neither player being named "Jaedong", I have no idea who will win the second spot. We'll say ZerO.

E: (T)NaDa, (T)Iris, (P)Horang2, (T)UpMaGiC
This is probably the toughest group to call, I could see all four of these players getting in. I'm going to go with Iris and UpMaGiC, because I don't trust Horang2's inexperience, especially against the experience and creativity of this group. And I just don't trust NaDa to be quite as good as the other two here.

F: (T)Leta, (T)fantasy, (Z)Jaedong, (P)Movie
This is bad news for Leta, because he is going to be the odd man out of the group of death. Leta is the game's most consistent litmus test, he never loses to players worse than him, and always loses to those who are better. Jaedong is pretty much 2portwraith-proof, and recently wrecked Leta in proleague action. Leta's best chance is to beat fantasy, but in a starleague, I'm going for fantasy's preparation and TvT skill. Oh, and if Movie advances from this group, I'll eat my computer.

G: (Z)sAviOr, (T)Canata, (T)Flash, (T)go.go
The thought of anyone in this group not named "Flash" advancing makes me angry, especially when Leta or fantasy, Kal or free or JangBi, all are on the chopping block. But what can you do? I gotta like Canata on pure skill, I could see sAviOr, but not really, and go.go advances over my dead body. I see Canata grabbing this gift spot in the next round.

H: (T)fOrGG, (P)Much, (T)firebathero, (P)Pure
Another clunker of a group, with two slumping Terran, and two Protoss who are both playing well. Give me the toss.



Group H it seems someone forgot what happened to Much at ClubDay MSL.
Firebathero is still the best!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 05 2009 00:58 GMT
#582
On June 05 2009 09:48 Sprite wrote:
Group H it seems someone forgot what happened to Much at ClubDay MSL.


No one gives a shit about what happened to him at ClubDay. They all remember Much destroying FBH with pylon hearts.
God Bless
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
June 05 2009 01:05 GMT
#583
On June 05 2009 09:14 3 Lions wrote:
Savior or Nada for 4th MSL please?

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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 05 2009 01:22 GMT
#584
Savior should make it through actually.
hes not the greatest but im sure he can take canata.
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 01:23:58
June 05 2009 01:22 GMT
#585
nvm someone already said the exact same thing
NO MY LIQUIBET
Profile Joined May 2009
United States294 Posts
June 05 2009 01:23 GMT
#586
Hoping that Stork wins it all, even though I know he will only disappoint me again. He does this every season, it's like domestic violence. He hurts me, and then says he'll change and get better, actually stay in form this time. Like a fool, I believe him and go back to him. The neighbors, they see the embarassing losses and ask me if I need help. "No," I say, "it's nothing... I just ran into a slump..." but they see my tears and they know. They know,
NO MY LIQUIBET
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 05 2009 01:38 GMT
#587
On June 05 2009 10:23 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:
Hoping that Stork wins it all, even though I know he will only disappoint me again. He does this every season, it's like domestic violence. He hurts me, and then says he'll change and get better, actually stay in form this time. Like a fool, I believe him and go back to him. The neighbors, they see the embarassing losses and ask me if I need help. "No," I say, "it's nothing... I just ran into a slump..." but they see my tears and they know. They know,

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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
June 05 2009 02:49 GMT
#588
On June 05 2009 09:58 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 09:48 Sprite wrote:
Group H it seems someone forgot what happened to Much at ClubDay MSL.


No one gives a shit about what happened to him at ClubDay. They all remember Much destroying FBH with pylon hearts.


very true, but someone has to have faith in fbh's TvP even though its very bad sometimes.
Firebathero is still the best!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 05 2009 03:03 GMT
#589
On June 05 2009 10:22 Mykill wrote:
Savior should make it through actually.
hes not the greatest but im sure he can take canata.


Unfortunately, he has to deal with go.go and Flash as well, and Canata's been improving rapidly lately.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
June 05 2009 03:03 GMT
#590
On June 05 2009 11:49 Sprite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 09:58 Roffles wrote:
On June 05 2009 09:48 Sprite wrote:
Group H it seems someone forgot what happened to Much at ClubDay MSL.


No one gives a shit about what happened to him at ClubDay. They all remember Much destroying FBH with pylon hearts.


very true, but someone has to have faith in fbh's TvP even though its very bad sometimes.

Entusman #12
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 05 2009 03:36 GMT
#591
Uhm, uhh, is there any vods for this? I'd be happy even if I see the entrances.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 05 2009 03:36 GMT
#592
anyway to put this in the vod tracker... plzzzzzzzzzzz
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 03:57:22
June 05 2009 03:51 GMT
#593
Stork is on a 6 game winning streak, winning 7 of his last 10 versus Z. His bad PvZ is a thing of the past, he will crush that group with ease. Last MSL/OSL he ran into Jaedong (won the first, failed cheese and then a game on Tears) and Jangbi (voodoo) after getting far in both. He's going to be a force come the quarters/semis of the starleagues as usual and I'd be surprised if he doesn't have at least one finals appearance, another gold for Storky .
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7827 Posts
June 05 2009 03:59 GMT
#594
I'm expecting Shine to advance in his group :D
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 05 2009 04:30 GMT
#595
Stork seems to have a pattern of doing good in the individual leagues and not as good in the proleague for the last few seasons. Though this season it seems that he's getting on track for both.
Jaedong
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
June 05 2009 05:37 GMT
#596
It's been a long time since every group looks decent to me. There's usually a few groups that are boring but I think this time they all look interesting.
twitter: @terrancem
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
June 05 2009 05:44 GMT
#597
On June 05 2009 14:37 GogoKodo wrote:
It's been a long time since every group looks decent to me. There's usually a few groups that are boring but I think this time they all look interesting.

Lol if only they didn't change the All-Terran group
POGGERS
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 06:25:00
June 05 2009 06:22 GMT
#598
Duuuuuuuuuuude you guys are all overlooking that we have FUCKING (Z)sAviOr in the MSL. (Z)sAviOr the mother-fucking 5-time MSL finalist. This is his home fucktown. He's going to fuck Avalon right up the ass

(Z)sAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaviOrrrrrrrrrrr fighting

konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
June 05 2009 06:26 GMT
#599
On June 05 2009 15:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Duuuuuuuuuuude you guys are all overlooking that we have FUCKING (Z)sAviOr in the MSL. (Z)sAviOr the mother-fucking 5-time MSL finalist. This is his home fucktown. He's going to fuck Avalon right up the ass

(Z)sAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaviOrrrrrrrrrrr fighting


Savior is going to auto-win, that's why
POGGERS
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 06:30:44
June 05 2009 06:28 GMT
#600
(Z)sAviOr's road to his fourth MSL

Group
(Z)sAviOr 1-0 (T)Canata
(Z)sAviOr 1-0 (T)Flash

Ro16
(Z)sAviOr 2-0 (T)fantasy

Ro8
(Z)sAviOr 3-0 (P)Bisu

Ro4
(Z)sAviOr 3-0 (Z)Jaedong

Final
(Z)sAviOr 3-2 (T)NaDa

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